Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

subcontracting labor?


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-31-2009, 03:19 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 8
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default subcontracting labor?

Is it even possible? I need a little extra help tomorow and maybe 2 days per month. Can I subcontract labor in California? if so whats the proper way to do this?
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-31-2009, 10:13 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Yes it is very possible. But first you need to understand the difference in an employee and a subcontractor/ self employed person.

With an employee, you are paying them hourly, paying taxes on them, supplying his tools, and giving them direction on how to complete a job.

With an independent contractor, you can pay them by the hour, or by the job, but you are not paying taxes on them, they are supplying their own tools, and you can tell them the job you want done, but you cant tell them the direction they need to take to complete the job.

Also, they should have their own business lic. and proper insurance otherwise they are a liability on your part.

Here is some info from E.D.D to help you out.
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_indep...contractor.htm
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-2009, 11:30 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 8
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

So I could not allow a sub contractor to use my equipment to get a job done? That stinks.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-01-2009, 07:37 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,283
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Would getting staff from a local temp agency help?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-01-2009, 08:39 AM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 8
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

Well here is the story. I have one person who starting today I am giving more work. Normally I maybe work him for 3 hours a month, I pay him in cash and we are both happy. Now I will be working him at least every other week. I have my EIN and yesterday my license was approved and given to me but I do NOT have workman's comp so I was hoping to call him a sub rather than an employee but it doesn't look like I can. I pick him up and drop him off, he uses my equipment and works under my orders so clearly he dose not fall under the sub category. Today I am putting him in charge of an entire job. I am going to sit around the site and make sure everything gets done rite and be able to answer questions if necessary but this is basically training to take over the job. My dream is starting to come true where I can just pay someone to do the work and enjoy the checks coming in. It looks like however I will have to go get the comp insurance and just do everything properly.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:00 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,283
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
It looks like however I will have to go get the comp insurance and just do everything properly.
Keep us posted on how all this is going because I am sure there are others out there in the same boat who are unsure of what to do in this kind of situation.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:57 AM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 8
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

I will. I may have to just hold everything off though. I have to find out about the insurance first but I am not sure I can afford it and wages at this time. I can afford one or the other but without both I am taking to big of a risk.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-02-2009, 07:00 PM
breslinnet breslinnet is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 6
breslinnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Read the thread earlier and just thought about this. If the individual using your equiptment is doing so under some sort of rental or lease agreement then that should satisfy that issue...right??

You would just have that figured in as a part of the equation. For that matter**if you are going to pursue the labor as subcontract and the individuals do not have their own insurance**you might find a blanket liability policy and again charge the sub via agreement for a portion of the premium on a per job worked basis.

Dont know how that works in your state but certainly the avenue of approach I will review when time comes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Temporary Labor StartALawnCareBusiness Starting a lawn care business. 6 09-26-2009 05:22 AM
Subcontracting boomingbiz Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 1 03-19-2009 05:08 AM
Labor Pay Saddlewood Lawn Care Employees Discussions 15 02-23-2009 08:39 AM
Labor spreadsheet grounded General Business Discussions 0 08-19-2007 07:48 AM
Labor Hours Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 3 12-19-2006 12:54 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Small HOA Bid
lxarth
Today 10:37 PM
Today 10:37 PM
by lxarth
0 12
What a JERK!
Chilehead
Today 08:13 AM
Today 08:48 PM
by Chilehead
2 68
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
Today 07:15 PM
by TheYardGuy
12 672
I have ZERO confidence...
Just for Cuts
05-01-2015 04:24 PM
Today 04:30 PM
by Just for Cuts
22 468
Mower Advice
tl757
Today 02:31 PM
Today 04:24 PM
by Just for Cuts
1 44
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
Today 03:57 PM
by jrs.landscaping
78 3,208
Big (to me) mulch job
tl757
04-23-2015 05:32 PM
Today 02:10 PM
by tl757
17 814
Anyone need help? I have...
biglee
Today 12:22 PM
Today 12:22 PM
by biglee
0 40
Home today...Still...
biglee
Today 11:59 AM
Today 11:59 AM
by biglee
0 32
color fliers?
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:32 PM
Today 11:40 AM
by biglee
15 601
Hello
SallyBorowicz
Today 11:14 AM
Today 11:14 AM
by SallyBorowicz
0 26
Looking good
mrsmichigan
Today 09:47 AM
Today 09:47 AM
by mrsmichigan
0 25
What are your biggest...
Steve
Yesterday 01:24 PM
Yesterday 09:54 PM
by Chilehead
1 67
Go daddy web site and...
jcurr33
05-04-2015 06:00 PM
Yesterday 11:57 AM
by Steve
2 87
How busy are you now?
Steve
05-04-2015 01:10 PM
Yesterday 11:47 AM
by Steve
4 117
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
Yesterday 11:45 AM
by Steve
35 1,391
mowfinder
scaypa
04-27-2015 05:44 PM
05-04-2015 01:14 PM
by Steve
1 165
Latest video, Facebook...
Sprinkler Buddy
05-01-2015 06:54 AM
05-04-2015 01:09 PM
by Steve
3 143
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
05-04-2015 01:03 PM
by Steve
72 5,860
weed
avetslawncare
04-16-2015 07:56 PM
05-01-2015 11:38 AM
by Steve
8 497
so i need somehelp with...
dalvan0
04-28-2015 07:43 PM
04-30-2015 10:55 PM
by avetslawncare
3 376
Anyone have a Lawn Care...
nishirandall
04-28-2015 08:45 PM
04-30-2015 12:00 AM
by Steve
1 182
mowing pic
joshlawncare
04-25-2015 12:34 PM
04-29-2015 10:55 PM
by Steve
5 285
Help with a truck
bdodson89
04-27-2015 08:15 PM
04-29-2015 10:47 PM
by Steve
4 219
Ford F250 Wheel loaders...
jrs.landscaping
04-28-2015 05:34 AM
04-29-2015 07:47 AM
by jrs.landscaping
2 171
New company in Michigan
SEM
04-24-2015 09:27 PM
04-28-2015 11:56 AM
by Steve
6 249
Correct me if I'm wrong...
SGL1
04-26-2015 02:41 PM
04-28-2015 06:57 AM
by SGL1
12 304
Total yard rehab
SGL1
04-23-2015 03:59 PM
04-27-2015 06:57 PM
by SGL1
11 395
equipment marketplace?
jrs.landscaping
04-27-2015 04:49 PM
04-27-2015 06:09 PM
by jrs.landscaping
2 160
Buying contracts /...
greenscaper123
04-26-2015 04:46 PM
04-27-2015 05:59 PM
by Steve
2 196
Lawn Care Service in...
Friscobob
04-24-2015 03:33 PM
04-27-2015 05:44 PM
by Steve
4 272
what's the big deal...
Tony317
04-25-2015 02:19 PM
04-27-2015 05:43 PM
by Steve
3 209
Newb Question - Multiple...
DependiLawn
04-24-2015 11:36 PM
04-27-2015 05:36 PM
by Steve
1 201
maintandlawndispatch...
SGL1
04-21-2015 03:31 PM
04-24-2015 04:42 PM
by Steve
9 355
Thoughts on Undocumented...
element009
09-25-2011 11:08 AM
04-23-2015 09:32 PM
by Chilehead
56 15,775
Hello Everyone
DesignsByBnC
04-22-2015 04:07 PM
04-23-2015 02:19 PM
by DesignsByBnC
2 228
The upcoming rainy...
5StarLawnscaping
04-21-2015 01:22 PM
04-23-2015 12:54 PM
by Steve
7 322
WARNING! Especially to...
SC93
04-19-2015 12:05 PM
04-22-2015 01:39 PM
by Steve
14 643
Could be great news for...
SC93
04-14-2015 11:06 PM
04-22-2015 01:28 PM
by Steve
15 684
quick pic
joshlawncare
04-14-2015 07:49 PM
04-21-2015 05:01 PM
by joshlawncare
4 474
Got Inspected today
swstout
08-09-2010 10:31 PM
04-21-2015 03:53 PM
by SGL1
10 4,157
Smoked my first belt!
SGL1
04-20-2015 08:46 PM
04-21-2015 03:28 PM
by SGL1
4 293
lawn care business...
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:56 PM
04-21-2015 06:18 AM
by holymoly
3 391
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
04-20-2015 10:02 PM
by SGL1
4 626
Poll & Discussion...
CHEESE2009
09-16-2011 06:16 PM
04-20-2015 08:20 PM
by avetslawncare
27 5,828
Aerating / Dethaching...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-12-2015 07:53 PM
04-19-2015 08:49 PM
by Chilehead
17 844
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
04-19-2015 09:21 AM
by KJ90
8 1,169
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
04-19-2015 05:26 AM
by RSE
22 1,231
Hustler Raptor
SGL1
04-13-2015 09:27 PM
04-18-2015 07:53 AM
by SGL1
15 666
Am I missing something...
googus
04-11-2015 06:33 PM
04-17-2015 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
10 717
» Popular Tags
aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter bob villa bush commercial deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems estimate foreman free advertising google growing a lawn care business hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn mowing managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets more customers business mulch new business new mower ordinance patio install per hour service pricing profit on employee pto scag v-ride scripts secrets to landscaping sell the vision shell shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns theft toro toro grand stand tractor auger trailer mate pro truck new used landscape up sell employee web design website website design winterization won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy