Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

subcontracting labor?


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-31-2009, 03:19 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 7
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default subcontracting labor?

Is it even possible? I need a little extra help tomorow and maybe 2 days per month. Can I subcontract labor in California? if so whats the proper way to do this?
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-31-2009, 10:13 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Yes it is very possible. But first you need to understand the difference in an employee and a subcontractor/ self employed person.

With an employee, you are paying them hourly, paying taxes on them, supplying his tools, and giving them direction on how to complete a job.

With an independent contractor, you can pay them by the hour, or by the job, but you are not paying taxes on them, they are supplying their own tools, and you can tell them the job you want done, but you cant tell them the direction they need to take to complete the job.

Also, they should have their own business lic. and proper insurance otherwise they are a liability on your part.

Here is some info from E.D.D to help you out.
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_indep...contractor.htm
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-2009, 11:30 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 7
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

So I could not allow a sub contractor to use my equipment to get a job done? That stinks.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-01-2009, 07:37 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,519
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Would getting staff from a local temp agency help?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-01-2009, 08:39 AM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 7
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

Well here is the story. I have one person who starting today I am giving more work. Normally I maybe work him for 3 hours a month, I pay him in cash and we are both happy. Now I will be working him at least every other week. I have my EIN and yesterday my license was approved and given to me but I do NOT have workman's comp so I was hoping to call him a sub rather than an employee but it doesn't look like I can. I pick him up and drop him off, he uses my equipment and works under my orders so clearly he dose not fall under the sub category. Today I am putting him in charge of an entire job. I am going to sit around the site and make sure everything gets done rite and be able to answer questions if necessary but this is basically training to take over the job. My dream is starting to come true where I can just pay someone to do the work and enjoy the checks coming in. It looks like however I will have to go get the comp insurance and just do everything properly.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:00 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,519
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
It looks like however I will have to go get the comp insurance and just do everything properly.
Keep us posted on how all this is going because I am sure there are others out there in the same boat who are unsure of what to do in this kind of situation.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:57 AM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 7
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

I will. I may have to just hold everything off though. I have to find out about the insurance first but I am not sure I can afford it and wages at this time. I can afford one or the other but without both I am taking to big of a risk.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-02-2009, 07:00 PM
breslinnet breslinnet is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 6
breslinnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Read the thread earlier and just thought about this. If the individual using your equiptment is doing so under some sort of rental or lease agreement then that should satisfy that issue...right??

You would just have that figured in as a part of the equation. For that matter**if you are going to pursue the labor as subcontract and the individuals do not have their own insurance**you might find a blanket liability policy and again charge the sub via agreement for a portion of the premium on a per job worked basis.

Dont know how that works in your state but certainly the avenue of approach I will review when time comes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Temporary Labor StartALawnCareBusiness Starting a lawn care business. 6 09-26-2009 05:22 AM
Subcontracting boomingbiz Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 1 03-19-2009 05:08 AM
Labor Pay Saddlewood Lawn Care Employees Discussions 15 02-23-2009 08:39 AM
Labor spreadsheet grounded General Business Discussions 0 08-19-2007 07:48 AM
Labor Hours Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 3 12-19-2006 12:54 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 01:23 PM
Yesterday 08:06 PM
by Matther777
7 285
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 04:14 PM
Yesterday 08:02 PM
by Matther777
4 168
Business Cards
crieg122
Yesterday 12:03 PM
Yesterday 07:55 PM
by Matther777
2 78
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 09:19 PM
Yesterday 12:09 PM
by biglee
10 354
Leaf Box & Loader Set...
ringahding1
10-21-2014 06:20 AM
Yesterday 11:46 AM
by crieg122
6 354
Gie-review / What's new...
ExtremeLawncareServices
Yesterday 09:19 AM
Yesterday 09:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
0 63
Dealing With Gas Can...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 01:41 PM
Yesterday 08:37 AM
by Dan Tanner
10 410
My Newest Toy (B.P....
Dan Tanner
10-23-2014 05:50 PM
Yesterday 05:06 AM
by Dan Tanner
2 191
hey everyone
robert8509
10-22-2014 08:16 PM
10-24-2014 11:07 PM
by robert8509
7 275
new to the forum
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 02:52 PM
10-24-2014 02:52 PM
by madmedic8575
0 100
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
10-24-2014 01:00 PM
by Steve
11 951
12 Years in Business!
Chilehead
10-23-2014 08:07 AM
10-23-2014 11:08 PM
by Chilehead
2 194
Cheapskate Landlord...
Mr. Mow
10-20-2014 06:33 AM
10-23-2014 05:55 PM
by biglee
13 508
Hi from SoCal
Jmoney
10-23-2014 11:29 AM
10-23-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
1 162
Workmans compensation...
CDLAWNCARE
10-15-2014 08:05 AM
10-23-2014 12:33 PM
by Steve
5 619
Pda
stevef1201
10-18-2014 02:05 PM
10-23-2014 06:12 AM
by ringahding1
4 442
Hello, from TEXAS
sanchez5
10-17-2014 09:56 PM
10-22-2014 01:27 PM
by Steve
6 514
Organic Lawn Care...
NHray
10-17-2014 06:05 PM
10-22-2014 01:23 PM
by Steve
3 487
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 01:59 PM
10-22-2014 01:19 PM
by Steve
1 260
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
10-22-2014 08:51 AM
by ringahding1
12 1,629
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
10-22-2014 07:47 AM
by ringahding1
4 1,463
What parts do you carry...
Just for Cuts
10-17-2014 09:08 AM
10-21-2014 01:36 PM
by Mr. Mow
16 765
Jungle to Beautiful
stevef1201
10-17-2014 09:54 AM
10-21-2014 01:26 PM
by stevef1201
11 617
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
10-21-2014 01:19 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
158 11,570
Sunny Beach Tennis...
SGL1
10-19-2014 11:24 PM
10-21-2014 01:04 PM
by SGL1
4 363
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
10-20-2014 08:34 PM
by biglee
10 1,936
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
09-30-2014 10:06 AM
10-20-2014 05:42 PM
by SGL1
7 1,423
how to fi d commercial...
mchampion319
10-19-2014 09:50 PM
10-20-2014 04:41 PM
by Steve
1 329
Hello From Tennessee
mrmann901
10-17-2014 10:02 PM
10-20-2014 04:24 PM
by Steve
1 395
questions on order to...
jack2048
10-13-2014 11:15 AM
10-20-2014 03:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 854
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
10-20-2014 02:14 PM
by Steve
14 2,325
Cement mixer
KevinsLawns
10-15-2014 08:03 PM
10-20-2014 02:11 PM
by Steve
7 591
Hello ! New guy Rob here
RWorthley1
10-17-2014 04:05 PM
10-20-2014 02:09 PM
by Steve
1 434
Snow Blowing
gwilson98
10-12-2014 02:21 PM
10-17-2014 02:51 PM
by Steve
6 771
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
10-17-2014 07:49 AM
by SGL1
6 1,077
Grasswhoopins.com Anyone...
GRASS WHOOPINS
06-21-2011 11:38 PM
10-16-2014 01:30 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
42 9,459
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 10:04 PM
10-15-2014 09:12 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 792
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
10-15-2014 06:43 PM
by NHray
1,190 340,501
Do you find weed eating...
chuck2s
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
by chuck2s
0 519
Incorporating &...
WesleySnips
10-01-2014 09:39 PM
10-15-2014 01:37 PM
by kslawn
20 1,620
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
10-15-2014 05:57 AM
by ringahding1
8 1,622
Apartment Complex and...
lxarth
06-22-2011 01:10 PM
10-14-2014 06:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
42 9,731
I LOVE hedge trimming
stevef1201
10-13-2014 09:05 AM
10-14-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
5 647
Help with seeder...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-09-2014 07:39 AM
10-13-2014 08:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
5 807
The Market watch
WesleySnips
10-12-2014 08:47 PM
10-13-2014 05:40 PM
by SGL1
3 653
Help pricing a large...
Bradcook21
10-07-2014 06:49 AM
10-13-2014 02:00 PM
by Steve
7 1,003
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 04:24 PM
10-13-2014 06:46 AM
by Billy Goat
19 1,657
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
04-23-2014 07:23 PM
10-12-2014 10:53 PM
by SGL1
2 969
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
10-12-2014 06:20 PM
by kslawn
25 1,788
Credit card contract
SGL1
10-06-2014 05:31 PM
10-12-2014 03:40 PM
by SGL1
18 1,194
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment bid auger billy goat brushcutter bush care charge deliquentaccounts equipment rental exmark ferris foreman four wheel drive fundraiser gopherhaul grass gravely hills holiday how much to charge how to bid husqvarna john deere quik trac kawasaki labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lighting lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mowing mr dave mulch mulch estimate new buisness ordinance podcast property management company pto push versus ride redmax scag scripts seo shreaded small engine repair sprayer starting a business starting a lawn care business stihl sulky theft top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walk behind walker wood
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy