Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Retaining wall - I need help with it, I recorded video of it


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Fresh Cut's Avatar
Fresh Cut Fresh Cut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 235
Rep Power: 6
Fresh Cut is on a distinguished road
Default Retaining wall - I need help with it, I recorded video of it

Check out the video I recorded of the wall. It's not long but it gives a better idea of the dimensions of the wall in order to get an accurate assessment of what I need to get this job done.

The wall is made of railroad ties and the owner wants it redone with castle stone.

It's 3'8" where it begins at the house and 3'6" at the corner bend in the middle.

These dimensions need to change to 4'6" at the house and at the corner bend and then follow the slope of the hill a little better than the currently rotted railroad ties.

It's currently 19' in length from the house to the end of the bottom railroad tie. The owner wants it extended to 22'.



Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 07-15-2009, 05:46 AM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Is "castle stone" a brand or a type? Show me what you consider castle stone (everyone calls everything something different in different areas).

I usually find out how much the stone is per piece, for example the split and stack Unilock costs somewhere around $2.50 per stone, so I charge $6 per stone installed. The first row takes the longest and you wouldn't make much doing one or two rows like that but the second, third and nth rows go up quick, you just have to make sure you are level and tilted back slightly.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-25-2009, 12:23 AM
Fresh Cut's Avatar
Fresh Cut Fresh Cut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 235
Rep Power: 6
Fresh Cut is on a distinguished road
Default

bump for feedback
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-25-2009, 11:29 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

There are a couple of other posts on here that might help.

Recent project pics. Retaining wall/landscape job

Hardscape/Landscape

Hardscape

Going Wall Install Rate

If anyone else has any insight to offer, please do.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-25-2009, 02:22 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

OK, bare with me as we do a lot of these, do you want to know how to do it from start to finish?

First question is that pavement as I can't tell from the video.

If they want from the house to the bend longer, do they want to maintain the same angle?

Do you have any experience or the tools to cut brick?

You are going to need a back hoe or mini, do you have access to one either own or rent?

Do you have a trailer that will haul about 2 yards of 3/4" clear stone?

Do you have a compactor or ability to rent one?
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-26-2009, 02:01 AM
Fresh Cut's Avatar
Fresh Cut Fresh Cut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 235
Rep Power: 6
Fresh Cut is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
OK, bare with me as we do a lot of these, do you want to know how to do it from start to finish?

First question is that pavement as I can't tell from the video.

If they want from the house to the bend longer, do they want to maintain the same angle?

Do you have any experience or the tools to cut brick?

You are going to need a back hoe or mini, do you have access to one either own or rent?

Do you have a trailer that will haul about 2 yards of 3/4" clear stone?

Do you have a compactor or ability to rent one?
1. Not pavement, concrete driveway.

2. Don't want from the house to the bend longer, wanna keep the same angle. Wants to extend the wall from the bend to the end longer.

3. No experience, no tools to cut brick.

4. I would have to rent one, after you tell me exactly what it is. I think I have an idea, maybe we call it something different here.

5. Yes, I have a trailer. Tandem axle 16'.... haven't used it all season.

6. I would have to rent the compactor as well.

Since we are talking about renting some stuff, what am I looking at for the job, price-wise. Will it be worth taking the job? This customer is adamant about getting this done and he pays well. Yet, he is still a new customer and I don't wanna mess that up by not doing a good job on the wall.

I got an older guy that's been doing landscaping and lawn service for 30 years, we're gonna ride up to the house tomorrow so he can eyeball it. Hopefully he can help me do the job.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-26-2009, 04:50 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Castle Stone of all the walls is the most difficult and time consuming and I will be straight up, if it were my first brick wall, I would either pass or sub contract it to a company that builds walls, we turned one down in May that had a few angles as it was beyond our equipment and skill level, in fact some 20 walls later I still would pass on Castle Stone.

The process is to remove the current wall, dig back 16" and down below grade level 30 inches, lay down 18" of 3/4 clear and compact, put 2" of crusher dust on top and compact, basically 3/4 of your tallest stone should be below grade on the first course. As you build the wall you need to put clear stone behind the wall and compact also, this allows for drainage and will stop the wall from moving.

The issue is that angle, there are two options however since he has a concrete driveway, you are limited to keeping the angle the same, anyhow a curve is a lot earier to build than a direct angle, you will need to rent a 15" saw capable of cutting the stone at the desired angle, remember for example if that is a 30 dengree angle, the angle cut in the brick on each side will be 15 degrees.

I have no idea what costs are for rental and supplies however I can give you a very rough idea how long it would take us with the equipment we have to do this.

Remove old wall - 4 hours, I am assuming it's nailed with 12"+ spikes
Trucking - Around here no one will take old railway ties due to the chemicals
Remove earth - 1 hour
3/4" Clear Stone - 3 yards
Crusher Dust - 1 Yard
Build wall itself - 3 Guys - 46 hours
Industrial landscape fabric - goes between the wall and the crusher dust and the rock behind - 1 roll

We have three Stone manufacturers here in Halifax, you can go to their locations and play around with a stone you are about to use, see if they allow you to there, on the ground start building a wall lets say three feet long and two feet high. you will see what I mean when it comes to working with this stone, also ask them about cutting the stone, two places here will cut it for me, we can only cut up to 8", Castle stone can be as high as 12"

Andy
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia

Last edited by picframer; 07-26-2009 at 04:54 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-17-2009, 12:25 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

How did all this work out?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Fresh Cut's Avatar
Fresh Cut Fresh Cut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 235
Rep Power: 6
Fresh Cut is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm not sure I told you guys the correct name. I said Castle stone because that's what the customer initially called it, he said he wanted castle stone.

This is what he chose from the pics that I emailed him.


Anchor Windsor Stone
color = buff blend

I'm typing up the estimate now...

What's the ballpark for a job like this? I got around $1,700 so far.

That sound about right?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-30-2009, 05:31 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh Cut View Post
What's the ballpark for a job like this? I got around $1,700 so far.

That sound about right?
What does the $1,700 include?
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Timber log retaining walls Steve Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes 5 07-30-2010 10:10 PM
Recent project pics. Retaining wall/landscape job musician/lawnman Show Off - Picture Post - Photo Gallery 8 05-24-2009 07:10 PM
Retaining wall installation Steve Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes 9 01-08-2007 10:05 PM
How to promote Retaining walls? MJK General Business Discussions 3 10-03-2006 09:00 AM
Off the Wall Idea tiedeman General Business Discussions 18 04-04-2006 07:59 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
New Trailer
bobwill2009
Today 12:46 PM
Today 12:46 PM
by bobwill2009
0 9
Advertising On...
JacobsLawnMowing
03-17-2014 03:21 PM
Today 12:40 PM
by Steve
12 822
Any greenhouse operators...
GoGreenerKS
04-15-2014 11:21 AM
Today 12:37 PM
by Steve
7 205
Pushy customers
christopherhicks82
Yesterday 08:22 PM
Today 12:34 PM
by Steve
4 103
Pond...
xandrew245x
Yesterday 03:29 PM
Today 12:30 PM
by Steve
3 76
2.5 acre mowing
xandrew245x
04-18-2014 06:55 AM
Today 12:26 PM
by Steve
14 310
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 12:01 AM
Today 12:17 PM
by bobwill2009
79 25,263
The $20 Mow Job
Dan Tanner
04-21-2014 07:24 PM
Today 12:06 PM
by Steve
5 172
In a bit situation need...
googus
Yesterday 08:01 AM
Today 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 128
quickbooks users
CDLAWNCARE
04-20-2014 09:03 AM
Today 06:48 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
4 163
Looking for advice on a...
Tekeda1
04-13-2014 09:53 AM
Yesterday 07:55 PM
by Just for Cuts
23 573
About D@## Time!
TamMik
04-02-2014 08:10 AM
Yesterday 05:14 PM
by BelleCityLawn1
19 854
Back for this year
xandrew245x
02-21-2014 04:30 PM
Yesterday 03:36 PM
by xandrew245x
19 998
What Was Your Setup When...
superrman77
02-11-2014 10:53 AM
Yesterday 12:29 AM
by Tony317
22 1,697
Sulky and Turf Tracer
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:44 PM
Yesterday 12:07 AM
by Tony317
9 435
danny 2
danny2
04-19-2014 10:19 PM
04-21-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
3 135
this mower is driving me...
boog
04-17-2014 12:07 PM
04-21-2014 12:10 PM
by kslawn
13 337
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
04-21-2014 12:02 PM
by kslawn
20 568
I Got Taken...,
Dan Tanner
04-19-2014 06:26 AM
04-21-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
4 220
new to this forum!
mower13126
04-18-2014 07:37 PM
04-21-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
4 146
REO calling
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 05:03 PM
04-21-2014 11:33 AM
by Steve
12 341
employee pay
4 seasons maintenance
04-10-2011 09:34 PM
04-20-2014 04:40 PM
by Dan Tanner
20 6,869
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
04-20-2014 11:13 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 1,200
Lawn Renovation
stevef1201
04-11-2014 12:00 PM
04-20-2014 11:11 AM
by kslawn
10 360
Customers droping like...
goodtimez
04-18-2014 09:53 AM
04-19-2014 08:09 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
7 224
Best Bulk Mulch delivery...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:52 AM
04-18-2014 05:34 PM
by Steve
2 99
Steve Virgadamo,...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:49 AM
04-18-2014 05:08 PM
by Steve
2 81
Instagram
Gerardo_Landscape
04-16-2014 11:28 AM
04-18-2014 04:51 PM
by Steve
3 171
Help with weed liability!
Prolawnofchatt
04-15-2014 09:10 AM
04-18-2014 04:47 PM
by Steve
5 236
Nationwide lawn care...
Billy Goat
04-15-2014 05:21 PM
04-18-2014 04:39 PM
by Steve
9 252
Truck Signage
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 11:00 PM
04-18-2014 04:04 PM
by stevef1201
10 277
leaf removal
tlf59263
04-15-2014 10:00 PM
04-18-2014 03:59 PM
by stevef1201
6 230
Pay per click advertising
roostertail
02-12-2014 07:26 PM
04-17-2014 07:11 PM
by yardrate
10 633
Accepting credit cards,...
Darksteel
03-17-2014 08:01 PM
04-16-2014 01:02 PM
by jymie
15 792
Trimec
acrajchel
04-15-2014 08:24 PM
04-16-2014 11:10 AM
by Steve
3 143
Gopher Forum Discount!
BlackRain75
04-12-2014 10:44 PM
04-16-2014 10:50 AM
by Steve
9 338
hello
NFrailey
04-15-2014 01:39 PM
04-16-2014 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 127
Pricing a Mulch Job
dmcalpi
04-07-2014 02:16 PM
04-16-2014 09:40 AM
by jymie
21 769
google earth
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 03:24 PM
04-16-2014 09:36 AM
by jymie
8 285
There has to be an...
CDLAWNCARE
04-14-2014 12:59 PM
04-15-2014 04:06 PM
by Dan Tanner
6 229
First Day Back!
BelleCityLawn1
04-09-2014 09:13 PM
04-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
11 366
Mow America
stevegredler
04-13-2014 01:02 PM
04-14-2014 09:53 PM
by kslawn
5 271
Power Broom
acrajchel
04-14-2014 07:46 AM
04-14-2014 12:47 PM
by CDLAWNCARE
2 151
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
04-14-2014 11:34 AM
by Steve
1,176 286,576
Equipment reviews
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 07:17 AM
04-14-2014 11:27 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
13 523
Aerating Prices?
Dan Tanner
04-08-2014 03:16 PM
04-14-2014 10:31 AM
by Steve
13 525
Estimating help
acrajchel
04-11-2014 06:06 PM
04-14-2014 10:20 AM
by Steve
3 230
Need help bidding church...
GreenRidge Lawn&Landscape
04-07-2014 08:01 PM
04-14-2014 09:49 AM
by Steve
12 493
Hello all
Griff20114
04-12-2014 05:08 PM
04-14-2014 09:46 AM
by Steve
1 146
Step by Step Spring Lawn...
WarriorLawnscaping
04-10-2014 07:01 AM
04-14-2014 09:43 AM
by Steve
5 310
» Popular Tags
34'' advertisement bid birdscaping buy charge christmas christmas light service client collections subcontractor credit card processing customers ecosymbiosis exmark ferris first truck flower bed for sale georgia gopherhaul grass clarksville gravely holiday holiday decorating honda how much to charge how to bid invoice kawasaki late lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business show lawn service leaf cleanup leaf removal lesco lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mowing mulch mulch estimate native plants new buisness new business online classifieds organize payday podcast promotion redmax rotating savannah scag season seo social media sprayer starting a business start up lawn care business stihl taxes theft of services tips truck unreasonable walker winter winter services zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:49 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:49 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy