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07-12-2009, 08:51 PM
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What do you think of using the organic products as a supliment to the traditional products?
I'm getting interested in the Aerify product but not sure of the others.
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07-12-2009, 08:58 PM
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Can you give us a general idea of what type of schedule these should be on as far as what time in the year is optimum for each application.
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Matures magic and be applied at any time. I add aerify for the soil compaction. Dethatch as needed. A 4 to 5 week schedule for Mature's Magic and Aerify is about right. 2 weeks for poor turf if you want. As long as they are watered in well and the lawn gets proper watering the results are astounding.
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07-12-2009, 09:03 PM
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This will most likely differ from north to south as the lawn types and timing of applications will differ due to the climate zone differences. Steve is in the Carolinas and we are in the cold, cold north.
Steve, if you have any advice on separating the truth from the hype I'd appreciate hearing that as well.
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Nature's Lawn is based out of Buffalo, NY, right on the Canadian Border and they have more than 2,000 repeat customers. So I would say north and south get virtually the same results.
As for hype, I have not heard anything discouraging from anyone using the products. Andy got me interested in it and swears by it. He is in Canada.
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Nature's Lawn is based out of Buffalo, NY, right on the Canadian Border and they have more than 2,000 repeat customers. So I would say north and south get virtually the same results.
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I was referring to the timing he was asking about. You probably start the fertilizing season a bit earlier than we do.
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As for hype, I have not heard anything discouraging from anyone using the products. Andy got me interested in it and swears by it. He is in Canada.
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By hype I mean is it just a marketing scheme or is it really the greatest thing since the invention of pretty girls?
From what I understand from the core safety training classes I've attended is that most environmental hazards happen from misapplications. Too much, wrong area or improperly mixed chemicals.
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07-12-2009, 09:36 PM
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I was referring to the timing he was asking about. You probably start the fertilizing season a bit earlier than we do.
By hype I mean is it just a marketing scheme or is it really the greatest thing since the invention of pretty girls?
From what I understand from the core safety training classes I've attended is that most environmental hazards happen from misapplications. Too much, wrong area or improperly mixed chemicals.
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I start the fertilization process at the winterizing stage with low dose application to sustain the lawn through the slower metabolism of winter. You would have to start the springtime process after the final frost.
I think the invention of pretty girls is still in first place, but I have no complaints so far. No that's not true! Nature's Magic will stain flowers if not carefully applied to flower gardens.
There is no mixing (except with water). Everything is 100% biodegradable so there is no environmental hazards.
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Thank you for your advice.
Yay for pretty girls! 
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07-13-2009, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mark123
I was referring to the timing he was asking about. You probably start the fertilizing season a bit earlier than we do.
By hype I mean is it just a marketing scheme or is it really the greatest thing since the invention of pretty girls?
From what I understand from the core safety training classes I've attended is that most environmental hazards happen from misapplications. Too much, wrong area or improperly mixed chemicals.
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I start spraying in mid April, lawns here doe not get excited or going until May and sometimes late in May.
In April I spray Aerify Plus, Dethacher, Insect Guard, Organic Fertilizer and overseed.
In June, July, August - I use a different Organic Fertilizer that helps control weeds
September - Aerify Plus, Dethacher and Fertilizer
Some lawns may differ but that covers most of our customers.
As for Hype, I would have to read it and see. I researched this product to death, have a great relationship with Natures Lawn, the top gun there Stuart has become a good friend and really knows his stuff.
My own lawn in the front was a disaster so I good trial for this stuff, I had a lot of clay, in fact using your hand you might have been able to get a 10" spike in 2 to3 inches, full of weeds, bare spots etc....basically what we would refer to as the lawn from hell. Today you can drive that spike in an easy 6" so we are getting there.
Anyhow I have been going at it full bore with these products, I will take a picture and show you, it has been overseeded twice but it is the best it has ever been and a fraction of the cost of top soil & sod or even top soil and seed, neighbours and friends ask, what the heck did you do to your lawn???? Even clients that had moss problems are reporting it's gone.
Only complaint is when the guys put a little too much in the mixture, clients say their lawn is on steriods and has to be mowed every few days, that to me is a good thing as grass can be a challange to grow here.
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I'm not referring to Nature's Lawn specifically but the entire "organic" movement.
Am I correct in understanding that your being in Canada means that you must use organic products? May I ask what other products from other companies that you've tried?
I've been doing my own research and it comes down to that I am just not fully convinced that organic is the "be-all end-all". I'd surely use some products like Aerify and the dethatcher but probably not a full line of strictly organic products.
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07-13-2009, 05:44 AM
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I'm not referring to Nature's Lawn specifically but the entire "organic" movement.
Am I correct in understanding that your being in Canada means that you must use organic products? May I ask what other products from other companies that you've tried?
I've been doing my own research and it comes down to that I am just not fully convinced that organic is the "be-all end-all". I'd surely use some products like Aerify and the dethatcher but probably not a full line of strictly organic products.
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Every province in Canada differs on the rules and laws, Halifax is the city where I live and was the first in Canada to ban the use of Pesticides and Herbicides, over the years I have used Scott’s products, I believe they are the largest supplier of lawn care products in Canada, results were mixed to fair, never great, I have used round up...seems to work for a few weeks or months, Weed and Feed, once again short lived.
The Organic products go at this a different way, get the lawn healthy and keep it there, if you do you will not have weed and bug problems, it can be expensive getting it there but it’s easy to maintain.
Like anything, simply try it and determine for yourself, Natures Lawn has over 2,000 customers that rave about it, I only started selling it to clients this year so I only have around 80 to 90 clients to get feed back from, majority of which have used the competition or bought their own products with less than satisfactory results.
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I wrote a good primer awhile back on The Lawn Blog all about Organic Lawn Care...I'll paste it in here.
Organic Lawn Care – Naturally
With all of the new laws being passed and the world becoming more aware of what exactly we are putting on our lawns and in our soil, there has been a big push for ‘Organic Lawn Care’.
Organic Lawn Care…what is it? What defines organic? I am sure a lot of readers have a basic understanding of what organic means, but do you know how to apply the term to your lawn? We hope by reading this article you can pull some ideas and put them into practice.
Organic Lawn Care is a series of practices when put into place can create a lush, dense lawn that is less susceptible to weeds and more resistant to insect pests and disease. Something that we are all looking for at the end of the day. I have yet to meet someone that says, “Let it go brown and weedy, that’s the way I like it.” So that being said I hope the following helps a few people out there.
Water Hogs Beware, Your Lawn Doesn’t Thank You
The number one mistake homeowners make when caring for their lawn is overwatering. Drought-enforced watering schedules often result in homeowners watering their lawns too much.
Water studies suggest that when they have to abide by a watering schedule, people apply water several times in short intervals to their lawns. This creates turf diseases. And, ironically, it may increase water consumption.
One reason too much water can be harmful to your home lawn is that it creates a perfect environment for diseases.
So how do you give your lawn the water it needs without putting out a welcome mat for unwanted diseases?
MAKE SURE TO WATER YOUR LAWN IN THE EARLY MORNING!
This gives your lawn plenty of time to dry during the day. You want to maximize the amount of water consistent with good growth but with the least amount of surface wetness.
An example would be to water thoroughly once a week until the top 1 to 2 inches of soil is wet, as opposed to watering three times a week for 30 minutes. The longer any plant is wet, the more you invite diseases.
Mow High and Mow Often
Maintaining your lawn to 3”-4” and never cutting more than 1/3 of its total height at any one time promotes good root structure and growth. Mowing your lawn too short creates weak and shallow root systems therefore making your lawn susceptible to weeds and disease. The exact things we are trying to avoid.
Make sure to mow your lawn once a week when it is growing actively. In summer, however, once every two weeks is usually enough (depending on circumstances; weather, watering, shade, quality of soil).
Grass clippings in moderation can also be left on the lawn. When they breakdown with the help of micro-organisms in the soil, they release nutrients making your lawn healthier. A mulching mower or blade kit can help with this process.
And while we are on the topic of mowing, make sure your lawnmower blade(s) are always sharp. Dull blades tear the grass blades rather than cutting them. The results can be ugly. The tips of your grass blades will turn brown/gray giving your lawn a bad finish. If you are not too sure on how to sharpen and balance your mower blades most small engine repair shops will be happy to do that for you.
Improve Your Soil
By improving your soil quality you are giving your lawn a nice bed to lay in…or on for that matter. There are many way to accomplish this and here are a few.
Aerating
Aerating consists of making many small holes in your lawn by removing plugs of soil with a core aerator or by making holes using a pin aerator. These both come in manual and engine devices. The most common aerator you may have seen is the core aerator.
By doing this you allow a better flow of air, water and nutrients to the roots. This stimulates root growth and prevents thatch build-up. You need to aerate when the ground becomes hard and compacted. Compacted lawns will not absorb water and nutrients as well making for a sad lawn. However, weeds seem grow in abundance in compacted soil.
Because aerating creates quite a few openings in the lawn, it is best done from late-August to mid-September, when lawns are less susceptible to weeds and the ground is moist without being drenched. You can also aerate in spring when the ground is cool but not waterlogged. The idea is to allow your lawn to heal from this process. Aerating in the middle of a hot summer is not a good idea.
Topdressing
Compost, compost and more compost. You cannot get a better topdressing than compost. Compost is both the best soil amendment and the best fertilizer. It adds micro-organisms to the soil, giving them both shelter and nutrients, in addition to improving the soil structure, balancing the pH and supplying essential nutrients for plant growth. You should apply a layer of compost once every three or four years in spring or early fall, when the lawn is in active growth.
Compost may be harder to find than other topdressing (black earth, triple mix, screen topsoil) but it is worth it. Make sure to use mature compost (rich, loose and dark), that is finely textured and doesn’t contain any weeds. Avoid compost with large amounts of topsoil or peat moss, both of which decompose too slowly.
Fertilizing your lawn
A lawn is subject to very difficult growing conditions: for one thing it is constantly mown and trampled. We often tend to expect our lawns to be greener and lusher than the soil can support. In most cases, this means that we need to fertilize.
Many people ask, “How do I fertilize my lawn, all there is out there are chemical applications.” That is not true, where most stores seem to carry only chemical applications there are other ways. Natural fertilizer may be either organic (plant or animal waste) or mineral (crushed stone), but either way it has not been chemically processed. They are out there you may just have to look a little harder. And with all of the new laws coming into place most (if not all) lawn service companies offer organic fertilizer as an option to their programs.
Fertilizing 2-3 times per year is adequate and almost necessary.
But What About The Weeds?
A healthy and well kept lawn, as well as optimum soil conditions, will greatly stifle the spread of weeds. Ground that is too compact, too clayey, too acid or too alkaline supports weed growth, as do lawns mowed too short.
The use of weed killers is generally not the best solution since they do not attack the cause only the visual weeds at the moment (and is not an organic solution). The ideal would rather be to pull the weeds out as soon as they appear, before the lawn is invaded. And then tackle the cause. Such as an overgrown empty lot next door.
I Got Grubs!
The larvae of several beetle species, commonly known as white grubs, are major pests of Canadian lawns. In Ontario the most common white grub species are the European chafer and the Japanese beetle. Injury to lawns occurs from larval munching on the roots, resulting in infested areas first turning yellow, then brown, and finally dying. When grub populations are heavy, areas of turf can be easily lifted from the soil. In addition, moles, raccoons, skunks, birds and other vertebrate animals feed on white grubs. Turf can be heavily damaged by the activities of these animals as they forage for grubs in infested turf. I have seen an entire lawn vanish in a matter of 2 weeks.
So what do you do organically? Well there is an answer…Nematodes.
Nematodes, also known as round worms, are a group of soft-bodied invertebrate worms which inhabit almost all possible locations where life can survive on earth.
Most species of nematodes are small or microscopic, as well as being colourless and transparent. Consequently, most people have never seen nematodes, except for the scientists who study them and the farmers whose crops have been affected by them.
There are certain species of nematodes that are effective against grubs and other larvae by basically eating them. You can contact your local lawn service provider to find out more on how to obtain them or get someone to apply them.
Nematodes are cultured on common sponges that are kept moist. These sponges can be stored for a month in the fridge so long as it is kept moist. Be sure that the nematodes are fresh! Stale, ineffective nematodes smell “fishy”…yummy.
Make sure to irrigate your lawn to 1 inch depth. Nematodes need moist soil to disperse effectively. To apply, simply soak the sponge in a medium sized pail (approx 4.5L) of ROOM TEMPERATURE water for half an hour (30 min) and squeeze the sponge to get all the nematodes into the water. This will be your stock solution, make sure to use within 2 hours or else they will die. You can use something as simple as a watering can, just dilute 1L of stock into 4.5L of water and water onto your lawn. Never apply in direct sunlight, nematodes like cool days, with protection from UV rays….ah ah me too! Apply on a very cloudy day or at dusk.
Well without letting all of our tricks out of the bag there you have it for our take on ‘Organic Lawn Care’. Taking care of your lawn naturally means just that. In some cases it does mean more work, compares to its chemical counterpart, but the results are worth it. We really hope you enjoyed reading this article and you took something away from it.
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