Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation | A great way to talk about all things lawn care related. Grass, turf, shrubs, trees, aeration, fertilization, reseeding, hydro-seeding, mowing, grub control, chemicals and pesticides. Ask questions, give answers. Grow! | |
|
|
|
|
Organic Lawn Care
Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation
| A great way to talk about all things lawn care related. Grass, turf, shrubs, trees, aeration, fertilization, reseeding, hydro-seeding, mowing, grub control, chemicals and pesticides. Ask questions, give answers. Grow! | |
|
 |
|

07-12-2009, 12:45 PM
|
 |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,671
Rep Power: 10
|
|
Organic Lawn Care
|
|
Steve has a great topic to talk to all of us about, organic lawn care.
He would like to discuss a bunch of issues and maybe more if you have more questions for him.
Some of the topics he would like to cover include.
Quote:
1. Safety and liability of the synthetic fertilizers and pesticides
2. Equipment needed
3. Time and labor savings
4. Environmental concerns
5. Lawn health. A plush healthy lawn is weed and Insect free.
6. How to build humus. Conventional methods don't - they even destroy it
7. Higher profits.
8. An edge over the compitition
9. Present and future regulations. Organic methods are all that is allowed now in Canada. Soon it will be the same here.
10. Be at the forefront of change. Set the standards
11. Methods homeowners don't want to get into. Equipment, time, learning curve, etc.
|
Steve can you jump in here and share with us some of your thoughts on these topics?
|
|
|

07-12-2009, 01:54 PM
|
 |
Steve
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hartsville, SC
Age: 64
Posts: 1,079
Rep Power: 6
|
|
Organic Lawn Care
Lawn care business tips
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
Steve has a great topic to talk to all of us about, organic lawn care.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
He would like to discuss a bunch of issues and maybe more if you have more questions for him.
Some of the topics he would like to cover include.
Steve can you jump in here and share with us some of your thoughts on these topics?
|
Organic lawn care is easy, profitable, and the tools, equipment and supplies are readily available. No licenses or permits are required. The products are safe to people, pets and the environment.
I use Nature's Lawn products and swear by them. Easy to store, to use, and have behind them years of testing. These products actually build the soil (synthetic and chemical fertilizers just feed the grass and actually harm the soil). They can be applied simultaneously saving time and money. With the exception of their Insect Guard, all can even be applied in the rain.
Most homeowners will mow their own lawn, but shy away from aerating and dethatching giving you a ready made service market.
Originally, we talked about presenting this as video conferences. But decided to use the Forum instead. I developed organic lawn care primer to answer and generate questions. Read the primer and ask you questions. We'll do our best to answer them.
Organic Lawn Care Primer
What to expect when switching to organic lawn care
|
__________________

|

07-12-2009, 05:04 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout
... No licenses or permits are required. ...
|
That's a bit disheartening actually. Is that in all states?
|

07-12-2009, 05:14 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
|
|
I have a question concerning a problem I deal with quite often. Many of the lawns in the area have been stripped of any proper top soil and then seeded with cheap garbage grass (mostly annual rye) that comes up fast and dies off to leave mostly weeds and pest grass.
One lawn in particular I figured out how much top soil they would need to make an appropriate base for a good lawn. I told them 42 tons of top soil. The contractor they hired put 4 tons (not even 10% of the necessary amount). The results are, let's just say, less than acceptable. So now this lawn with not enough top soil is effectively the same as the stripped lawns with none.
Is there anything that can assist in converting the clay and rocky soil into an even slightly more appropriate lawn base?
|

07-12-2009, 05:21 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
|
|
I'm reading some of your site and it seems that you do have some items that will break down the clay (this is great news for me).
I also read that it says that on the first year lawns can go through "withdrawl" from the synthetic, high nitrogen fertilizers. What about lawns that are new and have never become accustomed to fertilizing? I'd be starting them out on organics. Would I still need to apply an extra dose to get it in shape?
|

07-12-2009, 05:52 PM
|
 |
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 5
|
|
Maintenance Schedule
Can you give us a general idea of what type of schedule these should be on as far as what time in the year is optimum for each application.
|

07-12-2009, 06:01 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccmark
Can you give us a general idea of what type of schedule these should be on as far as what time in the year is optimum for each application.
|
This will most likely differ from north to south as the lawn types and timing of applications will differ due to the climate zone differences. Steve is in the Carolinas and we are in the cold, cold north.
Steve, if you have any advice on separating the truth from the hype I'd appreciate hearing that as well.
Last edited by mark123; 07-12-2009 at 06:04 PM.
|

07-12-2009, 07:01 PM
|
 |
Andy
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 8
|
|
In your customers situation, although it's tough without seeing the lawn in question here is what I would do, spray Aerify Plus and water heavy, spread about an inch of screened organic top dressing soil, seed, roll, apply a high Nitrogen slow release turf starter, roll again then go back in three to four weeks and spray Natures Magic and organic Fertilizer.
The Organic products do not perform as well as the high Nitrogen slow release granular products on new seed or sod based on my experience which is about 80 new lawns this season.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
|

07-12-2009, 08:42 PM
|
 |
Steve
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hartsville, SC
Age: 64
Posts: 1,079
Rep Power: 6
|
|
licenses
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark123
That's a bit disheartening actually. Is that in all states?
|
All the products are considered food sources. The are 100% biodegradable leaving no dangers to people pets or the environment.
I don't know of any state that requires one.
Steve
__________________

|

07-12-2009, 08:51 PM
|
 |
Steve
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hartsville, SC
Age: 64
Posts: 1,079
Rep Power: 6
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark123
I'm reading some of your site and it seems that you do have some items that will break down the clay (this is great news for me).
I also read that it says that on the first year lawns can go through "withdrawl" from the synthetic, high nitrogen fertilizers. What about lawns that are new and have never become accustomed to fertilizing? I'd be starting them out on organics. Would I still need to apply an extra dose to get it in shape?
|
Aerify is the product you are talking about. It breaks down the clay allowing water and air to penetrate. It also has bio-enhancements that revitalize soil bacteria, enzymes, and fungi that make more nutrients redily available to the plant roots requiring less external nitrogen.
For new lawns not damaged by chemical and synthetic fertilizers, I would use Aerify first, seed or sod, apply Matures Magic to start. Mulch the grass and leaves into the lawn and add the bio-enhanced dethatcher. the mulch will start building humus in weeks.
Steve
__________________

|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
» Landscape Product Categories |
|
» Free Lawn Care Business Flyer, Door Hanger, Contract & Logo Templates |
|
|
» Recent Threads |
| |
RatingTitle, Username, & Date |
Last Post |
Replies |
Views |
 |
Trimmer Line
Shark1611
05-16-2013 07:56 PM
|
|
6 |
205 |
 |
no-compete agreement
CDLAWNCARE
Today 12:45 AM
|
|
3 |
79 |
 |
The customer is ALWAYS...
cutnuplawnservice
Today 08:28 AM
|
|
1 |
61 |
 |
Yesterday, I had a...
LawnBoy0311
04-25-2013 05:30 AM
|
|
7 |
740 |
 |
How I found TOO Many...
BLC7
01-11-2013 02:12 PM
|
|
62 |
4,513 |
 |
When to mow, collect,...
cuttingedgeron
04-05-2013 01:06 PM
|
|
7 |
623 |
 |
trailer leaf vac.
t-10yrs2retire
Yesterday 10:44 AM
|
|
2 |
124 |
 |
It's FRIDAY!!!
CHEESE2009
Yesterday 05:18 AM
|
|
2 |
142 |
 |
Radio advertising
CDLAWNCARE
05-04-2013 06:26 PM
|
|
5 |
568 |
 |
New Beginner here...
LawnCareProfessional
05-14-2013 12:05 AM
|
Yesterday 12:00 PM
by Steve
|
8 |
447 |
 |
Flower bed cultivation...
Emar
05-15-2013 04:41 PM
|
Yesterday 11:42 AM
by Steve
|
5 |
224 |
 |
Code violations
Greg'slawnandlandscape
05-16-2013 12:11 PM
|
Yesterday 11:39 AM
by Steve
|
8 |
252 |
 |
Moss in grass in the...
tk4454
05-16-2013 11:19 PM
|
Yesterday 11:36 AM
by Steve
|
2 |
133 |
 |
problem #2..springs in...
t-10yrs2retire
05-11-2013 09:03 AM
|
Yesterday 11:34 AM
by Steve
|
8 |
565 |
 |
Installing grass seed
thom
05-05-2013 06:35 PM
|
Yesterday 11:29 AM
by Steve
|
7 |
701 |
 |
Hoping someone can help.
jasonw
05-10-2013 09:19 AM
|
Yesterday 11:25 AM
by Steve
|
9 |
513 |
 |
1st video.
Grass Doctor
05-15-2013 05:52 PM
|
|
7 |
262 |
 |
Undercutters
jhamilton60@yahoo.com
05-15-2013 08:17 PM
|
|
12 |
327 |
 |
help pricing sod job
Jayls
05-15-2013 01:03 PM
|
Yesterday 07:06 AM
by Emar
|
5 |
280 |
 |
New Toro Super Recycler...
Hedgemaster
03-20-2011 12:55 AM
|
|
131 |
25,378 |
 |
Mulching
jeffcs
05-14-2013 02:17 PM
|
|
6 |
358 |
 |
Unreasonable Requests
brian'slawncare
05-06-2013 06:07 PM
|
|
29 |
1,417 |
 |
Things are looking...
Jayls
05-14-2013 09:28 AM
|
05-16-2013 11:43 AM
by Steve
|
7 |
367 |
 |
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
|
05-16-2013 11:22 AM
by Steve
|
1,112 |
186,000 |
 |
White Riding Mower Help
osbornl1
05-09-2013 12:17 PM
|
|
4 |
526 |
 |
Bi-weekly question
schnide
05-15-2013 10:58 AM
|
|
9 |
334 |
 |
At Last!
Matther777
05-02-2013 05:51 PM
|
|
17 |
1,089 |
 |
Missing small amount of...
xandrew245x
05-13-2013 04:30 PM
|
|
16 |
499 |
 |
crossroads
djm2013
03-17-2013 08:43 AM
|
05-15-2013 11:49 AM
by Steve
|
47 |
3,894 |
 |
Brush Mower
SECTLANDSCAPING
05-13-2013 06:04 PM
|
05-15-2013 11:43 AM
by Steve
|
7 |
362 |
 |
Court houses....
SouthallMowing
05-13-2013 11:42 PM
|
|
7 |
358 |
 |
Hello Everyone
hemiman
03-16-2013 06:45 PM
|
|
14 |
1,706 |
 |
Need Advice
Tony317
05-13-2013 10:16 PM
|
05-14-2013 01:17 PM
by Steve
|
2 |
291 |
 |
Starting up and using...
Southern83fire
05-12-2013 08:57 PM
|
05-14-2013 01:14 PM
by Steve
|
6 |
442 |
 |
problem #1...I think I...
t-10yrs2retire
05-11-2013 08:52 AM
|
05-14-2013 12:58 PM
by Steve
|
7 |
535 |
 |
Round Up in FL
JRB6250
05-13-2013 03:25 PM
|
05-14-2013 12:56 PM
by Steve
|
3 |
342 |
 |
Seo
superyards
05-10-2013 10:19 AM
|
05-14-2013 12:50 PM
by Steve
|
7 |
521 |
 |
Truck trimmer racks
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-16-2012 05:56 PM
|
|
11 |
2,901 |
 |
Rubbing a Car
SNethercutt
04-28-2013 11:51 PM
|
|
14 |
1,077 |
 |
Help! Need opinions
LawnBoy0311
05-10-2013 11:26 AM
|
|
16 |
743 |
 |
A new way to quote?
LawnBoy0311
05-07-2013 06:12 PM
|
|
21 |
1,074 |
 |
Two for Two - Woo-Hoo!...
Hedgemaster
04-18-2011 09:37 PM
|
|
186 |
36,265 |
 |
Beginner question. Lawn...
WarriorLandscaping25
04-21-2013 07:38 PM
|
05-13-2013 02:16 PM
by Steve
|
10 |
1,275 |
 |
Belt tapping against...
donslawns
05-12-2013 10:56 AM
|
05-13-2013 01:08 PM
by Steve
|
2 |
357 |
 |
Help!
amfine1996
05-11-2013 02:42 PM
|
05-13-2013 11:51 AM
by Steve
|
1 |
376 |
 |
$162.00
stevef1201
05-03-2013 10:58 AM
|
05-13-2013 11:43 AM
by Steve
|
13 |
990 |
 |
feedback please
stevef1201
05-05-2013 08:04 PM
|
05-13-2013 07:27 AM
by jymie
|
9 |
756 |
 |
How to deal with wet...
xandrew245x
05-11-2013 12:04 PM
|
|
10 |
612 |
 |
Omg !!!!!!!!
Ducke
05-05-2013 07:40 PM
|
|
6 |
819 |
 |
Here is the new rig!
xandrew245x
05-06-2013 07:33 PM
|
|
10 |
925 |
|