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If it wont start after it dies check for spark. When a coil goes out it will die when warm. When allowed to cool will restart and act up then die again.
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Why do you think I have a big Stihl sticker on my trailer
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Like I said before, this is only something that a trained technician should do. Typically, there will be a limiter cap on it and you will be no better off than before. And God forbid you remove the cap, and you don't know what you are doing (read, are trained to do so) you can really screw it up. To make matter worse, if you are able to adjust it to where the blower runs, you may very well have adjusted it to the point where it will burn up. Yes, this is possible. The mixture screws are "limited" for a reason. Here are several of those reasons, among other reasons, for the environmental reasons to prevent it from being set to "rich" to where it uses to much fuel, loses power, fouls plugs, creates extra and unnecessary carbon, or even prevent it from starting under certain conditions.

Another reason is to prevent the wrong combination which can cause it to over heat, or under lubricate, or not run at all. As I indicated, the correct combination setting is required for the machine to operate properly. Besides the above mentioned results of improper adjustment, like I mentioned earlier, you can destroy your machine by burning it up!!! I think a tuneup fee at a local servicing dealer would be considerably cheaper!!!

With 4 cycle engines you can cause extreme damage to the engine if it runs too rich (and you would never know it is too rich) because too much gas washes the oil off the cylinders causing it to not be lubricated properly.

For those reasons, I would highly recommend NEVER ADJUSTING a carburetor, 2 cycle or 4 Cycle, unless you are properly trained to do so. As a mechanic, for the above mentioned reasons, I have to respectfully disagree with CheapNEasy.
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I got me another blower!!!

Redmax EBZ8000!!! Found it at like the 5th or 6th pawn shop I went to today. They had $369 on it, I asked if it was negotiable, they said 'yea'.

I got 'em down to $265!!

The choke lever is loose and kinda flops around. I have to hold it out when pulling the cord, but it starts first pull most times, others its on the 2nd pull.


One problem it does have is that when I pull the throttle to wide open I hear the engine go up and down, on its own . Like it won't stay wide open or something, even when I'm not moving the throttle it fluctuates.

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I got me another blower!!!

Redmax EBZ8000!!! Found it at like the 5th or 6th pawn shop I went to today. They had $369 on it, I asked if it was negotiable, they said 'yea'.

I got 'em down to $265!!

The choke lever is loose and kinda flops around. I have to hold it out when pulling the cord, but it starts first pull most times, others its on the 2nd pull.


One problem it does have is that when I pull the throttle to wide open I hear the engine go up and down, on its own . Like it won't stay wide open or something, even when I'm not moving the throttle it fluctuates.

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Its hard to tell without actually hearing it but it sounds like it may be an air leak which messes with your air/fuel mixture. If its not that then it is likely the carburetor needs rebuilt. I don't know what the charge is where you are but I personally charge only about $40-$50 for a carburetor rebuild which includes removing carb, rebuild, reinstall and adjusting while running. If you can financially, I would recommend taking the $100 that you saved and having it checked out and tuned up if that is what it takes. Likely a shop could look at it and tell you what it takes without charging you an arm and a leg.

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Its hard to tell without actually hearing it but it sounds like it may be an air leak which messes with your air/fuel mixture. If its not that then it is likely the carburetor needs rebuilt. I don't know what the charge is where you are but I personally charge only about $40-$50 for a carburetor rebuild which includes removing carb, rebuild, reinstall and adjusting while running. If you can financially, I would recommend taking the $100 that you saved and having it checked out and tuned up if that is what it takes. Likely a shop could look at it and tell you what it takes without charging you an arm and a leg.

Good luck and let me know what happens. Congrats on finding what you wanted!
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Hey, thanks for the reply.

I remember noticing a short piece of yellow wire on the carb when the blower was sitting on the pawn shop's shelf, it was really just sitting on it, it wasn't tied or affixed so I disregarded it.
Turns out that whoever had it must have used that wire to hold the choke lever in once they got it started.

The fluctuation came from the choke lever flopping up and down, yes, it's that loose, while the blower is running. The vibration from the blower makes it do that.
Solution: I tied a short piece of trimmer line around it and it was solid.... until.

After my first yard yesterday I noticed that it wasn't wide open when I pulled the throttle all the way back. What was weird is that I had already started it up that morning and played with it when I figured out about the choke lever and I could notice a significant difference in the wide open from before and the wide open on my first yard. I suspected first that it was the fuel mix since it was the obvious unknown variable.

Solution: It still had the same mix in it that it came with from the pawn shop... wasn't much so I ran it out and put some in from my buddy's truck. Ran like a velociraptor! Strong.

I guess the mix that the previous owner used was too lean.
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