Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Community Assistance

Community Assistance Community questions, comments, and suggestions. Problems posting? Email me.

Kabuto L340


Community Assistance

Community questions, comments, and suggestions. Problems posting? Email me.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-05-2009, 01:39 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 66
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 8
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Kabuto L340

Local Dealer has a Kuboto L340 tractor with a loader and a tiller that he reposessed. Tractor has 720 hours on it and it comes with a 10,000# trailer (sold used).

He is asking $15,999.00 for the whole thing. Is it a good deal?

Steve

p.s. we have had 2 days of solid thunderstorms - no work!
__________________


Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 05-05-2009, 07:25 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout View Post
Local Dealer has a Kuboto L340 tractor with a loader and a tiller that he reposessed. Tractor has 720 hours on it and it comes with a 10,000# trailer (sold used).

He is asking $15,999.00 for the whole thing. Is it a good deal?

Steve

p.s. we have had 2 days of solid thunderstorms - no work!
Steve what model tractor? L340 is a loader
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-05-2009, 07:28 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout View Post
Local Dealer has a Kuboto L340 tractor with a loader and a tiller that he reposessed. Tractor has 720 hours on it and it comes with a 10,000# trailer (sold used).

He is asking $15,999.00 for the whole thing. Is it a good deal?

Steve

p.s. we have had 2 days of solid thunderstorms - no work!
Also, is the trailer a Tandum with electric brakes?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-05-2009, 07:37 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 66
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 8
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
Also, is the trailer a Tandum with electric brakes?
Yes, required by SC law. I went to the bank this afternoon. With $6,000.00 down, my monthly payments would be $192.20 for 3 years.

Still deciding! I want to keep 5 months expenses in the bank as a buffer. Taking the $6k out would cut 2 months off.

What do you think?

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-05-2009, 08:43 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout View Post
Yes, required by SC law. I went to the bank this afternoon. With $6,000.00 down, my monthly payments would be $192.20 for 3 years.

Still deciding! I want to keep 5 months expenses in the bank as a buffer. Taking the $6k out would cut 2 months off.

What do you think?

Steve
Steve, what model tractor is it? Or do you know how many HP as I can then narrow it down.

Personally I think we should all have 6 months in savings to cover our living expenses, only having 3 months is cutting it close although you are doing very, very well and you have quite a few months of yard care ahead of you, you have rented equipment at least three times, I seem to recall it was around $400.00 +/- a weekend, each time is two months payments so there is 6 months of payments right there.

I do know one thing, once you have a tractor it opens up a whole new world of opportunities and it gives you a leg up on the competition, we picked up three lawn care contracts today although that is not why the clients called us, two were drainage and one is a $4,000. tree clearing and wood chipping deal, we started talking about the lawn care and the next thing I know he gives us everything, almost 1.5 acres and he has a brand new John Deere lawn mower in the garage, he still hates mowing grass....the other two were easy sales also.

Once you have a tractor with a PTO, 3 point hitch and loader, there is next to nothing you can't do.

I just paid $2,500 for a tiller last Saturday, it is now paid for with signed contracts and with what I signed tonight it is now making money.

As for 700 hours, that isn't much for a diesel assuming it has been taken care of, do you have any pictures you could email me? Also does it have R4 (tractor tires) or Turf's, I have both for all our tractors but 95% of the time we run tractor tires.

With a loader you can provide services to landscapers, I have been approached by three in the last two weeks either getting gas or getting coffee in the mornings asking if they could sub contract soil and fill movement to me, I wish we could take on some work like this but I don't have enough equipment and we have grown as much as I want to this year.

I can tell you a 10,000# tandem trailer with brakes here is $9,700. I have three of them and just bough the third one last week for the new 2720 tractor I added. A new tractor with a loader and backhoe (John Deere 2720) with a trailer is $43,000. We put about 800 hours a year on them, when they hit 1,500 +/- I trade them for a new one and get top dollar as we keep everything in like new condition.

For example I traded a 2305 which is a little smaller than the one you are looking at, it had 1,600 hours, dealer gave me $18,500 on a trade so they hold their value well as I only paid $26,200 for this tractor new.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-05-2009, 09:13 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 66
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 8
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default L3400

Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
Steve, what model tractor is it? Or do you know how many HP as I can then narrow it down.

Personally I think we should all have 6 months in savings to cover our living expenses, only having 3 months is cutting it close although you are doing very, very well and you have quite a few months of yard care ahead of you, you have rented equipment at least three times, I seem to recall it was around $400.00 +/- a weekend, each time is two months payments so there is 6 months of payments right there.
I said L340 it's an L3400. 35.7 HP - 28.5 PTO HP - HST with I-type range shift. It looks to be in good shape. The owner passed on and his widow let it be repossed. (That's what the dealer said anyway)

I am looking at all the opportunities it will present. The 3 months is there for a situation where both my wife and myself can't work. I havn't talked it over with her yet. She hasn't been home for a week and I don't want to do it over the phone. She comes home Thursday.

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2009, 09:25 PM
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 29
Posts: 1,801
Rep Power: 0
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

Don't you mean Kubota.. and not Kabuto
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2009, 09:26 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout View Post
I said L340 it's an L3400. 35.7 HP - 28.5 PTO HP - HST with I-type range shift. It looks to be in good shape. The owner passed on and his widow let it be repossed. (That's what the dealer said anyway)

I am looking at all the opportunities it will present. The 3 months is there for a situation where both my wife and myself can't work. I havn't talked it over with her yet. She hasn't been home for a week and I don't want to do it over the phone. She comes home Thursday.

Steve
That is a pretty big tractor for lawn care, weight wise but yes it's a very good price. It would be the equilivent of the 3000 series in John Deere, I stick to the upper end of the 2000 series only due to weight.

I have four sizes, 2305, 2320, 2520 and the 2720. My personal all around favorite is the 2520. Each has their place in this business and each can do something the other's can't or would have a difficult time doing.

The tractor you are looking at would be amazing at moving soil and fill, levelling areas using a box scraper, excellent at tilling and wood chipping. Too large for mowing & spraying however, IMHO you would compact the soil too much and more than likely leave wheel marks even with turf's.

Personally if I didn't have a tractor and had the oportunities you do, sitting from here I would go for it, put $3,000 down, take the other $3,000 and put it in your emergency fund and don't touch it, take out a four year loan and lock it in as interest rates are at all time lows and I see them moving the other way within 9 months based on the economic data coming out.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-05-2009, 09:37 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 66
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 8
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default $3,000.00 Down

Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
Personally if I didn't have a tractor and had the oportunities you do, sitting from here I would go for it, put $3,000 down, take the other $3,000 and put it in your emergency fund and don't touch it, take out a four year loan and lock it in as interest rates are at all time lows and I see them moving the other way within 9 months based on the economic data coming out.
Financing is real tough here! The bank set the $6,000.00 down but then they know my balance. The interest rate is 9.5%. At these rates, they will finance it.

How much is a wood chipper? A box blade?

I'm beat. Going to go down for a while.

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-06-2009, 04:36 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swstout View Post
Financing is real tough here! The bank set the $6,000.00 down but then they know my balance. The interest rate is 9.5%. At these rates, they will finance it.

How much is a wood chipper? A box blade?

I'm beat. Going to go down for a while.

Steve
That is a high Interest rate bud, can you take out a personal line of credit in your name and then do an owners loan to the company and have the company buy it, take 50% from each job it does and apply it to the line of credit, you will have it paid for in no time.

I can tell you the Canadian prices I paid but you need to take about 35%++ off for approximate US prices, a 6" chipper cost me $2,300 I bought a Jimna off Ebay and had it shipped here, works great and has paid for itself many times, A box scraper is around $900.00 and once again it paid for itself in two weeks doing driveways but we use it for everything, in fact guys in areas that receive a little snow use it for snow removal as you can push with it as well as pull.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
How do you get...
ESREVER
03-25-2015 01:30 PM
Today 12:18 AM
by lxarth
7 171
Bid for large home...
lxarth
03-22-2015 11:06 AM
Yesterday 11:56 PM
by lxarth
8 276
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
Yesterday 11:42 PM
by lxarth
15 3,406
Mower vs lot size advice
jcurr33
03-25-2015 09:29 PM
Yesterday 11:33 PM
by lxarth
4 144
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
Yesterday 11:27 PM
by lxarth
4 111
hoa bid need help
bigdaveha12
03-24-2015 08:29 PM
Yesterday 11:17 PM
by lxarth
6 208
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
Yesterday 06:59 PM
by avetslawncare
10 491
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 07:15 PM
Yesterday 02:15 PM
by Steve
27 2,351
introducing myself
chris2500hd
03-24-2015 11:16 AM
Yesterday 02:02 PM
by Steve
8 209
Commercial Jobs
CurbAppeal1
03-25-2015 04:22 PM
Yesterday 12:29 PM
by biglee
5 167
Flag or no flag
Matther777
03-24-2015 02:41 PM
Yesterday 12:25 PM
by biglee
10 327
Office Administration...
Girlfriend
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
by Girlfriend
0 65
Is this tree beyond help?
SGL1
03-22-2015 05:35 PM
03-25-2015 08:55 PM
by SGL1
14 476
Opinions on truck wrap
Trupro
02-28-2015 03:21 PM
03-25-2015 07:54 PM
by Trupro
33 1,527
The New Wave!!!! Read...
Jamesw86
03-22-2015 08:33 PM
03-25-2015 02:50 PM
by Steve
10 295
grass in the gas tank
robkattankate
03-23-2015 04:37 PM
03-25-2015 02:36 PM
by Steve
5 176
Helping others
hansenslawncare
09-15-2011 08:50 PM
03-25-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
11 2,650
DOT Number
acrajchel
03-20-2015 05:56 PM
03-25-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
7 300
Michelin x tweel.
apmAkron
03-23-2015 04:22 PM
03-24-2015 12:40 PM
by Steve
3 128
Trepidation about...
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 07:46 PM
03-24-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
1 124
spike aerator???
Bradcook21
03-21-2015 01:55 PM
03-24-2015 10:32 AM
by acrajchel
4 208
Hello from Maryland
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 12:44 PM
03-23-2015 07:33 PM
by michellemarvin
2 125
hello from south GA.
CCandALawnCare
03-23-2015 03:46 AM
03-23-2015 07:06 PM
by CCandALawnCare
2 117
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
03-23-2015 06:14 PM
by jethro
1,218 380,000
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 11:30 AM
03-23-2015 12:28 PM
by Steve
9 828
35,000 Eddm
greenscaper123
03-18-2015 12:51 PM
03-23-2015 11:48 AM
by BLC7
18 462
Should i take on this...
christw
03-17-2013 01:23 PM
03-22-2015 09:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
36 7,555
mower stalls when...
boog
03-19-2015 08:20 AM
03-21-2015 08:13 PM
by Wolf4dk
7 258
Weed and Feed
robkattankate
03-19-2015 09:00 PM
03-21-2015 01:53 PM
by Bradcook21
4 295
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
03-20-2015 10:00 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 3,598
Hello Emily Reyes from...
Webster14829
03-20-2015 11:23 AM
03-20-2015 03:36 PM
by Steve
2 174
Finally going to give it...
jcurr33
03-12-2015 08:09 PM
03-20-2015 03:31 PM
by Steve
10 545
Weed id?
SGL1
03-17-2015 08:20 PM
03-20-2015 02:37 PM
by Steve
6 276
Mobile small engine...
luckylogger
03-15-2015 02:05 PM
03-20-2015 06:17 AM
by jrs.landscaping
15 473
Brad Cook 21
SC93
03-16-2015 10:40 PM
03-19-2015 09:04 PM
by Bradcook21
4 346
honest opinion please
uppercut
02-17-2015 01:30 AM
03-18-2015 02:55 PM
by Steve
15 1,304
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 04:07 PM
03-18-2015 02:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
21 2,021
new to the site
bigdaveha12
03-17-2015 09:13 PM
03-18-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
1 202
Small dovetail truck...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-04-2015 06:47 PM
03-17-2015 10:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
17 853
New Site Hows it look
Infinitelawn
03-16-2015 10:32 AM
03-17-2015 08:15 PM
by SGL1
3 280
mulch questions
Bradcook21
03-08-2015 08:37 AM
03-17-2015 07:00 PM
by Bradcook21
23 974
Scag hydro w/b frame...
Just for Cuts
03-11-2015 03:32 PM
03-17-2015 06:37 PM
by lxarth
11 494
Buy new or used?
lxarth
12-26-2014 09:50 PM
03-17-2015 06:11 PM
by lxarth
14 1,703
New to 2015
Infinitelawn
03-16-2015 08:29 AM
03-17-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
4 287
Pulling trailer was...
SGL1
03-07-2015 07:14 PM
03-17-2015 08:11 AM
by SGL1
30 1,126
Diesel conversion?
Just for Cuts
03-02-2015 09:59 AM
03-16-2015 03:26 PM
by Just for Cuts
10 632
trimmer racks.
apmAkron
03-12-2015 09:07 AM
03-16-2015 03:17 PM
by Steve
4 352
Ferris FW35 questions
Chilehead
03-10-2015 08:31 PM
03-16-2015 03:11 PM
by Steve
4 352
new equipment
apmAkron
03-12-2015 09:12 AM
03-16-2015 03:07 PM
by Steve
7 365
When do you get the most...
CHEESE2009
09-14-2011 03:28 PM
03-16-2015 03:05 PM
by Steve
18 5,630
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush commercial contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems estimate facebook foreman google gravely growing a lawn care business hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lawn mowing managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets more customers business mulch new mower ordinance patio install per hour service scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization secrets to landscaping seo shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns theft toro tractor auger trailer mate pro up sell employee web design website won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:44 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:44 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy