Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

How far is too far?


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-02-2009, 01:14 PM
anaheimlawn's Avatar
anaheimlawn anaheimlawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 6
anaheimlawn is on a distinguished road
Default How far is too far?

So I am finaly getting started. all of my equipment is together. I have began marketing, I am all set to go right? I was thinking of where i wanted to be with my business. Did i want to do residential and have some one at every home, or did i want to go commercial and..... well you get the idea. I decided to with foreclosed homes. I have family who are in real estate. I began sending email and calling all the leads I recieved. And about 5 min. after i sent the mail i got a response. An agent in modesto california replied that he had at least 7 properties that needed my services. Great right? well... modesto is about 350 miles away from anaheim the trip would take nearly 5 hours. But the lead could lead to more homes. right now they have over 40 homes that need maintence but they already have someone taking care of 33 of them. They told me they were considering someone new? Should I take the accounts or not?

Sorry for the long story, i could not make it any shorter...:-)
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 05-02-2009, 02:29 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
That seems too far IMHO, your travel and maintenance costs would be very high....but that is just my thoughts. Personally my work area is a 45 min circle from my house and I have turned away a few good excavation jobs that were just over an hour, it's just too much travel time.
Reply With Quote
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-02-2009, 05:42 PM
musician/lawnman's Avatar
musician/lawnman musician/lawnman is offline
Chuck
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South West Florida
Posts: 919
Rep Power: 7
musician/lawnman is on a distinguished road
Default

No way man. Too far.
Like he said above, your expenses would eat you alive. What if you got so many there that you needed some help.... you gonna pay an employee all that drive time on top of it?! Set a boundary, a line in the sand that is reasonable & don't cross it.
__________________
AAA QUALITY CLEAN CUT, LLC.
LAWN CARE & LANDSCAPING
Visit us here:

  #4  
Old 05-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,384
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

What is your view now after hearing some reactions to your question?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-02-2009, 10:07 PM
SuperiorPower
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I suppose you could do it, just with the appropriate pay. Your customer would have to accept that you have to charge more if you are expected to drive that distance. If you employees are needed you would have to figure this in. I would say if you are willing to drive the distance and you customer is willing to pay you for your time and expense to drive the distance than have at it. For example, if you have to drive for 5 hours each way, you would have to stay there at a motel or something. 10 hours pay for you and each employee + motel cost + mileage charge + cost to do work = customer charge ..... I agree the cost would probably be insurmountable but if they are willing to pay (at least some of it up front) then I would be willing to go. I doubt they would be willing to pay you the extra cost needed.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-02-2009, 10:14 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Another thing to think about is getting paid.

I do foreclosed homes here but was warned that getting paid is often a challenge. Here, I can easily file a lien on the property. I tell the agents up front, that I get paid by the 15th of the following month or I file a lien.

350 miles to file a lien is 700 miles round trip and that you can't get reinbursed for.

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-04-2009, 11:08 AM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Should I take the accounts or not?

Sorry for the long story, i could not make it any shorter...:-)

You should put a mobile home on the back of your truck, that way you can live there lol.

Sounds like a good opportunity, but I wouldn't do it. Too farrrrrr $$$$$$.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-04-2009, 09:47 PM
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 28
Posts: 1,801
Rep Power: 0
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

1 hr is my maximum
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-06-2009, 11:19 AM
anaheimlawn's Avatar
anaheimlawn anaheimlawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 6
anaheimlawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow! thanks for all of the responses. I think I am going to go with the crowd here. I am not going to do this account. After putting all the numbers together i came out with a total profit of about 100$ for 2 days (10 hr each), That is after paying my one helper. and including all fuel charges. That was the most expensive part. I have an older dodge pick up and we average 9mpg on the freeway. It would cost around 200$ in just fuel. I estimated the room at 50$ per night. I pay my helper an average of 10$ per hour. That is 100$. I estimate food for both of us at 50$. And I was going to charge 150 for the first time. and 75 after that. So I am leaning toward a no. Thanks everyone for your feedback. Also how would you beable to explain to the customer that i will not be able to take there account

Thank you for all of your help.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,384
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Also how would you beable to explain to the customer that i will not be able to take there account
Two ideas off the top of my head.

1. Give them an estimate for an outrageous fee to do the services so they say no, but if they say yes you would be pleasantly surprised.

2. Just simply say it's outside your service area however if they have any jobs within your area, to give you a call.

Keep us posted on how this goes.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Looking for feed back on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-17-2014 08:38 AM
Today 08:17 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
9 208
This sucks...
Matther777
Yesterday 04:56 PM
Today 04:03 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 63
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
Yesterday 06:32 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
58 6,670
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
Yesterday 06:24 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
22 1,258
Hello from upstate NY!
A&MLawn&Snow
Yesterday 11:19 AM
Yesterday 04:10 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 89
Price to apply fertilizer
SS.Lawncare
09-15-2014 11:10 AM
Yesterday 01:16 PM
by Steve
9 339
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
09-01-2014 10:17 AM
09-17-2014 09:57 PM
by curts lawn care
4 854
new to the forum
SGlawncare
09-16-2014 11:20 PM
09-17-2014 08:29 PM
by curts lawn care
3 172
Help With Snow Blowing...
Robertf31
09-13-2014 10:55 PM
09-17-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 523
Non-Stop Summer?
SouthallMowing
09-14-2014 10:51 PM
09-17-2014 10:48 AM
by stevef1201
6 326
Tribulations of working...
stevef1201
09-13-2014 08:37 AM
09-16-2014 10:43 PM
by SGL1
6 375
Poll - net income
Dan5082
11-15-2010 08:08 PM
09-16-2014 04:44 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 3,148
Getting lowballed!
PineHillLawn
06-27-2012 07:23 AM
09-16-2014 01:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
24 4,807
Compare this summer to...
Steve
09-03-2014 12:52 PM
09-16-2014 11:20 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
15 1,034
thinking about throwing...
veteranslawncaresystems
09-09-2014 10:31 PM
09-15-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
12 727
Hello
Robertf31
09-12-2014 10:34 PM
09-15-2014 03:17 PM
by Steve
2 335
Newbie......Again
Jibber
09-13-2014 12:17 PM
09-15-2014 02:54 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 358
Replacing a Shindi T-27
Dan Tanner
09-13-2014 12:59 PM
09-15-2014 02:31 PM
by Steve
1 325
need help with starter...
GoGreenerKS
09-12-2014 04:23 PM
09-15-2014 02:25 PM
by Steve
3 353
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
09-15-2014 02:16 PM
by Steve
12 1,049
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
09-15-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 820
Employee uniforms
Gerardo_Landscape
01-21-2014 11:11 PM
09-15-2014 02:12 PM
by Steve
5 950
Greetings from the north
Northwoods Outdoors
09-13-2014 08:55 AM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Steve
1 321
darleneh
darleneh
09-15-2014 12:33 PM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 199
My 1st bid
WesleySnips
06-11-2014 03:13 PM
09-15-2014 02:05 PM
by Steve
29 1,736
New Aerator
Chaz
09-09-2014 11:43 PM
09-15-2014 01:50 PM
by Steve
9 563
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
09-15-2014 01:23 PM
by stevef1201
8 1,211
Scag turf tiger hydrolic...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-04-2014 10:55 PM
09-14-2014 03:06 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
8 731
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
09-13-2014 09:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
116 7,985
getting ready to start
calebmoss
05-23-2011 09:35 PM
09-11-2014 12:21 PM
by Steve
34 11,225
Stihl pull cord replace
SGL1
09-03-2014 09:22 PM
09-10-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
9 746
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
09-10-2014 12:16 PM
by Steve
18 1,478
Lawn Route Templates
Landscaper1165
08-30-2014 01:52 PM
09-09-2014 08:05 PM
by Landscaper1165
4 965
New truck and trailer...
Johnny Rocket
05-14-2012 03:41 PM
09-09-2014 07:23 PM
by Matther777
18 6,560
What gets you bad press?
Steve
09-09-2014 11:48 AM
09-09-2014 07:21 PM
by Matther777
2 449
Signs on your snow plow?
Steve
01-15-2007 01:07 AM
09-09-2014 11:42 AM
by Steve
19 6,197
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
09-08-2014 08:08 PM
by avetslawncare
12 1,255
New to the business
flamingyouth87
09-05-2014 11:52 AM
09-08-2014 11:55 AM
by Steve
3 654
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
09-08-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
7 934
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 08:36 AM
09-07-2014 07:35 AM
by avetslawncare
24 7,729
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
09-06-2014 02:09 PM
by Bradcook21
8 1,024
billing matters
sbuchanan8154
09-05-2014 09:56 AM
09-05-2014 03:00 PM
by Steve
3 630
Thoughts
googus
09-05-2014 07:28 AM
09-05-2014 02:23 PM
by Steve
2 584
Backflow Tester
flowcheckllc.2014
09-03-2014 04:37 PM
09-05-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 671
Collections & collection...
jscarolina
09-03-2014 04:39 PM
09-04-2014 03:14 PM
by Steve
2 685
Sod
RosalesLawnCare
08-27-2014 03:47 PM
09-04-2014 02:42 PM
by RosalesLawnCare
4 944
Lawn needs top soil What...
jymie
08-26-2014 11:01 AM
09-03-2014 12:07 PM
by Steve
7 1,013
Hello! New here and...
CaliforniaFriendly
08-29-2014 11:30 AM
09-03-2014 11:15 AM
by Steve
4 918
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
09-02-2014 03:11 PM
by Steve
5 914
New to the industry-...
Lsmain
08-31-2014 10:53 AM
09-02-2014 02:58 PM
by Steve
1 836
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment complex auger birdscaping blades charge christmas lighting collections credit card processing customers decorating ditches exmark ferris first truck fundraiser georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business holiday lighting how much to charge how to bid husqvarna john deere quik trac kansas city kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf leaf removal lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mulch estimate new and restored landscapes new buisness past due podcast promotion pto redmax rotating running a business savannah scag season seo small engine repair snow sprayer starting a business start up lawn care business stihl top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walker
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy