Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

A lot of people talk about


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-18-2009, 08:16 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,516
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default A lot of people talk about

A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Hi Steve. The dream and idea of being your own boss. My father owned a construction business my whole life, and I was always on the job with him learning. I felt my whole life that owning my own business is what I was going to do, I just didnt know what it was that I was going to be doing. I always have loved being outside and have always loved plants/trees.

15 years ago, in high school I took Environmental Landscaping for my R.O.P training, and I didnt know why, I just liked it. Well now it all makes sense.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-19-2009, 05:04 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
The short answer is 25 years of hard work in the corporate world, setting a time/goal when I would break free and work for my own company, building the assets to do it and putting some cash away.

I have been an entrepreneur all my life, started my first company at the age of 12 and even though I have worked in the business world all my life, I always had companies going on the side, I wrote business plans for a time, did around 100 small business tax returns, built houses, decks, furniture etc and the list goes on. I found a great excitement in starting, building and selling a company.

As I mentioned in a previous thread the Lawn Car/Excavation and Woodworking are my retirement business's, I don't care for the word retirement as I will never stop working, this is a cross road in life and I have decided it's time to go at it for myself.

Had an interesting call yesterday from the bank I left in 1994, they offered me an amazing position heading up Corporate Defaults as I was very good at it before I left, requires a lot of travel, I listened, agreed for the EVP to fly in and talk but there is no way I am going back, I am living a dream, this has been a goal since I was 12 and I am going after it.

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-19-2009, 06:00 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,516
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Very interesting! How has all of your experiences effected your view of when you see others trying to get a business started? Can you tell who is going to make a go of it and who isn't? What do you think those who don't get their business started lack that others might have?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-19-2009, 06:31 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Very interesting! How has all of your experiences effected your view of when you see others trying to get a business started? Can you tell who is going to make a go of it and who isn't? What do you think those who don't get their business started lack that others might have?
I am very careful not to judge others, I have seen people that I really didn't think would make a go of it and have turned out very successful, I recall one guy that came to me for a loan to buy a hotel, could not read or write, didn't have much money, wife and three kids to support, I didn't feel positive but approved it, today he owns 8 hotels and 4 or 5 car dealerships.

There is an Entrepreneur test but out by the Canadian Better Business Development bank, I think everyone should take it however do not let it decide your future, I can see if I can locate it and post the test if you like, it give you a percentage number on your ability to succeed, of course in their opinion.

Business's in my experience that fail do not have a well thought business plan and they have not performed research, another thing that happens is trouble in partnerships, growing to fast without the capital to back it up, buying equipment that is not well suited for the task at hand and the list goes on.

I don't want to offend anyone by the following, I was having a coffee yesterday in the local shop and reading a flyer called the coffee news, you can advertise in it, I see so many school/university type's starting in lawn care, offering mowing for $20.00, this really destroys the industry and hurts those of us trying to make a living, one can't stop it and I have seen it in other industries, there are so many things we can do in offering other services but we must be prepared as they are generally here today and gone tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-19-2009, 09:40 AM
outerelements's Avatar
outerelements outerelements is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 37
Rep Power: 6
outerelements is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
Throughout high school and college, I had always worked for a landscaping company every summer. When I finished my degree in finance, I thought I really wanted to pursure a career in the financial sector. Needless to say, I DID NOT!! One day, I found myself in envy seeing the landscaping company outside of the office building I was working at. So, after several months of debate, I quit! I took what savings I had and thus..Outer Elements Lawn & Landscape was born.

I was fortunate in that one of my best friends already his landscaping business up and running. He was able to help me make the transition much more easier.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-19-2009, 10:08 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,516
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
He was able to help me make the transition much more easier.
That is fascinating! How did he help out?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-19-2009, 12:03 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
To actually do it Your need (In order):
  1. Self Confidence
  2. Background
  3. Forward thinking
  4. Experience
  5. Research
  6. Organization
  7. and, Perseverance

Self Confidence - If you don't believe in yourself, no one else will.

Background - My father was an businessman. When I was 10, he introduced Tasty Freeze to NY. He had three Ice Cream stands that became very poplar and franchised 21 more. He then bought the concession at a County Park with 7 amusement rides. Not profitable! Open only during the summer. Year tow he transferred it into a very profitable enterprise. He created a nitch and the need for it. Cortland was a manufacturing city with more than 40 factories and many other enterprises. Many of these companies provided company picnics and clambakes for their employees. During the first winter he aggressively sold the concession as a place that could not only provide the food but also provide entertainment for the adults in a family setting with a means to occupy the kids (free rides all day) and thus out of the parents hair. For six years he successfully ran the business and then sold the concession to my uncle. He then bought three franchises for LUM'S Restaurants. I grew up in this environment.

Forward Thinking - I learned to develop business plans based on his examples. Making a business plan isn't an overnight endeavor. It takes days, weeks or more. It takes rewriting, over and over. It involves financial planning. My father always gave himself a salary. He had to budget his money for living expenses knowing that he would not get more from the business ( religiously walking the talk). Plan expansion or exit ahead of time.

Experience - Build on what you know. Build on what you enjoy. Build on your experiences with people.

Research - Learning is an ongoing process. There is no limit to where you can discover better, easier, less costly methods of operating and/or expanding your business and holdings. Forums like this is one great way to learn.

Organization - Use what you learn to improve. Question both every new idea from your research both the new and how you operate. Ask how new ideas, methods, products can help or hinder. Constantly improve - but realize that constant or continual improvement dictates constant and continual change. Decide the plus and minus of standing firm or being flexible. Always keep an open mind and solicit someone to challenge your decisions. I use my wife!

Perseverance - Self explanitory!

Steve
Reply With Quote
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
musician/lawnman's Avatar
musician/lawnman musician/lawnman is offline
Chuck
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South West Florida
Posts: 919
Rep Power: 7
musician/lawnman is on a distinguished road
Default

Intestinal Fortitude.
Most people I know would love to start a business but lack the b@lls to make that leap from dreams & plans to action.
__________________
AAA QUALITY CLEAN CUT, LLC.
LAWN CARE & LANDSCAPING
Visit us here:

  #10  
Old 03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,516
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Most people I know would love to start a business but lack the b@lls to make that leap from dreams & plans to action.
When you talk with people and they tell you they would like to start a business, what kind do they say they would like to start?

What is the most difficult part about the transition? Why can't they do it slowly on the side of what ever they are currently doing full time?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Talk about being driven Steve General Business Discussions 4 11-12-2007 05:50 PM
Turf Talk Turf Talk Introduce Yourself 4 09-24-2007 06:20 AM
We talk about this all the time I know Steve General Business Discussions 11 08-28-2007 04:47 PM
Talk about a heatwave! Steve General Talk 1 08-09-2007 10:55 AM
Talk is cheap Steve Lawn Care Marketing & Post your marketing material for review! 0 11-18-2006 12:41 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
Today 01:23 PM
Today 01:23 PM
by crieg122
0 12
Hi from SoCal
Jmoney
Today 11:29 AM
Today 12:51 PM
by Steve
1 28
hey everyone
robert8509
Yesterday 08:16 PM
Today 12:48 PM
by Steve
3 89
12 Years in Business!
Chilehead
Today 08:07 AM
Today 12:37 PM
by Steve
1 40
Dealing With Gas Can...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 01:41 PM
Today 12:35 PM
by Steve
8 249
Workmans compensation...
CDLAWNCARE
10-15-2014 08:05 AM
Today 12:33 PM
by Steve
5 480
Cheapskate Landlord...
Mr. Mow
10-20-2014 06:33 AM
Today 11:00 AM
by stevef1201
12 348
raking leaves ?
robert8509
Yesterday 09:19 PM
Today 09:23 AM
by robert8509
4 117
Pda
stevef1201
10-18-2014 02:05 PM
Today 06:12 AM
by ringahding1
4 317
Leaf Box & Loader Set...
ringahding1
10-21-2014 06:20 AM
Today 05:13 AM
by ringahding1
5 216
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
Yesterday 01:33 PM
by Steve
9 773
Hello, from TEXAS
sanchez5
10-17-2014 09:56 PM
Yesterday 01:27 PM
by Steve
6 394
Organic Lawn Care...
NHray
10-17-2014 06:05 PM
Yesterday 01:23 PM
by Steve
3 368
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 01:59 PM
Yesterday 01:19 PM
by Steve
1 142
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
Yesterday 08:51 AM
by ringahding1
12 1,505
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
Yesterday 07:47 AM
by ringahding1
4 1,323
What parts do you carry...
Just for Cuts
10-17-2014 09:08 AM
10-21-2014 01:36 PM
by Mr. Mow
16 649
Jungle to Beautiful
stevef1201
10-17-2014 09:54 AM
10-21-2014 01:26 PM
by stevef1201
11 494
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
10-21-2014 01:19 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
158 11,373
Sunny Beach Tennis...
SGL1
10-19-2014 11:24 PM
10-21-2014 01:04 PM
by SGL1
4 252
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
10-20-2014 08:34 PM
by biglee
10 1,803
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
09-30-2014 10:06 AM
10-20-2014 05:42 PM
by SGL1
7 1,309
how to fi d commercial...
mchampion319
10-19-2014 09:50 PM
10-20-2014 04:41 PM
by Steve
1 221
Hello From Tennessee
mrmann901
10-17-2014 10:02 PM
10-20-2014 04:24 PM
by Steve
1 292
questions on order to...
jack2048
10-13-2014 11:15 AM
10-20-2014 03:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 737
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
10-20-2014 02:14 PM
by Steve
14 2,190
Cement mixer
KevinsLawns
10-15-2014 08:03 PM
10-20-2014 02:11 PM
by Steve
7 475
Hello ! New guy Rob here
RWorthley1
10-17-2014 04:05 PM
10-20-2014 02:09 PM
by Steve
1 319
Snow Blowing
gwilson98
10-12-2014 02:21 PM
10-17-2014 02:51 PM
by Steve
6 656
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
10-17-2014 07:49 AM
by SGL1
6 957
Grasswhoopins.com Anyone...
GRASS WHOOPINS
06-21-2011 11:38 PM
10-16-2014 01:30 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
42 9,321
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 10:04 PM
10-15-2014 09:12 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 686
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
10-15-2014 06:43 PM
by NHray
1,190 340,202
Do you find weed eating...
chuck2s
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
by chuck2s
0 406
Incorporating &...
WesleySnips
10-01-2014 09:39 PM
10-15-2014 01:37 PM
by kslawn
20 1,506
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
10-15-2014 05:57 AM
by ringahding1
8 1,515
Apartment Complex and...
lxarth
06-22-2011 01:10 PM
10-14-2014 06:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
42 9,605
I LOVE hedge trimming
stevef1201
10-13-2014 09:05 AM
10-14-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
5 546
Help with seeder...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-09-2014 07:39 AM
10-13-2014 08:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
5 702
The Market watch
WesleySnips
10-12-2014 08:47 PM
10-13-2014 05:40 PM
by SGL1
3 540
Help pricing a large...
Bradcook21
10-07-2014 06:49 AM
10-13-2014 02:00 PM
by Steve
7 888
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 04:24 PM
10-13-2014 06:46 AM
by Billy Goat
19 1,527
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
04-23-2014 07:23 PM
10-12-2014 10:53 PM
by SGL1
2 850
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
10-12-2014 06:20 PM
by kslawn
25 1,665
Credit card contract
SGL1
10-06-2014 05:31 PM
10-12-2014 03:40 PM
by SGL1
18 1,077
Truck craft dump bed...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-04-2014 08:41 PM
10-10-2014 11:35 AM
by Steve
7 982
First Time River Rock...
berryjam
10-09-2014 06:09 PM
10-10-2014 11:08 AM
by Steve
2 626
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 09:51 PM
10-10-2014 11:03 AM
by Steve
1 613
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
10-09-2014 05:58 PM
by kslawn
28 2,154
Mowing the hills
EyeCatchersNow
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
10-09-2014 04:19 PM
by Just for Cuts
25 3,030
» Popular Tags
2wd aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying bush charge christmas commercial deliquentaccounts demonstration exmark ferris first truck georgia gopherhaul gravely hills holiday honda how much to charge how to hydraulic labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business book lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lighting lighting brass outdoor lights managing a lawn care business marketing mechanic monthly mowing mulch mulch price new business patio install podcast property management company push versus ride savannah scag scag v-ride seo shell snow plowing starting a business starting a lawn care business start up lawn care business stihl sulky toro tractor auger trailer mate pro tree truck new used landscape walker won't return wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:33 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:33 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy