Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

A lot of people talk about


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-18-2009, 08:16 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default A lot of people talk about

A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Hi Steve. The dream and idea of being your own boss. My father owned a construction business my whole life, and I was always on the job with him learning. I felt my whole life that owning my own business is what I was going to do, I just didnt know what it was that I was going to be doing. I always have loved being outside and have always loved plants/trees.

15 years ago, in high school I took Environmental Landscaping for my R.O.P training, and I didnt know why, I just liked it. Well now it all makes sense.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-19-2009, 05:04 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
The short answer is 25 years of hard work in the corporate world, setting a time/goal when I would break free and work for my own company, building the assets to do it and putting some cash away.

I have been an entrepreneur all my life, started my first company at the age of 12 and even though I have worked in the business world all my life, I always had companies going on the side, I wrote business plans for a time, did around 100 small business tax returns, built houses, decks, furniture etc and the list goes on. I found a great excitement in starting, building and selling a company.

As I mentioned in a previous thread the Lawn Car/Excavation and Woodworking are my retirement business's, I don't care for the word retirement as I will never stop working, this is a cross road in life and I have decided it's time to go at it for myself.

Had an interesting call yesterday from the bank I left in 1994, they offered me an amazing position heading up Corporate Defaults as I was very good at it before I left, requires a lot of travel, I listened, agreed for the EVP to fly in and talk but there is no way I am going back, I am living a dream, this has been a goal since I was 12 and I am going after it.

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-19-2009, 06:00 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Very interesting! How has all of your experiences effected your view of when you see others trying to get a business started? Can you tell who is going to make a go of it and who isn't? What do you think those who don't get their business started lack that others might have?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-19-2009, 06:31 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Very interesting! How has all of your experiences effected your view of when you see others trying to get a business started? Can you tell who is going to make a go of it and who isn't? What do you think those who don't get their business started lack that others might have?
I am very careful not to judge others, I have seen people that I really didn't think would make a go of it and have turned out very successful, I recall one guy that came to me for a loan to buy a hotel, could not read or write, didn't have much money, wife and three kids to support, I didn't feel positive but approved it, today he owns 8 hotels and 4 or 5 car dealerships.

There is an Entrepreneur test but out by the Canadian Better Business Development bank, I think everyone should take it however do not let it decide your future, I can see if I can locate it and post the test if you like, it give you a percentage number on your ability to succeed, of course in their opinion.

Business's in my experience that fail do not have a well thought business plan and they have not performed research, another thing that happens is trouble in partnerships, growing to fast without the capital to back it up, buying equipment that is not well suited for the task at hand and the list goes on.

I don't want to offend anyone by the following, I was having a coffee yesterday in the local shop and reading a flyer called the coffee news, you can advertise in it, I see so many school/university type's starting in lawn care, offering mowing for $20.00, this really destroys the industry and hurts those of us trying to make a living, one can't stop it and I have seen it in other industries, there are so many things we can do in offering other services but we must be prepared as they are generally here today and gone tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-19-2009, 09:40 AM
outerelements's Avatar
outerelements outerelements is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 37
Rep Power: 6
outerelements is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
Throughout high school and college, I had always worked for a landscaping company every summer. When I finished my degree in finance, I thought I really wanted to pursure a career in the financial sector. Needless to say, I DID NOT!! One day, I found myself in envy seeing the landscaping company outside of the office building I was working at. So, after several months of debate, I quit! I took what savings I had and thus..Outer Elements Lawn & Landscape was born.

I was fortunate in that one of my best friends already his landscaping business up and running. He was able to help me make the transition much more easier.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-19-2009, 10:08 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
He was able to help me make the transition much more easier.
That is fascinating! How did he help out?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-19-2009, 12:03 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
A lot of people talk or dream about starting their own business. What made you different? What made you be able to actually do it?
To actually do it Your need (In order):
  1. Self Confidence
  2. Background
  3. Forward thinking
  4. Experience
  5. Research
  6. Organization
  7. and, Perseverance

Self Confidence - If you don't believe in yourself, no one else will.

Background - My father was an businessman. When I was 10, he introduced Tasty Freeze to NY. He had three Ice Cream stands that became very poplar and franchised 21 more. He then bought the concession at a County Park with 7 amusement rides. Not profitable! Open only during the summer. Year tow he transferred it into a very profitable enterprise. He created a nitch and the need for it. Cortland was a manufacturing city with more than 40 factories and many other enterprises. Many of these companies provided company picnics and clambakes for their employees. During the first winter he aggressively sold the concession as a place that could not only provide the food but also provide entertainment for the adults in a family setting with a means to occupy the kids (free rides all day) and thus out of the parents hair. For six years he successfully ran the business and then sold the concession to my uncle. He then bought three franchises for LUM'S Restaurants. I grew up in this environment.

Forward Thinking - I learned to develop business plans based on his examples. Making a business plan isn't an overnight endeavor. It takes days, weeks or more. It takes rewriting, over and over. It involves financial planning. My father always gave himself a salary. He had to budget his money for living expenses knowing that he would not get more from the business ( religiously walking the talk). Plan expansion or exit ahead of time.

Experience - Build on what you know. Build on what you enjoy. Build on your experiences with people.

Research - Learning is an ongoing process. There is no limit to where you can discover better, easier, less costly methods of operating and/or expanding your business and holdings. Forums like this is one great way to learn.

Organization - Use what you learn to improve. Question both every new idea from your research both the new and how you operate. Ask how new ideas, methods, products can help or hinder. Constantly improve - but realize that constant or continual improvement dictates constant and continual change. Decide the plus and minus of standing firm or being flexible. Always keep an open mind and solicit someone to challenge your decisions. I use my wife!

Perseverance - Self explanitory!

Steve
Reply With Quote
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
musician/lawnman's Avatar
musician/lawnman musician/lawnman is offline
Chuck
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South West Florida
Posts: 919
Rep Power: 7
musician/lawnman is on a distinguished road
Default

Intestinal Fortitude.
Most people I know would love to start a business but lack the b@lls to make that leap from dreams & plans to action.
__________________
AAA QUALITY CLEAN CUT, LLC.
LAWN CARE & LANDSCAPING
Visit us here:

  #10  
Old 03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Most people I know would love to start a business but lack the b@lls to make that leap from dreams & plans to action.
When you talk with people and they tell you they would like to start a business, what kind do they say they would like to start?

What is the most difficult part about the transition? Why can't they do it slowly on the side of what ever they are currently doing full time?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Talk about being driven Steve General Business Discussions 4 11-12-2007 05:50 PM
Turf Talk Turf Talk Introduce Yourself 4 09-24-2007 06:20 AM
We talk about this all the time I know Steve General Business Discussions 11 08-28-2007 04:47 PM
Talk about a heatwave! Steve General Talk 1 08-09-2007 10:55 AM
Talk is cheap Steve Lawn Care Marketing & Post your marketing material for review! 0 11-18-2006 12:41 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
Yesterday 06:07 PM
by 04bluesilverado
3 104
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
Yesterday 04:24 PM
Yesterday 05:55 PM
by stevef1201
3 61
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
Yesterday 04:48 PM
by avetslawncare
6 197
New to the industry-...
Lsmain
Yesterday 10:53 AM
Yesterday 10:53 AM
by Lsmain
0 51
Sod
RosalesLawnCare
08-27-2014 03:47 PM
08-30-2014 07:00 PM
by RosalesLawnCare
2 143
Lawn Route Templates
Landscaper1165
08-30-2014 01:52 PM
08-30-2014 05:04 PM
by stevef1201
1 87
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
08-30-2014 09:49 AM
by BLC7
10 373
Hello! New here and...
CaliforniaFriendly
08-29-2014 11:30 AM
08-29-2014 05:39 PM
by jrs.landscaping
1 108
Stihl engine isn't...
Marcintosh
08-12-2014 08:30 PM
08-28-2014 09:28 PM
by Marcintosh
12 510
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
by jawnebgoode
0 54
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
by kurtwin
0 74
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
08-28-2014 12:01 PM
by Steve
16 602
Lawn needs top soil What...
jymie
08-26-2014 11:01 AM
08-28-2014 11:58 AM
by Steve
5 204
Walk Behinds and Texas...
SGL1
08-26-2014 03:53 PM
08-27-2014 10:38 PM
by SGL1
5 193
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-27-2014 08:33 PM
by kurtwin
1,187 331,232
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
08-26-2014 04:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
110 6,622
How do I approach...
Bradcook21
08-21-2014 01:48 AM
08-26-2014 05:08 AM
by Billy Goat
12 501
Tender Process
M2Dave
08-24-2014 12:31 PM
08-25-2014 04:14 PM
by Steve
2 181
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 08:51 AM
08-25-2014 04:02 PM
by Steve
26 3,839
Need help pricing basic...
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:21 AM
08-22-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
2 275
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
08-22-2014 01:01 PM
by Steve
6 348
yearly contract help...
jrob0691
08-21-2014 04:09 PM
08-22-2014 12:48 PM
by Steve
1 222
Pampas bushes
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:30 AM
08-22-2014 07:17 AM
by grassdoctore
1 194
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
08-21-2014 08:50 PM
by phlawncare
2 235
Fuel Can Spouts
Shark1611
08-16-2014 09:09 AM
08-21-2014 08:23 PM
by SGL1
11 476
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
08-21-2014 05:03 PM
by stevef1201
6 740
Hello
M2Dave
08-21-2014 12:32 AM
08-21-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 200
New Landscaping Business
rekon32
08-16-2014 02:26 PM
08-21-2014 12:33 PM
by SouthallMowing
8 533
Downed Tree Chop Bid
WesleySnips
08-16-2014 03:47 PM
08-20-2014 01:44 PM
by SGL1
10 506
60 inch honda/bunton...
pblawncare
08-17-2014 11:30 AM
08-18-2014 03:19 PM
by Steve
2 252
Replacement Parts -...
nicholas-KC
08-16-2014 08:40 AM
08-18-2014 03:16 PM
by Steve
4 360
Preparing the soil
Billy Goat
08-16-2014 06:18 PM
08-18-2014 03:01 PM
by Steve
1 275
What to pay help
phlawncare
08-04-2014 08:33 PM
08-18-2014 10:33 AM
by jrs.landscaping
29 1,100
Hello
Jeff1
08-07-2014 11:18 PM
08-15-2014 11:53 PM
by Jeff1
11 564
Lie #2 RESIDENTIAL...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-06-2014 05:02 AM
08-15-2014 01:46 PM
by mattthelawnguy
54 6,676
Need help 30 HP koler...
Shady Grady
08-01-2014 03:31 PM
08-15-2014 08:46 AM
by kslawn
18 740
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
08-14-2014 02:37 AM
by BlackRain75
12 1,934
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
08-13-2014 03:29 PM
by Steve
1 365
Hello from Jacksonville,...
JM Lawn Care
08-10-2014 07:15 AM
08-13-2014 07:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
9 477
Hello everyone new to...
maddyandrays
08-11-2014 04:51 PM
08-12-2014 08:58 PM
by Shark1611
2 315
Walk behinds
hpruitcei
08-07-2014 06:28 PM
08-12-2014 02:35 PM
by mattthelawnguy
7 582
New name help
stevef1201
08-10-2014 04:27 PM
08-12-2014 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 470
my little green dilemmas
Lawn Techie
08-03-2014 11:47 AM
08-11-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
7 567
what the best...
CleanCutsLLC
08-02-2014 01:02 AM
08-11-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
6 619
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
08-11-2014 01:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
13 876
Covering all the bases
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:11 AM
08-08-2014 01:41 PM
by Steve
1 411
New from Florida
ADE
08-06-2014 08:40 PM
08-08-2014 01:32 PM
by Steve
4 478
JOB - Landscape Install...
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
by janslawncare
0 370
Battery power tools or...
Steve
08-07-2014 12:24 PM
08-07-2014 05:18 PM
by mattthelawnguy
2 377
My client just told me...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-04-2014 08:39 AM
08-06-2014 11:14 PM
by grassdoctore
12 719
» Popular Tags
4wd 34'' ads apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate birdscaping charge christmas craigslist customers estimate exmark fall ferris financing franchise gopherhaul grass gravely hardscapes hills holiday how much to charge introduction invoice labor cost landscape services late lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website leaf cleanup lesco lighting managing a lawn care business marketing mechanic mowing new and restored landscapes new buisness new business new mower patio install podcast promotion push versus ride reo riding mower scag scripts search engine optimization seo starting a business starting a lawn care business steve stihl theft theft of services tips top dresser toro tractor auger tree care walker wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy