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Old 05-23-2008, 10:39 PM
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I've got this funny feeling you won't see samples or delle again.

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Encouragement and skepticism are not mutually exclusive.
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Everyone has the freedom to visit delles website and purchase the product rather than await free samples. *Go ahead and enter your personal info and payment method.

Personally, I have reservations about doing business thru a web site that uses a flash template and false staffer names as part of their advertising. *Marta Healy, Alan Smith, and Laura Stegner do not exist. *If they are real people they work for these people too:
http://flexiwebsw.co.uk/site/index-1.html
http://www.greatstartkids.org/
http://www.harboursidemassage.com.au/index-5.html
http://www.masfg.com.au/index-1.html
http://www.thesunshack.co.uk/index-4.html

I'd like to encourage delle to work on his web site and credibility. *That should reduce the level of skepticism encountered while marketing to people with IQs over 90.



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I'd like to point out that I don't know yet if this product will work or not. I have yet to test it or hear about being tested.

It has been my experience that new businesses have a tendency to overdo certain things. If you are one person, you try to make yourself seem bigger by adding more people to your website roster.

For instance, I am reading a book now on Joe Weider, publisher of Muscle and Fitness, creator of the Mr. Olympia body building contest etc.



When he was first getting started with publishing his magazine, he used to write articles and put different peoples names as the writers, to make it look as if he had a staff of writers.

Another example of this would be how a guy would start a business and then have his wife or gf record the outgoing answering machine message to make it seem there are more people than just him working in his business.

I don't mind Eric being skeptical. I think we all tend to be until proven otherwise, I just am trying to figure out the line where creative license crosses over into fraud.

I tend to give entrepreneurs a wide berth for experimentation purposes.
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If you review this whole thread from the start, the wide berth included violations of federal law concerning trademarks and patents. *Once delle was informed of these issues, he changed the web site. *If the advertising claims are false, that is also illegal. *Should the product use active or inert chemical compounds, it has to be disclosed on the product packaging per EPA and FTC laws for consumer protection, interstate commerce and transport. *If it's sold to a contractor whos employees have to handle or apply it, then it must come with an MSDS to comply with state & federal "Right to know" laws. *This is especially important considering the claim it's killing microbes to promote improved animal and human health benefits. *The FDA might want some of this to help sterilize hospitals, or the USDA for cattle operations ya know?

PS....the terms and conditions page still references "Doggyoggy" as a registered trademark. *I guess delle still needs to edit that portion. *http://www.shop.doggyoggy.com/termsandconditions.sc

PPS..US Serial No: 77447450 which is Randelles trademark application is under the descriptive classification of the following products: Biocides, germicides, bactericides, virucides, fungicides, insecticides, pesticides and herbicides.

SPECIMEN DESCRIPTION scanned digitally photographed instruction containers; Retail Pouch containing bactericide crystals; commerce website:http://www.doggyoggy.com; product crystals/granules

It's logical to assume such product classes have active chemicals that must be disclosed.

In my humble opinion, it's a load of crap.



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Quote[/b] ]If you are one person, you try to make yourself seem bigger by adding more people to your website roster.
Steve: This is interesting. I am sure you have heard me speak before on how lawn care is a personal service. Moreso, it is a relationship you strike between you and your customer.

In my experience, customers would rather be serviced by a small, personally owned company rather than a large scale operation.

When I had people working for me, my customers loved it that I, the owner of the company, would never go more than one cycle without personally checking on the work or taking part in the work myself.

I recommend lawn care companies keep that small-time feel especially for residential customers.

Appearing big is okay if you are going after large contracts. Then again, those people aren't fooled easily. Why appear deceptive?

Honesty is a great policy.

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Hey all, im getting that "i want it now" vibe which is good and bad.. i read some very interesting points. let me see if i can clear up some for ya.

samples: im waiting on the large bags like i was told that you guys wanted (LARGE) as oppose to me my small 1 (lb) bag.

i realize there is an issue with credibility so im working with a experienced advisor that is familiar with invention products. i was informed to lean more towards veterinary feedback so im gonna see what vets they think first. i also realize i need to do more research on the type of grass it can be used on. im not going to constantly talk about trademarks and patents. lawyers often say its non of your business. u want the ingredients .. buy the product.. im following all EPA rules.... if you don't want to buy the product then "hurry up and wait" im not giving all info on a forum.. how sweet would that be

in short im working on a lot here trying to get my startup on the right path if i'm here typing all day everyday i won't get much done

i keep hearing dumptrucks with " i don't like" .. and blah blah blah. rules rules rules.. here are some examples of websites blah. your not changing the world it just reads like a person thats been scorned too many times probably spent a whole lot of money on an product nobody wants ($3000 is a bit much). all i did is build a website about my product and giving it away for free and this guy is slashing and biting and griping and crying. FOR WHAT i don't even know .. I recommend ignore buttons! re-invent that.. ill pay you for it
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When you're sitting around the conference table with your advisor, Marta, Alan, and Laura, tell them I said Hi!

How can you follow all EPA rules when you can't even follow the simplest patent and trademark rules? *Oh yeah, none of that applies to you because it's all a blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, blingblam drag. *Through your shortcuts to market, you diminish the achievement, efforts and investments of people who do follow the laws & rules. *

I'm just a killjoy crybaby because I don't buy your story. *Rather than address the points, you deflect the attention to me, while adding personal insult. *Thanks for the free psychological analysis of my overly scorned personality Doc. *Boy you really nailed me on that one, I need a free sample of whatever meds you're on.

I apologize to everyone here as a group for throwing a wrench into the finely tuned gears of delles scam. *I won't offer any more unsolicited opinions or facts that might deter unsuspecting trusting souls from purchasing bags of magical fairy crystals.
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I don't want this post to spin any further out of control.

We can start a new one.

Forums are very difficult to moderate.

We just can't attack one another. We can have discussions but we can't go further than that. Share your view point, let others share their view point but no personal attacks.

I want us all to enjoy intellectual discussions, learn and grow.
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