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[Steve]

By the way, do you wanna see something crazy? I just did a search for doggy oggy on google.com and guess what! The Lawnchat blog post I just made came up #1 and #2 on the search engine. WOW! Talk about reaching out to people! Isn't that pretty cool?

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[justin_time]

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Do you ship to Canada ?

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[delle]

Those are really good suggestions. I will extend my offer to 31st, that's for the entire month of May. Im going to start working on the door hangers this week as per your advice. Im wondering how i would get the door hangers into the hands of the lawn buiness owners and at a quantity that would make an impact.

creating a video is completely new to me. ive been curious about how to edit them. do you have a simple video editing software that you can suggest? i will start shooting next week.

i will definately consider a distributor once large shipping becomes to large to take on inhouse.

i must admit, when it comes to figures of a
lawn service business its a bit of a learning curve since i have not ran a lawn service myself. However, Im will to learn. You have given some really good advice.

[delle]

Hey, justin.. how is it going. Shipping to Canada will be available soon. still working out the cost.

thanks for your questions and suggestions.. keep it coming!

[Steve]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]those are really good suggestions. I will extend my offer to 31st, that's for the entire month of May.

Hi Dell,

Good! This will be most helpful.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ] Im going to start working on the door hangers this week as per your advice. Im wondering how i would get the door hangers into the hands of the lawn buiness owners and at a quantity that would make an impact.

I think two great ways to do it would be to put them on your site for free download and then I will put them in my free door hanger template download section too. I can also mention them in a future GopherHaul when they are ready.

You wouldn't be printing them, just creating a template with words and images that the lawn care business owner would use.

As you start playing with ideas, please post them and I will offer you some suggestions.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]creating a video is completely new to me. ive been curious about how to edit them. do you have a simple video editing software that you can suggest? i will start shooting next week.

Try the video editing software Vegas. It's pretty cheap. I look forwards to seeing what you create.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]i will definately consider a distributor once large shipping becomes to large to take on inhouse.

Good.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]i must admit, when it comes to figures of a
lawn service business its a bit of a learning curve since i have not ran a lawn service myself. However, Im will to learn. You have given some really good advice.

I would say, figure out what the largest amount is you could ship. Can you ship a 50 lbs bag? Don't worry about any fancy graphics on it. I bet you could get some bags and start offering this as a test run.

Then I would ask you, how much would it cost in your product to spread it across an entire lawn?

This is something you could easily figure out.

Find the average size of a lawn, how many sq ft? 5,000? Then give us a figure on how much the product would cost to cover that.

This would also be a great selling point to professionals.

What you want to do is show them how much they could charge and make per application.

Say the average lawn is 5,000 sq ft. and the lawn care business wants to charge $39.95 per application. How much would the materials cost to apply this? How much profit could the lawn care business make?

[musician/lawnman]

I was thinking.... Many of my pet owning customers really don't seem to care about their yard much, They are retired & don't play in it, they don't have kids in the house anymore (so now they have a dog instead to keep them company). I don't think they would hop for even an extra $30-40 a month because they don't really care. However, If you offered a concentrated version designed so we could simply spray treat our equipment after servicing a doggy lawn to minimize the transfer of bacteria to other customers who do care, we could pretty easily install an additional $3-5 per service fee to the pet owners. I could market it to them like this...

I understand Mrs. Smith that you don't oten go in your yard much so it may not be a direct concern of yours, but many of my customers that I visit after you along my route have children who do play in the yard.... I'm trying to look out for the health & well fare of all my clients & their families. Obviously I cannot charge them to cover the cost of the products required to protect them from bacteria born in your yard, So since you have chosen to have a pet & pets are causing this expense I must ask you to pay this additional fee.

We could probably keep a bottle of it & a sprayer on the trailer for quick application.

What do you thnk of that?

[Steve]

I like the idea. I'd like to see what Delle thinks too.

Chuck,

What would you have to make (profit) to make spreading this product on a lawn worth while to you per application? Based on a average sized yard. What would you feel you could potentially charge per application?

[musician/lawnman]

I don't know. I have a $25 minimum, Other than for an estimate, my trailer gate won't drop for less. So if you have use a spreader (for granual ) & the materials was only a few bucks probably around there. Now It's gotta be watered in I assume, So if they don't have sprinklers you gotta stand there with their hose..... thats time & adds money. If it's spread in a liquid form It might be faster in this case. Though I don't know if this would fall under pest control ordinances as I am not yet licensed to use such products on turf. I think he mentioned it is to be applied twice monthly.... I don't see many people jumping at an additional $50 a month to sanitize their yard & speed up the poop decomposition process. Personally I look forward to getting by business large enough that I can turn the dog lawns down & just not deal with them at all. It's gross as ####. Especially when the deck gets clogged & you gotta scoop out clumps of grass & lord knows what else you ran over. or when you hit a pile o' crap with a line trimmer...... yeah..... at those moments I can't figure out why I agreed to service these people at all.

[Steve]

Hi Chuck,

You bring up a lot of good points. I wonder if it would just be easier to spray it on with a hose and then maybe the formula could be a concentrated version that could cover more area and lighter to ship. Then the lawn care business owner could mix it on site and spray it. It might be more cost effective.

Would you need a pesticide license to spread this? That is a very good question too. Delle, you might want to look into this, this would be a huge question for a lot of lawn care business owners.

Delle, you really should consider getting a few lawn care business owners to try this out and offer this service to their customers.

Maybe pick a few lawn care business owners from our site and set them up with some free samples. Then have them help you work out the figures on how to make this concept sell to other lawn care business owners.

Then you could get some testimonials from them and that would help you sell your product further.

Let me know what you think.

[delle]

I did my research on needing a pesticide liscence.. and under:
"40 CFR 152.25(g)(l) and shown in Appendix A" lists of exemption products

and

"ERA'S policy of "commonly consumed foods"
"Products; List of Minimal Risk Inerts."


You do not need a pesticide license for my product..

Yep.. you can lick to lawn and live..

... my door hanger is created in gif. but im not sure how to up load it other than using the IB Code buttons on this forum.

chuck mentioned spraying it directly onto the lawn mower to between shifts or after a days work.. that is pretty good idea.. but, what would stop you from spraying lysol on your blades instead? i thought that the attribute that set my product apart was the natural aspect so that children and dogs don't get sick. when it comes to spraying your lawn mower blades would you really buy a natural product for that?

Both of you have hit the jackpot on the water-mix point of view... Actually in the directions it mentions that mixing with water is the economic approach. all it needs is 2 teaspoons a gallon. its really up to the users convenience how they want to spread the product.

in reference to giving a free trial. its very tempting.. ive rolled it around in my head for a bit. And i am still thinking it through thoroughly. A recap of our discussion revealed the customer can't see the actual results except maybe the lack of long puffy weeds where their dog frequented to take care of business. A free sample wouldn't help me, you or the customer if they are not interested in its benefits. i think a better idea would be to see if the customer is interested in a product by simply including a mini flyer in their invoice/reciepts. i could provide mini flyers for free because it costs me alot less to ship. to humor your suggestion, I would at least offer the product at the same price it cost to produce but, the shipping part im not enthusiastic about. Everyone is understandably skeptical to back a new product but $8.84 isn't a whole lot of risk.. lunch maybe?

let's find a middle ground

Oh Update!: have anyone typed "pet lawn care" in yahoo search page lately?.. DoggyOggy is on the first page now.

I really want this to work for everyone