Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

A decline for unions?


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-26-2006, 09:18 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,386
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Recently GM offered to buy out members of the United Auto Workers Union so they can be replaced with lower salaried workers.

Is this the end of unions as we know it in the U.S.?

How do you feel this will effect your business?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-26-2006, 10:17 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I personally feel that right now unions are bad for business. They drive up employers prices that they have to pay for unskilled labors.

My brother, whom is in plastics down in Detroit does sales for the big 3 auto makers. He has a 4 year college degree, yet these assembly line guys without an education make like $20 to $30 an hour. He has told me countless stories of where he has visited plants, and if you even pick up a piece of trash off the floor people come unglued because that work is supposed to be done by the "union" people.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-26-2006, 10:40 PM
Billz Billz is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 239
Rep Power: 9
Billz
Default

For employees to hve some representation, and rights are fine, but the modern day unions are driving the price of labor up so high, that I can see why alot of bigger "union" shops are simply closing and moving to mexico, where the standard rate of pay for a week in a factory is 600 pesos... or roughly $60.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-26-2006, 10:48 PM
kc2006 kc2006 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 424
Rep Power: 10
kc2006
Default

Unions are a good and bad thing. Good because it helps so many people get higher wages, bad because it protects idiots once in awhile that dont show up for work or are just poor employee's but the union has to fight for them.

I personally am for unions. Our country would either have to become solely an educated country with office type jobs or we would end up like other countries and alot of people would end up making hardly any money to work the "low end" jobs with no job security after that.

If unions fail, my business will suffer greatly. We have a gm plant here, if that goes down this whole area will go down. We also still have alot of steel mills and other metal works here that are union. It seems the ones that get away from unions end up going over seas a few years later...that would put this area in shambles.

I dont think the gm thing is the end of unions though. Theres still alot of people that are pro union and I haven't heard of one person out at the local plant that did the buy out yet (they'd be stupid to). I personally think this whole gm situation is BS, every financial advisor on tv so far has said gm will definitely be way up this year. I think the company is crying poor just to move all their jobs over seas because they're greedy. They cry about profit, when my dad worked there they made j-cars (cavaliers), the cost to build one was something like $1300, that included labor, all material, everything down to the penny, the rest was profit...So they can't afford to pay the workers good money for pumping out 400 cars a night, rather get rid of the unions and pay them 10 bucks an hour or get an education.
__________________
\"Every strike brings me closer to the next home run\"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-26-2006, 11:30 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,386
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Does anyone think that GM could file for bankruptcy? I had read they lost over $10 billion dollars last year.

Delphi has filed, what is stopping GM?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-26-2006, 11:47 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I think what is stopping GM is the reputation.

I can see GM though being bought out by Toyota.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-26-2006, 11:52 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,386
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

What went so wrong with GM?

Why did GM stop development of EV1?



Why is it that Toyota is the leader in hybrid technology with the Prius?



This doesn't sound like it was a union problem as it was a lack of forsight in GM planners.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-27-2006, 10:16 AM
maelawncare maelawncare is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 83
Rep Power: 0
maelawncare
Default

GM has been going down hill for a while, but so had ford and dodge. Just gm has been talkn about it more.

i personaly hate unions, yes they were good when we needed them. but now they are useless for the greater good. we all wind up paying for those higher saleries.

and i have a feeling toyota will buy out gm

oh and if we wanna fix the everything gonig over seas and being shipped here. just raise the tax tariff 200%!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-27-2006, 12:15 PM
Billz Billz is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 239
Rep Power: 9
Billz
Default

I certainly would like to see a tariff on items manufactured outside the US...even though it would mean paying more for everything. With no jobs left here all the cheap cars in the world are useless!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-27-2006, 04:46 PM
kc2006 kc2006 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 424
Rep Power: 10
kc2006
Default

I find it funny you guys are saying toyota will buy gm out when actually gm owns part (a good sized part) of toyota. *Even when it looks bad for gm...they have their hands in other companies we don't know about.

I was talking about this today with some gm employee's and my father who worked for gm for 30 years, like they've been told at the union meetings, gm told delphi not to file bankruptcy because it simply wasn't needed, but delphi brought in that Miller guy who is a known slasher of companies (look at his record, every place he's gone he's shut down). *Further more, delphi is "hurting so bad" yet they make wiring harnesses for most of the big 3, toyota, honda, the expensive exotic cars like ferrari and lamborgeini (spelling?). *It just cracks me up that they make it seem like they're so bad off, yet they have their hands in more then what we're told by the media, media wants everyone to think gm doesn't own the 30-40% of toyota that they do, and that delphi only makes harnesses for gm products. *It's all a front I say.

And to support the arguement that gm owns part of toyota, my father has personally met Toyoda (i believe that's how his name is spelled) in the past. GM used to bring him to the plants and show him and the other yota reps GM ways of building cars...Just giving competition their secrets to effeicency...or aiding their investment



__________________
\"Every strike brings me closer to the next home run\"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
This sucks...
Matther777
Yesterday 04:56 PM
Today 06:46 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 123
Scag turf tiger hydrolic...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-04-2014 10:55 PM
Today 05:59 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
11 775
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
Today 03:29 PM
by acrajchel
6 943
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
Today 11:49 AM
by Steve
23 1,301
Looking for feed back on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-17-2014 08:38 AM
Today 08:17 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
9 269
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
Yesterday 06:32 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
58 6,701
Hello from upstate NY!
A&MLawn&Snow
Yesterday 11:19 AM
Yesterday 04:10 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 128
Price to apply fertilizer
SS.Lawncare
09-15-2014 11:10 AM
Yesterday 01:16 PM
by Steve
9 380
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
09-01-2014 10:17 AM
09-17-2014 09:57 PM
by curts lawn care
4 877
new to the forum
SGlawncare
09-16-2014 11:20 PM
09-17-2014 08:29 PM
by curts lawn care
3 206
Help With Snow Blowing...
Robertf31
09-13-2014 10:55 PM
09-17-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 564
Non-Stop Summer?
SouthallMowing
09-14-2014 10:51 PM
09-17-2014 10:48 AM
by stevef1201
6 356
Tribulations of working...
stevef1201
09-13-2014 08:37 AM
09-16-2014 10:43 PM
by SGL1
6 392
Poll - net income
Dan5082
11-15-2010 08:08 PM
09-16-2014 04:44 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 3,164
Getting lowballed!
PineHillLawn
06-27-2012 07:23 AM
09-16-2014 01:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
24 4,828
Compare this summer to...
Steve
09-03-2014 12:52 PM
09-16-2014 11:20 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
15 1,052
thinking about throwing...
veteranslawncaresystems
09-09-2014 10:31 PM
09-15-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
12 749
Hello
Robertf31
09-12-2014 10:34 PM
09-15-2014 03:17 PM
by Steve
2 351
Newbie......Again
Jibber
09-13-2014 12:17 PM
09-15-2014 02:54 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 389
Replacing a Shindi T-27
Dan Tanner
09-13-2014 12:59 PM
09-15-2014 02:31 PM
by Steve
1 357
need help with starter...
GoGreenerKS
09-12-2014 04:23 PM
09-15-2014 02:25 PM
by Steve
3 366
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
09-15-2014 02:16 PM
by Steve
12 1,064
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
09-15-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 836
Employee uniforms
Gerardo_Landscape
01-21-2014 11:11 PM
09-15-2014 02:12 PM
by Steve
5 967
Greetings from the north
Northwoods Outdoors
09-13-2014 08:55 AM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Steve
1 333
darleneh
darleneh
09-15-2014 12:33 PM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 231
My 1st bid
WesleySnips
06-11-2014 03:13 PM
09-15-2014 02:05 PM
by Steve
29 1,749
New Aerator
Chaz
09-09-2014 11:43 PM
09-15-2014 01:50 PM
by Steve
9 581
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
09-15-2014 01:23 PM
by stevef1201
8 1,228
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
09-13-2014 09:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
116 8,015
getting ready to start
calebmoss
05-23-2011 09:35 PM
09-11-2014 12:21 PM
by Steve
34 11,238
Stihl pull cord replace
SGL1
09-03-2014 09:22 PM
09-10-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
9 757
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
09-10-2014 12:16 PM
by Steve
18 1,491
Lawn Route Templates
Landscaper1165
08-30-2014 01:52 PM
09-09-2014 08:05 PM
by Landscaper1165
4 980
New truck and trailer...
Johnny Rocket
05-14-2012 03:41 PM
09-09-2014 07:23 PM
by Matther777
18 6,575
What gets you bad press?
Steve
09-09-2014 11:48 AM
09-09-2014 07:21 PM
by Matther777
2 459
Signs on your snow plow?
Steve
01-15-2007 01:07 AM
09-09-2014 11:42 AM
by Steve
19 6,206
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
09-08-2014 08:08 PM
by avetslawncare
12 1,277
New to the business
flamingyouth87
09-05-2014 11:52 AM
09-08-2014 11:55 AM
by Steve
3 668
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
09-08-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
7 952
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 08:36 AM
09-07-2014 07:35 AM
by avetslawncare
24 7,744
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
09-06-2014 02:09 PM
by Bradcook21
8 1,044
billing matters
sbuchanan8154
09-05-2014 09:56 AM
09-05-2014 03:00 PM
by Steve
3 646
Thoughts
googus
09-05-2014 07:28 AM
09-05-2014 02:23 PM
by Steve
2 596
Backflow Tester
flowcheckllc.2014
09-03-2014 04:37 PM
09-05-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 688
Collections & collection...
jscarolina
09-03-2014 04:39 PM
09-04-2014 03:14 PM
by Steve
2 700
Sod
RosalesLawnCare
08-27-2014 03:47 PM
09-04-2014 02:42 PM
by RosalesLawnCare
4 955
Lawn needs top soil What...
jymie
08-26-2014 11:01 AM
09-03-2014 12:07 PM
by Steve
7 1,025
Hello! New here and...
CaliforniaFriendly
08-29-2014 11:30 AM
09-03-2014 11:15 AM
by Steve
4 934
New to the industry-...
Lsmain
08-31-2014 10:53 AM
09-02-2014 02:58 PM
by Steve
1 852
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment complex auger birdscaping blades charge christmas lighting collections credit card processing customers decorating ditches exmark ferris first truck fundraiser georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business holiday lighting how much to charge how to bid husqvarna john deere quik trac kansas city kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf leaf removal lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mulch estimate new and restored landscapes new buisness past due podcast promotion pto redmax rotating running a business savannah scag season seo small engine repair snow sprayer starting a business start up lawn care business stihl top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walker
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy