Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Never had a chance at something this big


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 10-25-2007, 10:58 PM
moseley creek
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I am going over tomorrow and I am going to walk the place. Rodman I think you just may be right on this one. I would maybe talk to them about just the section behind the school???
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:01 PM
moseley creek
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
another section
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:02 PM
moseley creek
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

last section
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:08 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,199
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

This is really an interesting point to discuss. Just to share my thoughts on it, I have seen many new businesses over expand too early and crash.

I prefer the slow and steady wins the race viewpoint. It's more stable. It allows you to make course corrections as you go.

You don't want one client you need to scale up for too fast because if they pull out, you could collapse. I don't think you should ever have one client that can make or break your business. It's better to spread the risk out to more clients than fewer.

You don't want to go into debt to buy equipment and have to rely on one client to pay it off. Because if they pull out, you will still need to pay this equipment off.

I haven't seen Troy on here lately, but if he were here, he would tell you how he got into debt buying equipment that took him over 5 years to finally pay off. For work that never materialized.

Please share with us your thoughts on this?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:08 PM
pnplawn
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] (Little's @ Oct. 25 2007,11:58)]I am not sure I would pass on this one. Opportunities like this don't come very often. Take a risk and go for it (or Gopher it!) You will never know if it is something that may make you a lot of money, or not. Say you pass, you will always wonder "what if I bidded and got that huge job?" But if you go for it, then at least you could say "it worked out awesome" or "it didn't work out, but I tried". The richest people are rich because they took those risks!
You mean "it didn't work out, I go BANKRUPT. Hey little, Do you have any understanding what it would take to CUT this much ? I mean any ideal at all? She will have to go invest right off the bat at lest $25,000 in equipment, Then have Capital to hire full times employee for least 30 to 60 days. Depends on how they pay. You just looking at BIG place to mow not looking at the financial aspect of this whole operation? what happens if these people dont pay, miss payments? Now she said they looking for new LCO cause other company not doing there job well. I always say there is 2 sides to every story. Maybe there not paying , Who knows , Im sure every client you have ever had always paid you ontime.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:15 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,199
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] ]I am not sure I would pass on this one. Opportunities like this don't come very often. Take a risk and go for it (or Gopher it!) You will never know if it is something that may make you a lot of money, or not. Say you pass, you will always wonder "what if I bidded and got that huge job?" But if you go for it, then at least you could say "it worked out awesome" or "it didn't work out, but I tried". The richest people are rich because they took those risks!
I don't want to come out as if I am promoting go for broke when I say 'Gopher it.'

I have had plenty of friends who shot for the moon on a single venture, went bankrupt and swore off business forever.

That doesn't do any of us any good.

Scaling up, building up infrastructure, step by step. Is a better way. You can catch even Donald Trump at times saying 'don't bet the ranch.' He says that because he has had friends that bit off more than they can chew and couldn't make payments on something because they didn't have the infrastructure to handle it.

I want you all to be in business for a long long time. It is rough getting started the first few years but you can make it through that time with a lot of base hits. Step by step, build your business and scale it up. Allow yourself time to mess things up. To figure out what went wrong and survive that mess up to live another day and to grow another day.

This thing we call business is a life time adventure, let's enjoy the journey.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:33 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

Why are you guys so sure it will fail? Can you be a little more negative?
Think about this.
Lets say the account would pay $10,000 per month. You make an agreement with the owner to pay 3 months up front with the remaining 9 months to be held by an escrow company to be released on a monthly basis for the remaining 9 months.
She gets the $30,000 up front to pay for the necessary equipment, some employees (30-60 employees is not necessary), etc. And she is guaranteed to continue getting paid monthly for the next 9 months.
Agreements like this are not unusual in situations such as this. I think it can be done if you use your head, a lot of common sense, and some positive support.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:48 PM
pnplawn
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

$10,000 per month would not cover her expense. Lets do some simple math. Is $10,000 just number you threw out,why you say that? Just shot one out? Lets say she needs 12 workers. Now they get say 9 hr. x that by 8 day.that is 72.00. per day x that by 6 days week, that is 432. week per person. NOW thats not say CREW Leader get paid more. now x that by the 12 employs comes to 5,184 dollars week. X that x 4 weeks 20,736 month. Now you say why she need 12 people. Did you see size that place? Just keep up that would min she need. NOW on top all that 12 people pay roll taxs workmans comp.

Shall I say anymore?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:56 PM
pnplawn
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Oh BTW not to forget, All the headaches that come with a major project like this, Home owners bitching , didnt do this did this wrong. Just will be one big pain in the ***.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

That wasn't my point. The point is she can make sure the money is there by using an escrow service to hold the money. You said- what if they dont pay, she'll go bankrupt-. There are ways to avoid that.
Of course she would have to take a close look at the properties to get a clear picture of the work needed and employees needed. No one, including myself can bid a job like this accurately using google earth. 10,000 was just a number, just like you guessing 30-60 employees.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Building credit
Matther777
Yesterday 05:20 PM
Today 06:35 PM
by Matther777
4 83
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
Yesterday 09:46 PM
Today 06:21 PM
by kslawn
3 67
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
Today 01:36 PM
by Steve
2 98
From Concord NC
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:34 PM
Today 01:30 PM
by Steve
1 51
New from Texas
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:17 AM
Today 01:29 PM
by Steve
3 120
Echo Edger 'Neutral'
WesleySnips
07-25-2014 05:28 PM
Today 01:22 PM
by Steve
2 99
Single tree, mow customer
WesleySnips
06-27-2014 10:12 AM
Today 01:21 PM
by Steve
14 617
Left handed edging with...
SGL1
07-23-2014 08:59 PM
Today 07:39 AM
by SGL1
15 317
Echo PE 266 edger
stevef1201
07-01-2014 01:28 PM
Yesterday 10:14 PM
by WesleySnips
5 340
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 01:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
80 4,636
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
Yesterday 08:16 AM
by Just for Cuts
7 184
need some help geting...
dalvan0
07-13-2014 09:28 PM
07-26-2014 04:39 PM
by BLC7
7 325
new trailer help
mattthelawnguy
07-11-2014 08:21 PM
07-25-2014 06:31 PM
by mattthelawnguy
13 493
You know it;s gonna be a...
stevef1201
07-25-2014 08:50 AM
07-25-2014 01:34 PM
by Steve
1 97
Customer letters
kslawn
07-23-2014 06:17 AM
07-25-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
5 206
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
07-24-2014 07:09 PM
by SGL1
29 1,266
Need help determining...
Jbss861
07-20-2014 02:33 PM
07-24-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
13 388
Should I ?
googus
07-22-2014 04:06 PM
07-24-2014 12:10 PM
by Steve
4 223
My First Apartment...
SSLCtn
05-26-2014 10:17 PM
07-24-2014 06:46 AM
by kslawn
15 920
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
07-24-2014 06:38 AM
by kslawn
3 223
Selling lawns like...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:51 PM
07-24-2014 06:28 AM
by kslawn
3 276
Scag new "Eliminator"......
ExtremeLawncareServices
07-20-2014 10:45 AM
07-23-2014 05:37 PM
by Just for Cuts
9 309
need professional advice...
Fiddlers_green
07-20-2014 07:21 PM
07-23-2014 12:42 PM
by Steve
3 213
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 10:20 PM
07-23-2014 12:40 PM
by Steve
15 1,417
Lawn Service back in...
LawnCareMan280
07-18-2014 09:00 PM
07-23-2014 11:48 AM
by Steve
4 249
Overspray?
stevef1201
07-21-2014 04:20 PM
07-23-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
3 159
Hello Everyone! Newbie...
SLKlawn
07-17-2014 06:22 PM
07-22-2014 01:53 PM
by Steve
6 295
Proper height for lawn
rob lederhilger
05-26-2014 08:01 AM
07-21-2014 02:53 PM
by LawnDoctor
9 673
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 12:31 PM
07-21-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
9 521
What's my business worth?
Chaz
07-16-2014 01:35 PM
07-21-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
4 304
1.5 Acre Jungle
WesleySnips
07-15-2014 05:57 PM
07-20-2014 11:31 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 619
Gopher schedule software
Ray
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
by Ray
0 197
2006 Chevy fuel pump...
KevinsLawns
07-17-2014 08:39 PM
07-18-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 191
Halfway point of year!
Steve
07-01-2014 12:08 PM
07-18-2014 11:38 AM
by Steve
14 750
I got told to leave and...
gwilson98
06-16-2014 02:07 PM
07-17-2014 11:43 AM
by Steve
16 1,070
Hey guys this is the...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-07-2014 08:23 PM
07-16-2014 08:10 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
28 796
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
07-16-2014 05:00 PM
by Just for Cuts
18 721
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
07-15-2014 05:38 PM
by icon2000
1,184 320,677
Classified Ad Template...
bcfb
06-05-2013 02:40 AM
07-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
15 3,741
Husqvarna pz 60
CDLAWNCARE
07-06-2014 06:50 PM
07-15-2014 08:53 AM
by kslawn
10 469
Lowballers
Chaz
07-11-2014 03:55 PM
07-14-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
5 382
My new side job
Sprinkler Buddy
05-10-2014 05:23 AM
07-14-2014 12:15 PM
by Steve
10 841
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
07-13-2014 10:36 PM
by GoGreenerKS
10 579
New Mower and Trailer
Chaz
06-25-2014 12:04 PM
07-13-2014 06:25 PM
by SGL1
7 591
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
07-12-2014 07:36 PM
by SGL1
21 1,914
Fuel and fuel additives
SGL1
07-06-2014 10:23 AM
07-11-2014 07:53 PM
by SGL1
15 579
Questions for a patchy...
jumcgee
07-09-2014 08:42 AM
07-11-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
1 235
toro proline blades wont...
boog
06-25-2014 06:26 PM
07-11-2014 05:28 AM
by kslawn
18 681
Contents of Marketing to...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-09-2014 05:25 PM
07-10-2014 03:23 PM
by Steve
3 333
Shindaiwa
CLB454
05-13-2014 09:04 PM
07-10-2014 03:04 PM
by Steve
14 813
» Popular Tags
4wd advertisement article marketing auger bid charge christmas lighting christmas light service courtesy call credit card processing customers decorating escrow estimate exmark ferris fundraiser gopherhaul grass gravely gravely 34" zero turn hills holiday holiday decorating holiday lighting how much to charge introduction john deere quik trac lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business book lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website leaf leaf removal lighting managing a lawn care business marketing mulch native plants new buisness new mower outdoor environments payment podcast property management company push versus ride redmax reo scag scripts search engine optimization seo snow starting a business starting a lawn care business steve stihl subcontractor theft toro trailer turfgrass consulting walker winter zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy