Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

Best grass to grow in the shade?


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Clean Lawn Clean Lawn is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 124
Rep Power: 8
Clean Lawn
Default

This is a question for all those veteran lawn professionals. I have a regular customer that is really becoming frustrated with her lawn. She has a large tree in her front lawn and cannot for the life of herself get any grass seed to take in the area around that tree. I have been told to have her use various grass seeds, watering them at least 3-5 times per day, etc... She and her husband work full time and cannot be there to water the lawn repeatedly throughout the day, so that is one factor but I would like to recommend a grass that does very well growing in the shade from this enormous tree and possible even a fertilizer that she could use along with it. Because I am a newer company I am not as familiar with the various grass seeds and fertilizer that different veteran lawn professionals have run across in their years of tending to difficult lawns but would appreciate any feedback that I could give to this client to help her get a nice lush lawn started without paying a fortune.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 09-24-2007, 04:58 PM
StartALawnCareBusiness's Avatar
StartALawnCareBusiness StartALawnCareBusiness is offline
Keith
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 731
Rep Power: 0
StartALawnCareBusiness is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Hi Clean:

Give us all a bit more info. on the type of tree. *If it's deciduous, are the leaves raked during the autumn? *This can have a great bearing on the type of grass that will take root. *Leaves alter the pH of the soil around many trees. *If you think pH is a factor, your local ag-Ex office can probably do a soil test for you...often for free when you take the sample in (don't hold me to this *) *

I have had success with Creeping Red fescue (with a mix of ryegrass) in areas like what I think you are referring to. *Creeping Red does not need constant watering. *In fact, I think you are being ill-advised from people telling you to water several times per day. *I personally think this could lead to root-rot and damage to the tree.

Also, what zone are you in. *CRF is good for my zone but it might not work for you.

Just an opinion...let's hear from others.

Keith



__________________
Start a profitable lawn care business.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-24-2007, 05:11 PM
StartALawnCareBusiness's Avatar
StartALawnCareBusiness StartALawnCareBusiness is offline
Keith
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 731
Rep Power: 0
StartALawnCareBusiness is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey Clean:

As I was walking away from my desk after the last message, I almost took a "fall" getting back here to "leave" another comment.



This customer might make for a perfect oportunity for you to try out a "be a problem solver" experiment.

Instead of selling a fert & seed job, design her a cool landscape project to go around that tree. Work in landscape fabric, mulch, strategically placed flower areas, a bird bath, a bird feeder, and a neat bench where she can sit in the shade on sunny days. Turn that ugly "can't do nuthin' with" patch into an area of beauty.

If you decide to do this, please let me know how it turns out.

Keith
__________________
Start a profitable lawn care business.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-24-2007, 05:51 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 9
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

If you are having a hard time growing just under this tree, there could be another factor. many types of trees contain a natural herbicide in their leaves. One tree in particular is the Ailanthus altissima, or the Tree-of-Heaven. This is a very wide spread tree and will be almost impossible to grow grass (or anything else) under. In fact, its herbicidal properties are so strong that scientists are working on creating an all natural herbicide from it. There are many more trees like this. Find out what type of tree it is and do a little research.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-24-2007, 10:08 PM
Clean Lawn Clean Lawn is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 124
Rep Power: 8
Clean Lawn
Default

Thanks Keith and Little's those were great posts. I really appreciate it more then my words can say. The landscape project is a great one and I am going to suggest it to my client. I know she has caught a lot of heat in the past from her neighbors (which is something she told me when she signed a contract only 2 months ago) but its an eyesore. She never asked me to do anything regarding the lawn but I was ready to suggest grass seed & fertilizer or perhaps SOD or even something else. If she and her husband like the idea perhaps even with more research on the tree which was greatly suggested by both gentlemen I can solve her problems with everything. Allowing possibly a great new landscaped project and important knowledge on her tree to increase the lush look of the rest of her lawn in the near future!
Thanks again guys your awesome!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-05-2007, 10:17 PM
UNRgrounds
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

We had a spot in a lawn, several miles off campus Im in charge of maintaining for UNR. NOTHING WOULD GROW. The guys on grounds that have done this for 30+ years couldn't get it to grow. So a nice patio and table went in. Just be lucky you don't have grass that right now, on a weekly basis as 20,000+ people walking all over it. Sigh, if I can only convince the supervisor to thatch and overseed life will be good. Until next grow season I have to deal with it.
I 2nd the idea of suggesting some type of new landscape.
Could you tell us how large of an area this is?
What part of the US do you live in?
Any adverse soil conditions such as an inbalance of pH or high amount of clay?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
I dont know what to do...
Bradcook21
06-21-2015 08:49 AM
Today 09:48 PM
by SGL1
16 2,319
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
Today 02:54 PM
by GreenWorx
13 3,306
Is it too late to do...
markty
06-16-2015 05:28 PM
Today 01:00 PM
by problem solver
9 2,120
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
Today 06:15 AM
Today 11:11 AM
by SGL1
2 74
Should I buy this Exmark...
googus
07-03-2015 09:22 AM
Today 10:23 AM
by Steve
6 196
Hi everyone
Mattw
Yesterday 05:59 PM
Today 10:18 AM
by Steve
1 58
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
Yesterday 06:30 PM
by Mattw
8 2,397
4th of July parade...
Steve
Yesterday 10:35 AM
Yesterday 10:35 AM
by Steve
0 42
Unemployment rates drop,...
Steve
07-02-2015 12:40 PM
Yesterday 10:30 AM
by Steve
4 189
Just about mid year, how...
GreenWorx
06-24-2015 07:05 PM
Yesterday 10:14 AM
by Steve
7 2,006
another newish job for me
holymoly
06-07-2015 08:34 AM
07-03-2015 02:06 PM
by American L&T
9 2,193
Before & After tree...
COREtreeservice
07-01-2015 09:20 PM
07-01-2015 09:20 PM
by COREtreeservice
0 130
Dogs
Mr. Mow
06-29-2015 02:37 PM
07-01-2015 11:28 AM
by Steve
6 1,961
Ready to learn and get...
Koley Lawn & Landscape
06-28-2015 05:16 AM
07-01-2015 11:26 AM
by Steve
8 1,941
Three Stripe Land Care...
hammr04
06-30-2015 07:19 PM
07-01-2015 11:24 AM
by Steve
1 123
Country Life Lawn Care
darleneh
06-29-2015 11:24 AM
06-30-2015 01:25 PM
by Steve
3 1,783
Rubber mulch...
avetslawncare
06-24-2015 09:28 PM
06-29-2015 09:23 PM
by Chilehead
6 1,948
Marketing ideas
xandrew245x
04-29-2014 06:35 AM
06-25-2015 07:11 PM
by GreenWorx
34 5,830
Never ending sod jobs
avetslawncare
06-05-2015 09:46 PM
06-25-2015 11:42 AM
by Steve
11 2,436
Weed and Feed Service...
mike94740
06-23-2015 05:50 PM
06-24-2015 09:56 PM
by avetslawncare
2 1,840
Trimming hedges / trees,...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
06-23-2015 07:08 PM
06-24-2015 09:59 AM
by Steve
1 1,844
Hi Everyone from Arkansas
KellyMarie
06-04-2015 04:16 PM
06-23-2015 01:34 PM
by KellyMarie
4 2,123
problems with a customer...
LawnCareMan280
06-16-2015 10:26 PM
06-22-2015 11:11 AM
by Steve
6 2,163
Please review this FREE...
markty
06-21-2015 07:42 AM
06-22-2015 11:00 AM
by Steve
1 1,866
A good commercial bid...
burtle
06-20-2015 09:09 PM
06-22-2015 10:56 AM
by Steve
1 1,940
What would you do with...
holymoly
06-20-2015 06:48 PM
06-22-2015 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 1,896
New Member just joined...
vgoleco@hotmail.com
06-19-2015 03:49 PM
06-22-2015 10:42 AM
by Steve
2 1,887
Credit Cards - What's in...
Shark1611
06-16-2015 03:04 PM
06-21-2015 07:24 PM
by Chilehead
4 1,998
Blade usage
Wolf4dk
06-16-2015 12:18 AM
06-21-2015 05:35 PM
by kslawn
4 2,007
Hello, I am new to the...
adamslawnservices
06-17-2015 08:06 PM
06-19-2015 10:28 AM
by Steve
3 1,925
First commercial bid
SGL1
06-12-2015 08:57 PM
06-18-2015 05:04 PM
by SGL1
9 2,401
Needing a website built
burtle
06-17-2015 09:02 AM
06-18-2015 11:02 AM
by Steve
7 2,084
I have been rude and...
biglee
06-15-2015 10:11 PM
06-18-2015 10:46 AM
by Steve
10 2,166
Customer keeps adding...
Mr. Mow
06-13-2015 06:22 AM
06-16-2015 10:23 AM
by Steve
11 2,431
Pass discounts onto...
burnell76
06-03-2015 06:33 PM
06-16-2015 10:02 AM
by burnell76
3 2,088
burned grass only where...
nhauto
06-15-2015 05:28 PM
06-16-2015 09:45 AM
by Steve
2 1,955
Half year mark review.
Steve
06-02-2015 11:24 AM
06-15-2015 01:04 PM
by Steve
18 2,719
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
06-15-2015 01:01 PM
by Steve
86 9,799
New Member
Bruce Fehr
06-05-2015 07:13 PM
06-15-2015 12:53 PM
by Steve
6 2,099
New to the business,...
CarefreeMowing
06-12-2015 02:36 PM
06-15-2015 12:50 PM
by Steve
1 1,984
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 11:45 AM
06-13-2015 08:48 AM
by holymoly
45 12,128
New to the forum, new to...
CarefreeMowing
06-11-2015 12:35 PM
06-12-2015 10:44 AM
by Steve
2 1,890
problems with a customer
LawnCareMan280
05-19-2015 06:28 PM
06-11-2015 10:50 PM
by stallman419
8 2,454
Website Review
Outdoordesignsknox
06-08-2015 08:44 PM
06-11-2015 09:48 PM
by Just for Cuts
13 2,354
Anyone need help? I have...
biglee
05-06-2015 12:22 PM
06-10-2015 01:45 PM
by holymoly
15 3,050
Hello from the GREAT...
gbfarmsllc
06-09-2015 11:10 AM
06-10-2015 01:29 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 1,959
Hey guys and gals, I'm...
Joeyhall
06-03-2015 03:54 PM
06-08-2015 02:15 PM
by chris2500hd
8 2,216
Mowing Bermuda...
Mr. Mow
06-02-2015 12:45 PM
06-08-2015 12:45 PM
by Steve
12 2,381
Hey Guys
PrattLandscaping
06-07-2015 06:37 PM
06-08-2015 12:23 PM
by Steve
2 1,982
Share your stolen...
SGL1
05-27-2015 09:05 PM
06-08-2015 11:54 AM
by Steve
25 2,952
» Popular Tags
advertising aerocore apartment bid apartment complex apartment lawn care estimate applying bark billy goat brushcutter blowout bush collections commercial contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems equipment rental facebook flyers foreman free advertising free lawn care hiring how to husqvarna increase customers landscape services landscaping landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave mulch new business patio install per hour charge plowing pricing profit on employee scag secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shell shreaded small engine repair snow plowing sq ft square foot steep lawns swzt trailer trailer mate pro tree tree pics trimmer rack web design website website design winterization wood
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy