Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??

Symbiot payment problems


Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-08-2006, 07:03 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I saw this post and thought I would pass it on. Good information. I am sorry Mike ran into these problems with Symbiot. If he has any further insight, I hope he can please share it with us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] ] Does Symbiot/ SMG still owe you money?
Hello All - I want to keep this as positive as possible....If you truly want to try to help put this to rest and steer others away from what we all have gone through for several years then please respond and keep it professional.

We had contact with Matt Glover in Hartford, CT and it was the same old song and dance, lies and deceit.....

As you all know Symbiot Business Group has dissolved the Symbiot Snow Network LLC. on June 12th, 2006 leaving all of us holding the bag. I am sure any assets that remained were 'slid' into another branch of the business. Symbiot continues to sell snow and are actively trying to recruit new subs. Do not fall victim to this plan!



Following through with my commitment to spend 15-30 minutes a day on this Symbiot issue:

I am requesting that anyone who is owed money from Symbiot/ SMG email me at symbiotfraud@northcountrysnowplowing.com

If you know anyone who is owed money please have them contact me also.

I am requesting Company Name and Address, Contact Name and Number, Amount owed and by whom (SMG or Symbiot)

If you have any time please contact any Symbiot P3 partner and explain to them why you and your colleagues will not conduct business with their company as long as they are affiliated with Symbiot. Then follow through!! …and close your accounts!

I would like to have this information ready in the event that we move against Symbiot and to make the public aware of Symbiot's business practices. Thank you for your time and cooperation.

Michael Merrill
NCSAIM
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 11-08-2006, 10:50 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
It was too bad that they took a great company that John Allin(sp) built, and turned it into cr@p. At least John is doing the Snow Dragon stuff now though
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-09-2006, 02:27 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I think this was a business built on a house of cards. Too much debt brought everything down.

In theory the idea sounded good. Have one large national company bid on jobs across the country and then sub them out but I guess in practice it wasn't feasible.

It has got to be very difficult to work with so many sub-contractors and get paid then pay everyone on time.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-09-2006, 06:16 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

That is very true. I also think though that the new owners of the company, when they bought it from John Allin, screwed around with things too much. Like they moved the main office from New York out to Utah. After that happened John quit.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-09-2006, 07:40 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

When they bought it from John, was the region he handled nationwide or was it mainly in the PA area?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:24 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

With John, it was called Snow Management Group....if I remember correctly. I thought that they did a lot of work nationwide. Took care of the Olympics in Utah among other things.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:25 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Article

Here is one article that I found about the merger
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:27 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Money Earnings

He was number two on this list
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:28 PM
tiedeman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Snow Dragon


This is what John does now
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:34 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Good stuff! I sure hope he wasn't paid with stock from the Symbiot group!

Did John start this new company from scratch?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 05:07 PM
Today 09:46 PM
by Just Cuts
10 282
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 09:36 AM
Today 04:33 PM
by stevef1201
38 9,882
Stander Vs. Zt
totalscape
Yesterday 07:57 PM
Today 04:26 PM
by stevef1201
4 91
Ideas on a large bid
Knaubone
Today 11:57 AM
Today 11:57 AM
by Knaubone
0 36
what do you "love" to...
calebmoss
07-06-2011 10:05 PM
Today 12:52 AM
by rmccutchan
31 9,050
I'm BACK!
SuperiorPower
12-16-2014 11:08 PM
Yesterday 11:33 PM
by SuperiorPower
7 260
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
12-19-2014 09:45 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
189 16,753
Georgia Boys!
Chilehead
12-18-2014 10:23 PM
12-19-2014 09:36 PM
by Chilehead
2 120
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 08:15 PM
12-19-2014 07:48 PM
by SuperiorPower
9 361
Hello from Md
homey
12-17-2014 06:55 PM
12-19-2014 06:00 PM
by homey
5 209
Has Obamacare helped or...
Steve
12-18-2014 04:37 PM
12-19-2014 05:43 PM
by stevef1201
3 145
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 02:56 PM
12-17-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
23 3,017
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 09:51 AM
12-17-2014 09:40 AM
by SuperiorPower
34 6,167
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
12-17-2014 09:13 AM
by SuperiorPower
15 1,374
New to Gopher Haul-from...
323k13l
12-12-2014 10:34 PM
12-15-2014 02:58 PM
by Steve
3 336
hi
creteland
12-12-2014 09:06 AM
12-15-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
5 325
New addition to my small...
googus
12-12-2014 07:36 PM
12-15-2014 07:47 AM
by googus
4 401
Ferris IS700Z
rmccutchan
12-14-2014 01:10 AM
12-14-2014 11:41 PM
by rmccutchan
4 299
Charge what the market...
Billy Goat
12-09-2014 12:39 PM
12-14-2014 06:39 PM
by biglee
20 844
Hi from IL
steveinil
11-25-2014 02:07 PM
12-12-2014 07:18 AM
by steveinil
4 844
Utility Company Right of...
eastsidelandcare
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
by eastsidelandcare
0 307
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
12-11-2014 04:50 PM
by eastsidelandcare
33 4,143
suggestions on full lawn...
Brian3137
12-10-2014 07:18 PM
12-11-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
6 425
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 11:20 PM
12-11-2014 09:43 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
18 3,427
Hello from SW FL!!
5StarLawnscaping
12-05-2014 02:35 PM
12-10-2014 02:45 PM
by WesleySnips
7 671
Echo pb200 blower fuel...
googus
12-06-2014 09:03 PM
12-09-2014 06:35 PM
by Steve
3 520
Are you prepared for the...
Steve
12-02-2014 04:13 PM
12-09-2014 06:22 PM
by Steve
7 940
Email Address Name
Just Cuts
12-07-2014 09:49 PM
12-08-2014 03:15 PM
by Steve
3 464
Inspection form
stevef1201
12-07-2014 10:38 AM
12-08-2014 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 465
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
12-08-2014 12:37 PM
by jrs.landscaping
108 34,272
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
12-07-2014 06:35 PM
by stevef1201
24 1,760
Innovation by mandate
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 01:33 PM
12-06-2014 03:27 PM
by SGL1
12 1,008
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 10:07 PM
12-05-2014 11:06 AM
by Steve
9 2,304
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
12-04-2014 01:32 PM
by stevef1201
15 1,491
How many hours is too...
Just Cuts
12-04-2014 09:00 AM
12-04-2014 01:02 PM
by Just for Cuts
6 650
Does this sound like a...
googus
12-03-2014 07:47 AM
12-04-2014 12:37 PM
by Steve
5 730
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
12-04-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
14 1,263
New website
SGL1
12-02-2014 10:55 PM
12-03-2014 11:17 PM
by BLC7
19 898
Websites, how long...
Dan Tanner
03-09-2014 08:29 AM
12-03-2014 11:12 PM
by SGL1
21 3,284
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 11:04 PM
12-03-2014 10:36 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
8 1,904
GPS trackers for...
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:09 PM
12-03-2014 07:17 PM
by Steve
8 747
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
12-03-2014 06:31 PM
by SGL1
17 1,493
Hiring Subs over Temps
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:26 AM
12-03-2014 01:24 PM
by Steve
3 671
Thanksgiving cards
Steve
11-10-2008 11:57 AM
12-02-2014 11:11 PM
by SGL1
11 9,563
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
12-02-2014 02:17 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 1,523
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 07:13 PM
12-02-2014 08:47 AM
by SGL1
6 1,544
old contracts
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 11:10 AM
12-01-2014 11:20 AM
by Steve
3 738
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
12-01-2014 10:54 AM
by Steve
9 1,315
Lawn care truck
Steve
10-10-2009 03:40 AM
12-01-2014 10:45 AM
by Steve
32 15,226
Intuit Quickbooks...
CDLAWNCARE
11-30-2014 10:19 AM
11-30-2014 10:19 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
0 648
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment complex auger bark billy goat brushcutter blades care charge christmas collections edging employee problems equipment rental estimate foreman four wheel drive gopherhaul gravely growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills holiday husqvarna jobs john deere quik trac labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lighting lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mowing mr dave mulch mulch estimate new buisness new mower ordinance past due per hour service podcast pto push versus ride running a business savannah scripts search engine optimization seo shreaded small engine repair snow sprayer starting a business toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack truck new used landscape turfgrass consulting up sell employee won't return wood
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy