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Old 11-05-2011, 07:58 AM
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Just saying "hi".

I'm doing the due diligence, costing and profit assessment that is needed before making the decision to move away from a technology-related business into something that will get me out into the fresh air, using my body and some interesting machinery to make a living, however, still needing to kiss clients' backsides (a commercial necessity).

I won't be posting much because this forum is mostly relevant to the USA. I'm based in Sydney, Australia. There are many legal and other differences between Australia and USA for garden guys, lawn maintenance specialists and all the other flavours that make up those who are called "Lawn Mower Man" but who are really so much more.

My ambition is mostly to learn from the wisdom and experience of the other esteemed members of this forum and their commercial sense and client-management skills, and Godwilling, give back some experience and ideas to help new guys when I have earned my stripes.

Cheers - OziGardenGuy.

NB - We Australians tend to refer to ourselves as "Ozzi", not "Ossy". Something seems to get lost in the translation.
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I'm doing the due diligence, costing and profit assessment that is needed before making the decision to move away from a technology-related business into something that will get me out into the fresh air, using my body and some interesting machinery to make a living
Are you looking to buy into an existing lawn care business or start your own from scratch?

What have you been finding so far as you do your due diligence?
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:19 AM
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Hi, thanks for having me.

Looking to expand to include snow removal. (have done it more as a result of being asked to do.)

Lots of people here have plows, not looking to do that route.

Looking to focus on driveways , walkways , steps

as well as sidewalks.

I currently have G L in the amount of 2mil aggr

In the process of business planning.

Not looking to invest thousands and thousands.

But want to focus on affluent developments. (Lazy people)

Need to get involved with centers of influence.

Your feedback is appreciated and respected.
thanks again for having me.

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Hi Steve

I'm planning to go it alone, and grow a business either to keep or sell off later.

Franchises here in Australia run at least $30K, and some don't have a good name among consumers, so no matter how good you are it would mean that you're already fighting an uphill battle against market perception. Besides, to me, paying someone else for a job isn't a good bet because you have to accept their way of doing things as part of the franchise contract, so freedom is about the same as working for someone else. Not my idea of fun.

The due diligence process is all about costs (assets, repairs and maintenance, probable MTBF/MTFF hours, consumables) and profits, marketing, guesstimated statistical results and the like. I'm just analysing it the same way I have done for companies I've worked for: account for all costs and time, value those accordingly, then add a 'fudge factor' to increase costs by say 20% and see if it still can work.

In the target locale, the average housing lot varies between about 500 square metres and around 1100 or so square metres (i.e. about a little less than 3/16ths of an acre and a bit over a quarter acre), with the house being about 120 - 250 square metres (roughly 1200 sq. ft - 2500 sq. ft) so most mowing is walk-behind or SP 20" and similar.

Similarly, the clientele are between lower and upper middle class with some very well off and some doing just OK. Property values range between about $600K and a few million or more (average value of a house for all of Sydney is about $630K) within a 15 km (10 mile) radius. Thus, the marketing needs to be adjusted to suit the demographic of each suburb or area, so that's just a little more work and design time in the pre-launch period.

So far, the whole idea looks to be fairly agreeable with a moderate profit and there is no need to low-ball quote to win work - just play a good and fair game.

Looking forward to learning more about the biz from the forum members and your good self.

Cheers - OziGardenGuy.
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This is really fascinating! You certainly are putting in a lot of time to make sure this new business of yours gives you the returns you want. I look forwards to your updates to hear what your next moves are. Please keep us posted. It will also be very interesting to hear how your actual figures compare to your estimated figures, once you get started!
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This is really fascinating! You certainly are putting in a lot of time to make sure this new business of yours gives you the returns you want. I look forwards to your updates to hear what your next moves are. Please keep us posted. It will also be very interesting to hear how your actual figures compare to your estimated figures, once you get started!
If a new guy examines how long a machine can last, conservatively, and take into account the buy price for it and its maintenance costs and relative down-time, as well as off-season nil-production, this business is a no-brainer.

No-brains other than accurate and correct bids, excellent customer service, humility and wisdom about what is said to clients and the purpose of any conversation, commercial tenacity better than a lawyer in negotiations, precision and certain confidence in proposing add-on services... and the list goes on.

Me choosing this business as my life-style? Yes, I'm in. Recommending it to others? No. Why? The balance between commercial, marketing, legal and actual performance is a very fine balance. I'm sure many can do it, but if one part is out of check then the whole game can come unstuck and very, very quickly.

Mow'n'blow guys - go find another quickie deal. You may think you made a profit on a $20 job, but you really made a much bigger loss if you do your numbers correctly (your time, machine time, consumables, transport, etc, etc, etc). Break one window pane with a rock flung by your mower or line-cutter?in the lawn and your profits are already in the weeds for at least the next five jobs, or time in jail if you don't pay up for the damage.

Professional Lawn and Garden Men? Yes. You really are professional.

Cheers - OGG.
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When you look around at other businesses you see in the area, where do you feel most of the mess up with? Which part or parts of what they have to balance do you feel is most often unbalanced?
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Hello, New to the landscaping buisness. Two of my nieghbors were fed up with their present lawncare service so I took the work. Presently I only have two accounts but would like to grow my buisness part time. This site has tons of info for the new guy .Thank you.
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Welcome to our forum!

That is great you are already up and running! Now maybe you can see if they can refer you other customers or you can find more neighbors in your area that are fed up with their current lawn care service providers.
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