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Old 07-07-2014, 08:23 PM
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Hey guys this is the Missus, I am logged in as my hubbie. We just started our lawn service not too long ago and I find this forum to be invaluable for us as newbies. My hubbie has lots of experience mowing with his father when he was young (we are middle aged now). We are using the Lawncare business to reinvent ourselves after burnout in our previous careers as catastrophe property adjusters.

We have a slight dilemma ... we have two push mowers (one is down), and a regular riding mower (42 inch cut) ... the dilemma is that we want to get another push mower since most of our recurring accounts are small (under 5000 SF); however, we have been able to gain one-time much larger cuts (up to 10K SF) because of the riding mower.

Of course, my hubby let's me ride as he weed eats, or if the lawn is small I push,-mow, and he weed eats. I want a zero turn, though, and he wants another push mower. We are both in agreement that the zero is needed eventually, but funds are really tight as our season will only last about another 3 months and we do not want to spend too much money on equipment when we still have to live now and through the winter.

The extra push mower would give him the ability to help me when he is done weed eating, and, of course would be available in case the other mower goes down.

Okay, so what's the dilemma? ... Do we get a push or another ride? If we get a ride, he wants to get a used regular ride (not zero turn). I think we should not get the ride if it's not going to be a zero turn. I believe we should just wait until we are financially able to get the zero and leave the ride out altogether as we can still do moderately large lawns with the push and ride together. However, I do not want to get another push as this seems like a waste when we are going to be going after bigger lawns and commercial lawns now that we are licensed, bonded and insured. What do you all think???

By the way, we hardly ever see any of the professionals with push mowers on their trailer. Do you guys not do small lawns? It seems like overkill to put the rider on the small lawns. Okay, I have so many questions, I could go on and on, maybe I will start another thread LOL!

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I personally don't use the zero turn for anything smaller than 1/2 acre jobs and couldn't justify buying one for 1/4 acre jobs.

Yes, I occasionally bring a small push mower, mostly because a lot of properties here have drainage areas that I'm not comfortable bringing the big equipment into.

My suggestion is if either of you are capable of keeping up (meaning walking fast), a 48" walk behind can do a 1/4 acre in 5-10 minutes taking your time and can be bought used relatively cheap.
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Have you looked at walk behind mowers in the 30-36" range? They are small enough to get into a smaller lawn but you could do the larger one-timers also especially if you where in the 36's and had a sulky to ride.
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I agree with Cuts. A 48" Wb would be a great addition to your business and you would be fine on the small lawns and also be able to do the larger lawns as well.
It is a lot more versatile than a riding mower(non ztr) and you cold upgrade to a 48" or even a 52" ztr later.
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Gravely (others) make a great 34 inch commercial machine. Here it's about 5 grand. Great for small yards, small gates etc. Zero turn, fast, great cut, and can do up to 1/2 acre yard with no problem. (Over 1/2 acre use a bigger deck)
Better than a push (less fatigue), more productive, and you can do more yards there by make more money.
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Thanks guys, you all help a lot. I will talk it over with my hubbie. These are great solutions.

We just picked up another account with a back yard that has a small gate. No way to put the riding mower back there. I think that bigger deck push mower might be out of range financially for us (if it's over $2K), so I am still on the fence with getting a small push mower. The two we have are 21 inches each (remember one is down, though).

Where else can we look besides Craigslist, the name brands, and the big box stores like Home Depot or Lowes? Big box and name brand manufacturers seem too expensive and Craigslist has limited supply. We want to stay under $2K if possible. Our accounts are trickling in, but we have to pay our normal bills so our budget is really low right now.

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but funds are really tight as our season will only last about another 3 months and we do not want to spend too much money on equipment when we still have to live now and through the winter.
What would be the budget you have to work with to buy another mower?

Are there any updates on which way you are leaning?
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I agree with the others on the WB. Sell the rider and buy a quality WB with a sulky. This will also fix your hill issue in your other thread and most likely increase productivity by 30% or more.
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What is the benefit to a lawn tractor type mower? Why does the design continue to sell? Even for homeowners, what is the benefit of that style over a ztr?
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What is the benefit to a lawn tractor type mower? Why does the design continue to sell? Even for homeowners, what is the benefit of that style over a ztr?
Ya know I don't know for the life of me why people, even home owners don't use zero turns. They make zero turns for every application, residential and commercial alike.
I haven't used a rider with a steering wheel since I was about 10 years old i think... My very first riding mower was a Snapper with a rear engine and a like a half moon type of steering wheel ... lol
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