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Old 01-10-2008, 08:00 PM
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Just wanted to put it out to all you new guys in the business - do yourself a favor, be legit!! Part of running a successful business means registering your vehicle as commercial, and also paying state sales tax. As most of you do, our community is overrun with scabs!! This year, we are taking a stand! Our trucks will all be outfitted with digital cameras, to photograph anyone without placards on the truck or commercial tags. Most of the time these guys are working for cash, not paying sales tax or insurance. Ever time I see an unlettered truck, I think about how they are taking money out of my kids college fund. I urge all the guys who haven't taken a paycheck in order to pay insurance, or commercial registration, or sales & use tax to make a stand. Turn these low lifes in. The only ones they are hurting is the legitimate guy!!! Im sure the good, no great guys at Gopher will be all so willing to lend a hand and put you guys in touch with the IRS website where you can turn these scumbags in. Good luck and hope you all have a great 2008 season.
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Will you be able to show us some pictures you will be taking?

Also how will this work, are you going to pay your staff to take pics of such lcos? Will you be paying them some kind of bonus if they catch a good photo?

What kind of placards must you have in your area?
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Great enthusiasm! *Unfortunately, it may be a bit misplaced.

In Georgia, we're not required to have any kind of placards on company owned vehicles. *In fact, you can have all necessary licensing, certifications and insurance to run a legitimate business and do it with a pair of scissors out of the back of a '73 Pinto if you want. *I agree that the people who AREN'T legit are on ly taking good money from us legit guys by lowballing, back dooring and generally just lying... but how can you always tell them from the legit guys who are just trying to save a buck by not having signage on their vehicles? *

One of my best friends is an LCO... legit from the ground up... does AWESOME work... and makes good money doing it... *He and I had a long talk about the lawn care industry just the other day... we were talking about this very thing... people who take their push mower around and lowball the actual LCOs... I said that something has to happen to help us guys out... he said, "You know, Patrick... just being a good, honest businessman... doing the very best job that you can... not over pricing... and providing all necessary documents when requested will make you 1000 times better than those guys... sure, they may take 10 lawns at $20 a pop, but do you REALLY want those jobs? *Do you really want to be hired by people who will ALWAYS try to get something for cheaper... or free? *...do you really want to be hired by people who will NEVER be satisfied, whether it be with your services, your prices or both?"

Just remember this.... in business, it's best to look out for your own rather than try to run down the back-door lowballers... it's just not worth the time.... as we all know.... *(say it with me...)

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Good points Patrick.

I was also wondering, but I am not sure, do some states allow you to register your vehicle as a commercial vehicle with regular license plates? I thought some do. So if that were the case, how would you tell if they truly were registered as commercial?

Maybe some communities require you to show a lawn care license number on your vehicle, but I don't think all communities have laws on this?
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Like I said, Georgia requires no special markings to show that a vehicle is a company owned vehicle. You have regular tags... you don't have to have any special placards or anything.

I have never even heard of such a law in any state.... although, I've never worked in any other state (except when I was in the military).
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OK FIRST OFF I DONT CHARGE SALES TAX I PAY MY TAXES ON EVERY THING I BUY SO THE STATE GETS TAX FROM ME ANYWAY ...GAS WEEDEATER STRING. TRASH BAGS EVERY THING PLANTS MULCH SO ON .........AS FAR AS HAVING ALL THAT CRAP ON YOUR TRUCK. *I DONT HAVE ANY I DONT WANT PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL OUT INFRONT OF ME BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE GOING TO GET PAYED .......I STILL HAVE COMERCIAL INS. BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMPANYS I *WORK FOR MAKE ME ......AND NOT EVERYONE CAN JUST PUT DOWN $600 FOR COMERCIAL AUTO PLUSE $600 FOR 1,00000 GIN .........i GET PAYED CASH ALL THE TIME I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE IRS IF I DONT HAVE TO WHAT FOOL WOULD SCREW THEM MONEY SUCKERS. * I REPORT WHAT GOES INTO MY BANK. CREDIT CARDS AND CHECKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! #### IN NOT TELLING THEM ABOUT THE 60$ CASH I MADE OF SOME FAST TRIM JOB THAT STRIP BAR MONEY. *NOW THE GUYS OUT THERE THAT CAME HERE ILLEGALLY THATS WHO WE NEED TO STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Quote[/b] (Team Gopher @ Jan. 10 2008,10:49)]Good points Patrick.

I was also wondering, but I am not sure, do some states allow you to register your vehicle as a commercial vehicle with regular license plates? I thought some do. So if that were the case, how would you tell if they truly were registered as commercial?

Maybe some communities require you to show a lawn care license number on your vehicle, but I don't think all communities have laws on this?
fyi , in ohio you must have commercial plates on your truck , don't go out of your way to look for guys like that let your local police find them , and they will i seen it happed last year to a guy mowing with out commercial tags or lic.... so be safe get them , and pay your taxes.
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Quote[/b] ]OK FIRST OFF I DONT CHARGE SALES TAX I PAY MY TAXES ON EVERY THING I BUY SO THE STATE GETS TAX FROM ME ANYWAY ...GAS WEEDEATER STRING. TRASH BAGS EVERY THING PLANTS MULCH SO ON .........
When you file your taxes at the end of the year, you still have to pay taxes... if you're not charging sales tax on your goods and materials, then you're losing more money than you think.

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Quote[/b] ]AS FAR AS HAVING ALL THAT CRAP ON YOUR TRUCK. *I DONT HAVE ANY I DONT WANT PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL OUT INFRONT OF ME BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE GOING TO GET PAYED .......
I don't think this happens as much as you're thinking it does....

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Quote[/b] ]I STILL HAVE COMERCIAL INS. BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMPANYS I *WORK FOR MAKE ME ......AND NOT EVERYONE CAN JUST PUT DOWN $600 FOR COMERCIAL AUTO PLUSE $600 FOR 1,00000 GIN .........
Depending on your local laws, you don't necessarily have to have commercial insurance on a vehicle that you use for work.... and by GIN, I assume you mean GLI (General Liability Insurance)... but let me tell you something important, too... if you DON'T have commercial auto insurance on your vehicle, then you may not be covered for everything... for example... if you're driving and get into an accident, you and your equipment are covered by your auto insurance... if you're working with your equipment, then you're covered by your GLI... BUT... if something happens while you're loading/unloading your equipment, you are NOT covered... check with your insurance provider.... they will most likely tell you the same thing...

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Quote[/b] ]i GET PAYED CASH ALL THE TIME I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE IRS IF I DONT HAVE TO WHAT FOOL WOULD SCREW THEM MONEY SUCKERS. * I REPORT WHAT GOES INTO MY BANK. CREDIT CARDS AND CHECKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! #### IN NOT TELLING THEM ABOUT THE 60$ CASH I MADE OF SOME FAST TRIM JOB THAT STRIP BAR MONEY.
NOW you're just talking crazy... if you're not reporting ALL your earnings to the IRS, then you're doing business illegally... *I'll tell you right up front... that's WRONG and you WILL eventually be caught. *Do things right, my friend. *Report your earnings... ALL of them... then pay yourself and go to the strip bar all you want.

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Quote[/b] ]NOW THE GUYS OUT THERE THAT CAME HERE ILLEGALLY THATS WHO WE NEED TO STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....if you're not playing by all the rules... reporting all your earnings... paying all your taxes, then you may be just as bad as they are.

Harsh words, I know... but that's just the way I feel about it.



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Not harsh at all, it's just the truth!
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I operated for nearly a year without my license .and working on two years with out gli. by the end of the week i will be fully insured.
when i started i started full time and all of my revenue had to go towards my house hold needs.
just because you don't have lots of money to come out of the door with all your licenses and insurance doesn't necessarily make you a lowballer or a scab.
I work hard to grow my business and file all of my income at tax time accurately with no cheating.
Is Quick & Clean lawn care a low ball company?
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