Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Getting Commercial accounts


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-17-2005, 03:36 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,701
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

This article was put together thanks to Richard Murphy of Landmark Design LTD, Matt Ruesch of Matthew’s Lawn Service, Mark Witcher of Specialty Lawn Care, Andrew Harrigan of NV Lawn Specialists, Dan J. of Mastercare Lawnscape, and Jason Hisch, the president of Groundskeeper Turf Mgt. Inc.. Thank you for all your insight.

Getting Commercial accounts without commercial references



When you know that property is out for tender, bid on it and show interest, let them know a five year plan, and how you can improve the current landscape, even just by implementing a weed control and fertilizing program.

Property managers don't rely on experience (most of the time) they want someone that can adapt to their ways. *You might be working for the property manager, but they are working for hundreds of people, at just one address.”

Matt Ruesch of Matthew’s Lawn Service suggested to get your start with small commercial properties. “If you have any friends, relatives that work at a small commercial building see if you can get some kind of reference to do the job. I was also asked about references from commercial properties when all I had was residential. I told them I have been doing it for a while, worked for other companies servicing commercial, and have just started out on my own. Gave them the choice to sign a two week agreement so they can get a feel for the kind of work I do before being committed to a full year. Take pictures of bigger residential jobs and show them to potential commercial jobs. I guess just sell yourself, show confidence that you can perform good quality work.”

Mark Witcher of Specialty Lawn Care said “From my own experience I have found that most larger clients want someone with a proven background in large properties. As stated by others, you need to start with the smaller commercial properties and build a client base and resume. My company specializes in large retail complexes and apartment complexes now. But we didn’t start there. We first did banks, restaurants, retail stores and similar sites that were under 1 acre in size. You just can’t expect an owner to hand over a contract for services worth $30,000 or higher to someone who has never done anything larger than a $50 lawn cut. They want to be sure that the contractor will have the experience, manpower and equipment to handle a job of this size. We all have to start at the bottom and work our way up.”

Andrew Harrigan of NV Lawn Specialists “And to expand on what Mark said, you can get your foot in the door with the "low-end" commercials by knowing your residential customers a bit. Odds are you have customers on their HOA board, customers that are in decision-making roles at their jobs, customers that are also business owners. If you let them know you're looking to get into the commercial market, they might be more than happy to give you a shot.”

Dan J. of Mastercare Lawnscape located in Shelby Twp., MI added ”Not trying to be redundant, but start smaller first has been the advice. How do you do that?

1. Networking. This is a scary term for some, but it means that you use every contact you can think of to get a job! If you have friends or family, you have a job that's yours for the asking. My brother works in the offices of a machine shop. I just asked him to see if his boss would accept a bid. Now I'm cutting the lawn. Who cuts the grass where your family works? Are they part of a HOA? Kid brother who waits tables at a local restaurant? The guy who cuts your hair? The gas station near your house? Does your accountant have an office building? Your dentist? The list is endless. IF you start writing a list of contacts you know, and where they work (small places are best) you'll come up with an impressive list of opportunities. Very few small companies will turn down the offer for you to submit a bid. What do they have to lose?

2. Once you get a handful of these jobs and prove yourself. Contact the decision-maker and ask if they've been happy with their service. I assume the answer will be yes. Then all you need to do is thank them for their business and ask if it'd be okay to list them as a reference. Why would anyone say no? Now you have experience and references.

3. Now you go into an industrial park with tons of small businesses. Some small, some large. Send a letter addressed to "maintenance dept." Even if they don't have one, they'll get it to the right person. Simply send them a letter describing your company and services. Tell them you'll be in the area next season, and may I submit a bid. Put a tear-off on the letter where they can answer "Yes, please submit a bid....and give a place for name and phone." And, put the box there for them to check off "No, we're not interested in looking for a better service provider at this time." Most people like me hate cold calling. You'll get plenty of people willing to accept a bid. It might cost you a few bucks in postage (I would include return envelope). But, lawn care is usually last on the business owners mind. Don't ask for a phone conversation or face to face quite yet. They have other things to attend to. The letter is not an "in your face sales pitch" and leaves an opportunity to say no. People will be interested from your letter, and they'll give you a name and number to call. This prevents you from wasting time getting by secretaries, and harassing people who don't want to talk. There's plenty of work out there....go after those who want to talk with you!”

Jason Hisch, the president of Groundskeeper Turf Mgt. Inc., told us “In order to sell large commercial accounts or what we call (HVCP) meaning Highly Visible Commercial Properties. First, you need a photo on a postcard displaying your equipment line (fleet of mowing equipment) along with your employee's and a bit of info about your company. Second, you need to follow up and follow up. Touch base and re-touch base. (litter the city with your signs) Don’t be afraid to continue to call upon them year after year. It usually takes six times of talking with someone before they are willing to meet with you. Third, know your stuff, meaning your Industry. Just a little bit of Turf grass knowledge will put you leaps and bounds above the common competitor. Lastly, become full service, these type of clients need someone with extensive knowledge in areas of sprinkler systems, lawn Care, shrubbery work, and Lawn maintenance and snow plowing. If you don’t or can’t provide these services get there, because if these clients are your hope for the future then you need the above skills. Also, I disagree about working your way up through the ranks. Yes, that is the common place, but Lebron James's exist in Lawn Care also.”

Wow! Now that is some amazingly insightful information for those who are making the jump from servicing residential properties to commercial. By taking this powerful information from these business owners in the know, you can get your company to break out of this catch-22. Good luck to you and let us know if this article helped. Remember, you can make it happen. Dream it, build it, Gopher it!
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 02-22-2005, 08:31 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,701
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tips
There was an error in our article. Jason Hisch is the President of Greenskeeper not (Groundskeeper) Turf Mgt. Inc..

Very sorry about that Jason.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-11-2005, 08:10 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,701
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Great News! This article was published in the April 2005 edition of Irrigation & Green Industry Magazine.

Thanks to all the forum members who helped in creating this article.

__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Selling Truck, Aerator,...
ConvLawncare
Yesterday 02:47 PM
Today 06:17 AM
by LawnBoy0311
3 97
30 in toro time master...
LawnCareProfessional
Yesterday 04:29 PM
Today 05:59 AM
by LawnBoy0311
16 207
Need some advice!
berryjam
Yesterday 07:37 PM
Today 05:51 AM
by LawnBoy0311
2 66
Ethanol free gas
jymie
05-22-2013 11:17 PM
Yesterday 11:25 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
3 111
Description and Benefits...
precisiongreens1
04-15-2013 05:07 PM
Yesterday 10:15 PM
by Hedgemaster
7 965
Spider Mites?
Jack Rabbit
04-11-2013 09:29 PM
Yesterday 10:05 PM
by Jack Rabbit
8 850
crossroads
djm2013
03-17-2013 08:43 AM
Yesterday 09:10 PM
by djm2013
52 4,306
me myself and my scag...
westlawn
Yesterday 08:32 PM
Yesterday 08:48 PM
by wat5150
1 58
36" Bunton Walk Behind...
LawnCareProfessional
05-22-2013 04:36 PM
Yesterday 07:40 PM
by willshome
4 180
lol, 2012 video I never...
CHEESE2009
05-21-2013 02:23 PM
Yesterday 07:07 PM
by Matther777
7 216
How to move a small tree...
huebneroutdoor
05-22-2013 05:29 PM
Yesterday 06:51 PM
by Matther777
4 67
Yeah, but where the...
Hedgemaster
04-16-2012 09:35 PM
Yesterday 05:41 PM
by myblacktruck
26 3,809
Help with my Stihl Line...
cutnuplawnservice
05-20-2013 07:23 PM
Yesterday 03:59 PM
by CHEESE2009
9 266
Starting out new
Marcus23
Yesterday 09:25 AM
Yesterday 01:33 PM
by Steve
1 102
New business owner
Hall36
Yesterday 06:53 AM
Yesterday 01:27 PM
by Steve
1 83
Brush Mower
SECTLANDSCAPING
05-13-2013 06:04 PM
Yesterday 01:02 PM
by Steve
12 671
Radio advertising
CDLAWNCARE
05-04-2013 06:26 PM
Yesterday 12:48 PM
by Steve
8 788
Whats wrong with it
jasonw
03-02-2013 06:02 PM
Yesterday 12:46 PM
by Steve
6 784
What Oil??
brian'slawncare
05-21-2013 10:11 PM
Yesterday 12:41 PM
by Steve
4 163
Charlie's Lawn Service
charlie383
05-20-2013 12:28 PM
Yesterday 11:16 AM
by charlie383
6 269
Paypal
JRB6250
05-22-2013 08:21 PM
Yesterday 08:51 AM
by googus
8 152
How would you handle...
LawnBoy0311
05-22-2013 06:57 AM
Yesterday 08:01 AM
by LawnBoy0311
9 250
In need of help bidding...
Landscape Lady
05-21-2013 03:09 PM
Yesterday 06:56 AM
by charlie383
4 205
Shindaiwa T231 Trimmer!
LawnCareProfessional
05-22-2013 04:31 PM
05-22-2013 11:20 PM
by LawnCareProfessional
7 159
payment prossessing
kslawn
05-21-2013 04:18 PM
05-22-2013 11:12 PM
by jymie
4 201
Uhm, yeahhh...
djm2013
03-26-2013 11:07 PM
05-22-2013 04:33 PM
by brian'slawncare
17 1,266
So Fortunate
Fireman Gus
05-21-2013 01:56 PM
05-22-2013 12:30 PM
by Steve
3 184
Very overwhelmed
xandrew245x
05-19-2013 09:31 AM
05-22-2013 12:18 PM
by Steve
14 508
Teenager wanting to mow...
clutchcarrot
05-20-2013 09:17 PM
05-22-2013 12:12 PM
by Steve
5 303
ethics
t-10yrs2retire
05-19-2013 01:47 PM
05-22-2013 12:06 PM
by Steve
9 351
At Last!
Matther777
05-02-2013 05:51 PM
05-22-2013 12:02 PM
by Steve
19 1,381
The customer is ALWAYS...
cutnuplawnservice
05-18-2013 08:28 AM
05-21-2013 05:57 AM
by stevef1201
5 388
It's FRIDAY!!!
CHEESE2009
05-17-2013 05:18 AM
05-20-2013 11:53 PM
by Hedgemaster
4 392
Bad boy MX series or...
cpenn481
10-15-2012 02:04 PM
05-20-2013 07:40 PM
by jrayb39667
21 2,418
Moss in grass in the...
tk4454
05-16-2013 11:19 PM
05-20-2013 05:44 PM
by precisiongreens1
3 354
Video, includes a little...
CHEESE2009
05-19-2013 11:21 PM
05-20-2013 04:55 PM
by Martywdx
3 261
no-compete agreement
CDLAWNCARE
05-18-2013 12:45 AM
05-20-2013 01:38 PM
by Steve
6 364
Hello to all!
frankygarza
05-19-2013 08:59 AM
05-20-2013 01:32 PM
by Steve
1 229
trailer leaf vac.
t-10yrs2retire
05-17-2013 10:44 AM
05-20-2013 11:57 AM
by Steve
3 357
Bi-weekly question
schnide
05-15-2013 10:58 AM
05-20-2013 06:30 AM
by Billy Goat
19 800
New to Gopher
NOLS GA
04-28-2013 10:42 PM
05-19-2013 09:05 PM
by NOLS GA
7 1,071
Truck trimmer racks
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-16-2012 05:56 PM
05-19-2013 04:40 PM
by Hedgemaster
21 3,353
Trimmer Line
Shark1611
05-16-2013 07:56 PM
05-19-2013 09:04 AM
by stevef1201
9 485
New Toro Super Recycler...
Hedgemaster
03-20-2011 12:55 AM
05-18-2013 11:20 PM
by Grass Doctor
134 25,963
Yesterday, I had a...
LawnBoy0311
04-25-2013 05:30 AM
05-18-2013 08:45 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
10 1,020
When to mow, collect,...
cuttingedgeron
04-05-2013 01:06 PM
05-18-2013 08:33 PM
by Hedgemaster
8 837
Missing small amount of...
xandrew245x
05-13-2013 04:30 PM
05-18-2013 07:57 PM
by MBLC
17 802
New Beginner here...
LawnCareProfessional
05-14-2013 12:05 AM
05-17-2013 12:00 PM
by Steve
8 724
Flower bed cultivation...
Emar
05-15-2013 04:41 PM
05-17-2013 11:42 AM
by Steve
5 449
Code violations
Greg'slawnandlandscape
05-16-2013 12:11 PM
05-17-2013 11:39 AM
by Steve
8 505
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy