Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Graphic And Web Design Support Forums > Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions.

Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions. Need a lawn care business website built? Talk about search engine optimization. Or ask your lawn care and landscaping business web building related questions here. Show us your landscaping business web site for review.

How valuable is your website?


Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions.

Need a lawn care business website built? Talk about search engine optimization. Or ask your lawn care and landscaping business web building related questions here. Show us your landscaping business web site for review.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 04-11-2013, 11:23 AM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BelleCityLawn1 View Post
I use Webs.com. You just have to buy a domain and the template. The template runs like $30ish a year plus the cost of the domain so it totals for me about $70 a year. Check it out here: http://www.bellecitylawncare.com/ . I have done alot of work to it and compaired to most of the companies in my area there are only maybe 1 or 2 websites that are better than mine and they are huge companies.

Thanks!
I actually really like your site! I didn't know webs.com had all those features! Looks like I'll be fixing mine this weekend...you did a great job!
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 04-11-2013, 11:33 AM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by wandfsmall View Post
I think a website is valuable if you can keep it updated. I would look for a wordpress theme that you can get for free and find a lower priced hosting service. Personally I pay something like $5 a month with free website name for hosting. And I am sure I have a much larger site then your looking at.
The guys on here selling sites are selling wordpress sites. I could do it but i feel like its a scam. I bet most dont even have a private server or VPS either. Just some cheap reseller hosting.

I had a friend that paid to get a "custom website" he bragged about how great it was. Every time he wanted to change something, add a picture, he would have to pay the guy to do it. Great website buddy!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-11-2013, 12:16 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
The guys on here selling sites are selling wordpress sites. I could do it but i feel like its a scam. I bet most dont even have a private server or VPS either. Just some cheap reseller hosting.

I had a friend that paid to get a "custom website" he bragged about how great it was. Every time he wanted to change something, add a picture, he would have to pay the guy to do it. Great website buddy!
So you think it is a scam? Most people only install a theme and tweak it. I on the other hand provide some premium themes, tweak them and I actually write the content. It is all the back end stuff that I do on sites that make them pay for themselves.

Actually, I have been told several times that the site has paid for itself in 30-60 days. More often than not within the first 30 days. The reason that I do use wordpress is so that the customer can make their own changes without having to pay me to do it.

Now if you want to charge $1200 for a site that is 5-10 pages then I would agree with you.

Nope, I do not have a VPS or a private server. Why would I want all my customers on one server? Not going to do that to ME! But to answer your question, most resellers do have a private server or vps as that is how the reseller accounts are set up.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-11-2013, 12:30 PM
BLC7 BLC7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 95
Rep Power: 3
BLC7 is on a distinguished road
Default

I think a website alone is worthless, unless people can find it to call you.

It's like having a lawn mower, but no gas to put in it and no lawns to mow.
What's the point?

However, if you have a site and the site generates traffic and leads, it's worth A LOT.

Just be careful, some of these "SEO" companies just want to take your money.


Here's something you can do without a website to promote your business online FOR FREE and will generate leads.

You've seen it before, but I can promise you haven't seen it used this way:

1. Create an Ad on Craigslist.
2. Title it "YOUR CITY Lawn Service"
3. Ad can be whatever you want.
4. At the bottom of your ad, insert the following keywords preceded by your city name: YOUR CITY Lawn Service, YOUR CITY Lawn Care, YOUR CITY Commercial Lawn Service, YOUR CITY Commercial Lawn Care
5. Verify/post the ad.

Here's the important part:

6. Copy the CRAIGSLIST link that displays your ad
7. Go to http://pingfarm.com
8. Paste in your craigslist link
9. Click "Mass Ping"

Rinse & Repeat only changing the title.

So you'll create a separate ad with each of the keywords in the title, and repeat 6-9:

YOUR CITY Lawn Service
YOUR CITY Lawn Care
YOUR CITY Commercial Lawn Service
YOUR CITY Commercial Lawn Care

Each ad will be optimized for the keyword, and will most likely show up in google results.


You don't need a website, you just need people to be able to find your info online.

I used this exact process, and my ad shows on page 1 in google, you can see here:

go to google.com
search natchez lawn service

You'll see a craigslist url on the first page with the title:

Natchez Lawn Service ⎷⎛by The Lawn Boy
It's ranked somewhere between 5-7 on page 1 of google, people are finding it and calling.

So, you see, you don't necessarily need a website.

Last edited by BLC7; 04-11-2013 at 12:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-11-2013, 12:39 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

That all depends on the type of client that you are trying to attract. Commercial clients are less likely to go with a craigslist ad.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-11-2013, 12:41 PM
BLC7 BLC7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 95
Rep Power: 3
BLC7 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratchetmaster2 View Post
I've been feeling a bit incompetent that I don't have a website. I don't want to pay a lot of money for someone to build one, and I have no idea how to maintain them. Besides that, I'm not really sure how much business flow I will gain from a website.

How do you feel having a website has benefited you? Have you ever gotten a call from a customer saying "I was google-ing lawn mowing and your website came up"?
Or do you simply have it because that's what businesses are supposed to have in this day and age? Maybe because it makes you look more professional?

I got a call from this woman yesterday trying to sell me a website. She wasn't a telemarketer or anything. Apparently, she was hired to build a website for another landscaping company, but they backed out, so she's left with a built webpage. She asked me if I wanted to buy it? Of course, she would change the info to be true for me, but she's asking $500.
I would assume that she was already paid for her work. Website designers probably want the money upfront.

At what price would you think this would be worth it?
If she's just going to hand the template over to you, I would pay maybe $100 bucks tops. Chances are she's attempting to mass market this template to landscapers nationwide.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-11-2013, 12:45 PM
BLC7 BLC7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 95
Rep Power: 3
BLC7 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cleaning Doctor View Post
That all depends on the type of client that you are trying to attract. Commercial clients are less likely to go with a craigslist ad.
I'm not sure I agree with you there. I've had 5 commercial clients call me the past 7 days from that craigslist ad, and I literally just received an email from another one 30 minutes ago.

The point is, you don't need a website to be found online. You just need to be able to be found. Plus, everyone has to start somewhere.


Also, Cleaning Dr, you have a good option for themes and is basically what this girl is trying to sell our friend for $500 bucks as a 1 off:

http://www.gopherforum.com/showpost....01&postcount=1

If I were not experienced in web marketing, I would take you up on this offer - although, I'd want ownership of the theme.

In fact, if you have a "lawn care" portfolio of themes you could show me, I might would by one off you right now today.

Last edited by BLC7; 04-11-2013 at 12:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-11-2013, 01:24 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

I use developer versions of different themes. I change them to suit my needs and the needs of the customer. I don't have a set of themes myself but that is in the works.

Most of the time it is seeing or picturing what something could look like from the demo sites. Most people can not see what that would be and I have been known to change the theme just because the logo does not look right.

For instance, this is the demo of a theme that I used recently

http://www.elegantthemes.com/demo/?theme=DeepFocus

And this is the outcome

http://carlislepressurewashing.com/

Or this one

http://www.elegantthemes.com/demo/?theme=Minimal
http://www.pressurewashingcleveland.net/

It is not always about the theme being designed for the niche/business but the ability to change it to look better. Heck even just changing the background can make a tremendous difference.

There is also a new theme that I have found that is going to allow me an unlimited amount of customization. And the theme is responsive which is great for mobile users.

Many times what you do on the back end helps you tremendously on the front end of things. I have several sites that I have done in some of what I consider mid to high range competiton areas and the sites are on page 1. Saves them money all the way around. There is one customer where we have done absolutely nothing to the site in 4 years and he is still #1 in Louisville KY.
__________________
Pat

Last edited by The Cleaning Doctor; 04-11-2013 at 01:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-11-2013, 01:35 PM
BLC7 BLC7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 95
Rep Power: 3
BLC7 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cleaning Doctor View Post
I use developer versions of different themes. I change them to suit my needs and the needs of the customer. I don't have a set of themes myself but that is in the works.

Most of the time it is seeing or picturing what something could look like from the demo sites. Most people can not see what that would be and I have been known to change the theme just because the logo does not look right.

For instance, this is the demo of a theme that I used recently

http://www.elegantthemes.com/demo/?theme=DeepFocus

And this is the outcome

http://carlislepressurewashing.com/

Or this one

http://www.elegantthemes.com/demo/?theme=Minimal
http://www.pressurewashingcleveland.net/

It is not always about the theme being designed for the niche/business but the ability to change it to look better. Heck even just changing the background can make a tremendous difference.
Nice. What about that Lawn Mowing theme in your original post. Do you have that available.

Wouldn't you be able to take the theme develop a demo toward lawn mowing, and sell the newly designed theme en mass allowing us to edit, etc?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-11-2013, 01:50 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLC7 View Post
Nice. What about that Lawn Mowing theme in your original post. Do you have that available.

Wouldn't you be able to take the theme develop a demo toward lawn mowing, and sell the newly designed theme en mass allowing us to edit, etc?
That is what I have in the works. These will be basic themes to start with. I want to get say 30 themes and then open that portion up for those that just want themes. I will slowly increase the number of themes and hopefully have over 100 of them before I am done. That is why I was guaging the interest before I just go out and build a bunch of them.

It all just takes time... LOL

One advantage I can think of over Craigslist is that you don't have to keep posting the ads. It is not a lot of work but it is one more thing that you need to do.

Most of my sites are in the $600 range because of all I do if it is paid in full. I even help you to learn how to post new blog articles with photos. If you need photos when I design the site then I buy stock photos. This is all included in the price. I even take a chance and help new owners with sites. You know those that are on a budget. I ask for $149 down and $29 a month for 24 months. This includes the domain, email and hosting. After that it is just the hosting and domain that comes to less than $50 a year.

I am not here to make a killing, just a living.

On the themes, I am thinking that a subscription of $29 a year that includes any updates would be a minimal price for some good looking themes.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Valuable customer justin_time General Business Discussions 12 07-27-2009 05:27 PM
Our new website musician/lawnman Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions. 25 05-09-2008 08:24 AM
Your Most Valuable Asset Is…. Steve Lawn Care Marketing & Post your marketing material for review! 0 10-04-2007 05:22 PM
website help radracer Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions. 6 03-29-2007 09:18 PM
How valuable is image Steve General Business Discussions 0 04-11-2006 10:58 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Just Quit?
ringahding1
Yesterday 06:23 AM
Today 08:50 AM
by rmccutchan
9 179
Landscapers from hell!!
Chilehead
01-29-2015 03:55 PM
Today 08:17 AM
by jrs.landscaping
4 119
French gardener owner's...
didgreen
Yesterday 09:10 AM
Today 02:25 AM
by didgreen
3 85
Thanks for all the posts
WheatGrass
Yesterday 06:38 AM
Today 01:29 AM
by WheatGrass
2 83
hows it going.
uppercut
Yesterday 05:01 AM
Yesterday 11:16 PM
by uppercut
3 88
viking cyclon.
uppercut
01-29-2015 09:12 PM
Yesterday 11:11 PM
by uppercut
2 75
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 11:41 AM
Yesterday 10:26 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
15 853
adding something new...
veteranslawncaresystems
01-28-2015 12:13 AM
Yesterday 09:15 PM
by veteranslawncaresystems
6 198
Crunch time 2015!
Chilehead
01-29-2015 08:57 PM
Yesterday 07:51 PM
by Chilehead
2 88
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
Yesterday 07:46 PM
by Chilehead
11 900
Lost my @#$ blower
stevef1201
01-11-2015 08:31 AM
Yesterday 04:47 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 476
whats this briggs?
uppercut
Yesterday 12:40 AM
Yesterday 02:49 PM
by Steve
1 64
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 12:18 PM
Yesterday 02:36 PM
by Hard-Body lawn & garden
1,202 363,957
Lawn Mowing -...
ringahding1
Yesterday 07:05 AM
Yesterday 07:05 AM
by ringahding1
0 39
TaskEasy & Plowz & Mowz...
jrwalker333
01-25-2015 01:02 PM
01-29-2015 08:14 PM
by lxarth
8 280
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 09:13 AM
01-29-2015 02:29 PM
by Steve
6 251
Looking for advice on...
berryjam
01-21-2015 07:37 PM
01-29-2015 02:21 PM
by Steve
15 497
New to the forum
LCRobert
01-26-2015 10:21 PM
01-29-2015 09:11 AM
by ringahding1
7 229
What happened to Better...
Steve
01-27-2014 04:07 PM
01-28-2015 12:26 PM
by Steve
21 3,216
Lawn care truck
Steve
10-10-2009 03:40 AM
01-28-2015 12:23 PM
by Steve
44 16,106
Bidding to get other work
Rodriguez11
07-21-2011 11:52 PM
01-28-2015 12:08 PM
by Steve
29 9,484
How many contracts...
5StarLawnscaping
01-12-2015 03:51 PM
01-28-2015 11:04 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
10 626
"Part Timers", "Low...
doug1980
06-10-2009 12:55 PM
01-27-2015 09:01 PM
by jrs.landscaping
43 10,386
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 12:30 PM
01-27-2015 07:24 PM
by avetslawncare
4 164
New to group
ron@alpine
01-27-2015 08:45 AM
01-27-2015 01:29 PM
by Steve
1 135
please Help with none...
Lawnboyman1170
01-09-2015 09:46 AM
01-27-2015 01:27 PM
by Steve
13 808
does this sound good or...
Bradcook21
01-22-2015 09:24 AM
01-27-2015 07:42 AM
by ringahding1
9 361
second year advise
cmdlawncare
01-23-2015 06:22 PM
01-27-2015 07:31 AM
by ringahding1
6 309
need advise
rawssrob
02-23-2010 02:45 PM
01-23-2015 06:40 PM
by cmdlawncare
7 2,644
New to forum
ROB N
01-23-2015 08:35 AM
01-23-2015 01:53 PM
by Steve
1 195
Extending the life of...
rmccutchan
01-17-2015 12:37 AM
01-23-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
8 442
osceola lawn service
jasa@wildblue.net
01-22-2015 03:23 PM
01-23-2015 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 200
Tax Question
Wolf4dk
01-20-2015 01:11 AM
01-22-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
4 343
Billy Goat Vac
Mr. Mow
01-19-2015 07:42 AM
01-22-2015 02:18 PM
by Steve
6 332
Property Pricing
GVL
01-19-2015 02:46 PM
01-21-2015 02:18 PM
by Steve
5 389
Landscapers Source For...
breadcrumb
01-16-2015 02:44 PM
01-21-2015 05:55 AM
by breadcrumb
14 557
Hoa advice
Bradcook21
01-16-2015 09:36 PM
01-20-2015 04:30 PM
by Steve
4 380
My Invention
biglee
01-11-2015 07:51 PM
01-20-2015 10:16 AM
by biglee
16 710
How to beat the pre pay...
stansg1fresh
01-13-2015 04:33 PM
01-19-2015 03:38 PM
by ringahding1
3 445
Hello from Md
homey
12-17-2014 06:55 PM
01-19-2015 01:37 PM
by Steve
12 1,260
Hi from Illinois
burtle
01-02-2015 09:46 PM
01-19-2015 01:22 PM
by Steve
3 609
Hello from SW FL!!
5StarLawnscaping
12-05-2014 02:35 PM
01-19-2015 01:20 PM
by Steve
14 1,563
Another Illinoisan.....
barhopper
01-11-2015 05:38 PM
01-16-2015 04:29 PM
by Steve
10 532
marketing with pizza...
apmAkron
01-15-2015 09:57 AM
01-15-2015 06:29 PM
by Steve
4 340
CRM and Quickbooks?
5StarLawnscaping
01-15-2015 08:06 AM
01-15-2015 08:06 AM
by 5StarLawnscaping
0 273
New Member, Indiana Iraq...
Timbo
07-14-2011 09:44 AM
01-14-2015 06:14 PM
by Steve
10 3,863
check this box truck out!
BLAZIER-1991
01-07-2015 07:40 PM
01-13-2015 03:06 PM
by biglee
8 737
My community only ad...
googus
01-12-2015 09:55 AM
01-13-2015 02:44 PM
by Steve
5 432
12 Years in Business!
Chilehead
10-23-2014 09:07 AM
01-13-2015 09:37 AM
by Chilehead
18 1,936
use a small business...
BLAZIER-1991
12-25-2014 12:21 AM
01-12-2015 06:32 PM
by BLAZIER-1991
30 1,688
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter bob villa bush commercial deliquentaccounts demonstration ditches door hangers employee problems estimate foreman four wheel drive google gopherhaul gravely hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lawn mowing lighting brass outdoor lights managing a lawn care business marketing mulch new mower ordinance patio install per hour service podcast scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization seo shell shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns steve theft toro tractor auger trailer mate pro up sell employee won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:55 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:55 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy