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Old 03-17-2013, 11:43 AM
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I always pay and charge by the yard. have never bought anything by tonnage. Dpld makes a very valid point. Are you picking up your mulch or dirt in the rain?? If so your getting boned if your paying by weight.
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I always pay and charge by the yard. have never bought anything by tonnage. Dpld makes a very valid point. Are you picking up your mulch or dirt in the rain?? If so your getting boned if your paying by weight.
you don't even need to do that in the rain because once a pile of screened soil gets wet it takes days to somewhat dry out and even if covered it will suck the water up like a sponge from the bottom up.
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that is what i was thinking, i don't if you and me are thinking that for the same reason but either way charging 45.00 is ridiculously low and refusing to pay 45.00 for someone you put through the trouble that would not have been bothered if you did not call in the first place is as low as the dirt you dumped on the ground.

i know prices vary from state to state but they can not be that far off.
good quality top soil in my area cost about 30.00 per cubic yard and the minimum delivery charge is 50.00 regardless if you only want a wheel barrow load delivered.

and by real top soil i don't mean any old crap sub soil dirt ran through a screening machine that gets passed off as top soil for a discount.
I paid 25 for the load after I felt like a low ball because I had to drop price I only had to drive three miles from the dirt yard to her house it was more of a bonus for the day because I was in the area. For anyone confused it was sold per scoop and each scoop whieghs 800 pounds.

And some one mentioned a 1500 couldn't hold that and that was my point the max payload with driver and passengers is like 1800 so I told her I was delivering more than she could haul

Snethercut that's exactly what I told her an her neighborhood is hilly no way she would make it

Dpld the trailer wa within whieghtt limits I don't have a pick up yet the accident happend after I was unloaded I was hit from the person behind me ( sorry this sentence sounds rude it's not supposed to be well no of them are)
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I paid 25 for the load after I felt like a low ball because I had to drop price I only had to drive three miles from the dirt yard to her house it was more of a bonus for the day because I was in the area. For anyone confused it was sold per scoop and each scoop whieghs 800 pounds.

And some one mentioned a 1500 couldn't hold that and that was my point the max payload with driver and passengers is like 1800 so I told her I was delivering more than she could haul

Snethercut that's exactly what I told her an her neighborhood is hilly no way she would make it

Dpld the trailer wa within whieghtt limits I don't have a pick up yet the accident happend after I was unloaded I was hit from the person behind me ( sorry this sentence sounds rude it's not supposed to be well no of them are)
Sounds like your price was to low to begin with. Shouldve been something like $40 for dirt, $30 for delivery, and $20 to dump it. Thats still low but you wouldve made out with something.

That scoop doesnt make sense. Never heard of it just yards and tons.
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Scoop has been a term here for a couple of years.

In my opinion it's to rip people off that don't know what cubic yards are.

conversation I had last year after paying for 3 yards of mulch and going to the loader with the receipt.

me:"3 yards of mulch"

Nursery: "3 scoops it is"

Me: "no, 3 yards, I paid for 3 yards of mulch and that bucket is not one yard."

Nursery: "You paid for 3 scoops, you'll get 3 scoops."

Me: " no thanks, I'm getting my money back and going somewhere else."

They were charging the going rate for mulch per yard, I paid what I would have paid for 3 yards anywhere else within a couple bucks so I didn't think anything of it at the point of sale, but would have gotten half the amount of mulch. Got my money back and never went back.
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The customer asked for a pickup sized load so I quoted 45 for topsoil when I went to drop it off she said that the dirt was not enough and she wouldn't pay 45 for it......... How would you handle this.
Could you use a word order or some type of purchase agreement in the future? Just something simple to say the customer has ordered X and wants it delivered?

Also, if it is not enough dirt, why not just offer to sell her more? Would another load make her happy?
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Could you use a word order or some type of purchase agreement in the future? Just something simple to say the customer has ordered X and wants it delivered?

Also, if it is not enough dirt, why not just offer to sell her more? Would another load make her happy?
No she wanted more dirt for the same price
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selling it by the truck load that's a new one
What size bed 6' 6.5' 8' ?
Are you trying to be a supplier?
I charge the same dropped or spread
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selling it by the truck load that's a new one
What size bed 6' 6.5' 8' ?
Are you trying to be a supplier?
I charge the same dropped or spread
I'm not trying to be a supplier the trailer is 8ft by 5 so it would be like a 8ft truck bed. It was also holding more whieght than a pick up ha payload
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I just gave another quote to a new customer for 130 for 5 yards of dirt. I have a few questions.

1. I was told one yard of dirt whieghs 800-1000 pounds is this correct it seems like a low number to me

2. Was this a low price I can get one yard for $10 or for free from the housing developers

3. Shoud I sub out the job. All the customer wants is for the dirt to be dropped off. The contractors will drop dirt off for 40 per dump truck load. My question with this is will I make me look bad to say Ill drop it off and then have someone else do the work
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