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Old 03-17-2013, 10:41 AM
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I'm sure he can afford to pay, but just like someone said earlier, are the rich going to pay that kind of money every week for mowing especially if their a cheap ***?
Him being able to "afford it" isn't really the point.
Some wealthy people only want to spend money on themselves. When it comes to paying the bill, they don't want to.
Others are perfectly fine with redistributing their wealth.
Just like everyone else, some people are ok with spending, some aren't.

If you think it's worth $500 of your time and skill, pitch it. If he doesn't like the price, then I guess you don't get him as a client.
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Him being able to "afford it" isn't really the point.
Some wealthy people only want to spend money on themselves. When it comes to paying the bill, they don't want to.
Others are perfectly fine with redistributing their wealth.
Just like everyone else, some people are ok with spending, some aren't.

If you think it's worth $500 of your time and skill, pitch it. If he doesn't like the price, then I guess you don't get him as a client.
I agree. I really want the job. I dont want to bid too low and be screwed. So, then again, I dont want to bid too high and not get it all. This will be my first big yard so Im anxious at the same time, but I want to make it my worthwhile and not just jump into it and get screwed.
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Even $500 is low. I like what the other guy suggested give him a whole price then a piece price. Like $600 for all then $250 for half one week and $600 the next week for all.

If the guy doesnt want to pay. He has options like a buy a mower and spend 12 hours mowing it. Or let it grow!

I dont see a guy with money doing either.

I do a nice house on a little under 3 acres. I charge $275 a week. I thought it was high too till I looked up the address and seen that he pays $29,000 a year in taxes. Real nice people too. They give my guys $50 tips all the time.
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13 acres in half a day? You would need to have 3 guys, two mowing and one on the trimmer. And I still don't think it could be done with zero turns in half a day. And 300 is too much? And I thought I underbid myself. I get 300 for a 2.5 acre retension pond. No way in hell you are getting getting me mow over 5 acres for 300. That's way to cheap. If he has guys working he won't make any money after he pays them and gas and wear and tear on equipment
I cut a 4.5 acre business with minmum trimming in 1hr 35min from start to finish thats by myself on a 60 turf tracer 13 acre should come in at about 4hrs so shoot for around 300. No lower than 240 and thats the bottom. A 7 am start and finishing at this one at 11 am with 8 other 40$ lawns for the rest of the day and you are at 620$ and thats by yourself. not a bad day money wise.

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If you now 4.5 acres on a mower built to now an acre every 40 minutes, and you are mowing 4 times that in 2x the time.... sign me up for a fleet of them please. I will take them all.
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I use to mow 6 acres with two zero turns. It took 4 hours. One ztr was 72 the other was 60. Took 4 hours. So 13, is gonna take at least 7 hours. I just don't see it. And I know what a home mortgage is typically. I have one customer who pays well over 1,000 a month. I'm not short changing myself. Y'all can. I wouldn't touch that place for less than $450 each cutting. I would work something our with him to mow around the house weekly and the rest EOW if the price is too much.
8 man hours for 4.5 acres on a 60 and 72? Damn, no wonder you have to overcharge to make payroll.
I have, and Im sure many others have, knocked off 4 to 5 acres in less than 2 man hours. I have a buddy who is a LCO, and his 2 man crew mows 30 acres in 16 man hours! Thats w/a 60 and a 61 deck.
13 acres is definately feasible w/a 60z for one guy! Should take about 7 hours. Especially if its open, and relatively flat. 7 hours of mowing is about 7 gallons of gas. Every 3rd mowing the blades will need sharpened. Every 7th mowing an oil change. Figure these costs into the job.
You can cut the guy a break because you have 2 of his properties, and a buge one at that. Honestly, I would tell bim upfront that he is getting a multi property discount, and as soon as that other one sells, his price would vo up 10% since he no longer has multi properties. Figure out what you need to make hourly, how long you think it will take, and there is your price. You dont have to "give him" a discount, but if you tell him you are, then he may be that much happier. Tell the customer what he wants to hear,its part of sales.

Snethercutt, if my guy took 4 hours to mow 2 1/2 acres, I would fire him on the spot.
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So here is my thinking process right now. I think I will give the guy 2 options like some of you have talked about. 1st option would be to mow entire property every week for $600. This is not the correct amount, Im just putting an amount there to see what Im thinking. 2nd option would be to mow around the house, drive way and along his fence every week and then every other week, mow the rest of the property for $400. So, he can spend $2,400 a month on the first option or just $1,600 a month on the 2nd option. What do you think?
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Grass guru where did you come up with those numbers. I said 6 acres took 4 hours. That would be two mowers built to handle an acre in under an hour. And then taking care of trimming. And that's only with two guys so I know nobody was screwing off because I was on the job.

And yes I agree 4 acres is possible to mow in 2 hours with one zero turn capable of mowing an acre every 30 minutes. Which is mowers that run 13-15 mph ground speed. But you also factor in the house and concrete into that... so it takes some sq ft away from the equation.
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Rocky do u realize you just said by both accounts that a mower is capable of mowing 3 acres an hour? Those are rediculous numbers my friend. That's an acre every 20 minutes.



With some of the numbers thrown around on this post, I see why so many business come and go.

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Rocky do u realize you just said by both accounts that a mower is capable of mowing 3 acres an hour? Those are rediculous numbers my friend. That's an acre every 20 minutes.



With some of the numbers thrown around on this post, I see why so many business come and go.
Wow...you're like wayyyyyy off. With a 21" push mower, I can mow 3/4 in less than an hour.

Why don't you take a look at this chart and stop fabricating numbers

http://www.exmark.com/Products/Productivity/
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