Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??

Connecting Rod 101


Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-30-2013, 05:56 AM
Billy Goat's Avatar
Billy Goat Billy Goat is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 3
Billy Goat is on a distinguished road
Default Connecting Rod 101

Iam in the middle of repairing a Briggs and Stratton 5 HP Quantum Engine. The connecting rod broke and Iam replacing it. When I got the replacement connecting rod, there were two other parts in the box. After doing some research, I would say the one part is called a oil slinger (Dipper) and the other is called a lock plate? This engine has a combo governor/oil slinger so I believe I dont need to install the slinger to the connecting rod. My question is about the lock plate? What is it and what is it use for? I found no other evidence of any other broken part in the engine except for the connecting rod. The engine parts break down doesnt show any such part. I researched and internet and found no information or photos with the lock plate installed. I only found photos like the one I attached to this post.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ConnectingRod.jpg (4.4 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg BreakDown.jpg (34.0 KB, 9 views)
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 01-30-2013, 07:07 AM
stevef1201 stevef1201 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,224
Rep Power: 6
stevef1201 is on a distinguished road
Talking

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
have yo tried fitting the lock plate over the connecting rod where the two bolts go? Is it possible that it 'locks' the two bolts so they wont come unscrew? I have seen things similar, the corners of the plate are bent around the bolt heads so it cannot back out during operation/


just my thoughts-not an expert
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-30-2013, 08:52 AM
Billy Goat's Avatar
Billy Goat Billy Goat is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 3
Billy Goat is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevef1201 View Post
have yo tried fitting the lock plate over the connecting rod where the two bolts go? Is it possible that it 'locks' the two bolts so they wont come unscrew? I have seen things similar, the corners of the plate are bent around the bolt heads so it cannot back out during operation/
The corners on the lock plate are flat. Plus the bolts have a round edge on them. Photo attached. I would hate to put or not put this lock plate on and find out otherwise if the engine fails because of it.

I want to make an educated guess and say it helps supports the connecting rod from breaking but I could be wrong. I searched and viewed hundreds of photos on the internet and not found one thing about this so-called lock plate.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg bolt.jpg (5.8 KB, 3 views)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-30-2013, 10:20 AM
RoughCut RoughCut is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Midwest
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 2
RoughCut is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm not a expert also, but have repaired too many motors. Most parts fit many different brands. So BS might not use a locking plate. If the old connecting rod didn't have it,don't use it. That being said if you can't tell if the old one had one, then I would throw the engine away, because could be block damage. Also use new connecting rod bolts as the new ones have locking threads or sealent on them. Usually come with new rods
Hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-30-2013, 11:33 AM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

pretty sure your talking about the little sheet metal piece in the first picture you attached ,and that goes in between the rod bolts and the cap and the ends are bent once installed to keep the bolts from spinning out .
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-04-2013, 06:34 AM
Billy Goat's Avatar
Billy Goat Billy Goat is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 3
Billy Goat is on a distinguished road
Default

Sometimes little things can be a big headache. I was trying to get the 2 bolts off the new connecting rod and one of the hex heads stripped (rounded) out. Not sure if was because the bolt was torqued to tight or the bolt was simply cheap. I was not in the mood to try to remove the bolt in fear of damaging the connecting rod. I figured it was easier just to buy another connecting rod. This time I found a orginal service part made from briggs and stratton instead of the other brand (Stens). I was happy because in the box had instructions on how to install the rod along with installing the lock plate. Even had the bolt torque specification.

These instructions do not state anything about bending the corners of the lock plate around the bolt heads. From what I read it acts like a washer. I will try to scan and post the instructions if anyone needs them.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-04-2013, 12:32 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Yes please do. I would love to see the way they explain it and what you were able to do.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-05-2013, 12:51 AM
wandfsmall wandfsmall is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 925
Rep Power: 5
wandfsmall is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat View Post
Sometimes little things can be a big headache. I was trying to get the 2 bolts off the new connecting rod and one of the hex heads stripped (rounded) out. Not sure if was because the bolt was torqued to tight or the bolt was simply cheap. I was not in the mood to try to remove the bolt in fear of damaging the connecting rod. I figured it was easier just to buy another connecting rod. This time I found a orginal service part made from briggs and stratton instead of the other brand (Stens). I was happy because in the box had instructions on how to install the rod along with installing the lock plate. Even had the bolt torque specification.

These instructions do not state anything about bending the corners of the lock plate around the bolt heads. From what I read it acts like a washer. I will try to scan and post the instructions if anyone needs them.
As a dealer I know the likely answer to this question but was the OEM part much higher then the aftermarket lower quality part?
__________________
I am the owner of www.AllOutdoorParts.com an online mower parts distributor. I am also a Briggs Master Service Technician and Expert Certified Mechanic for Kohler. If my posts helps you please like my facebook page at www.facebook.com/alloutdoorparts
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-05-2013, 06:01 AM
Billy Goat's Avatar
Billy Goat Billy Goat is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 3
Billy Goat is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wandfsmall View Post
As a dealer I know the likely answer to this question but was the OEM part much higher then the aftermarket lower quality part?
In this case, I purchased the OEM part from ebay for $10 delivered. The aftermarket part was $15 delivered. The crankcase gasket was $5 delivered. 95% percent of the time I can find what Iam looking for on either eBay or Craigslist. Iam a one man army so I have to be jack of all trades, master of none.

I service all my own equipment. I dont make enough profit yet to purchase commercial equipment so I try to buy the best used residential equipment I can find. I only do small lawns with my own equipment. Iam surprized how good some of the equipment holds up not being commercial grade. I been impressed with Briggs & Stratton engines for the past few years.

I dont do snow removal so I the time to service my own equipment durning the winter months. Generally, you can find good prices on equipment and parts if you have the time to search the internet. Also I watch alot of repair it yourself videos on youtube.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-11-2013, 06:36 PM
Billy Goat's Avatar
Billy Goat Billy Goat is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 3
Billy Goat is on a distinguished road
Default

The operation was a success. Reassembled the engine, added oil and gas and she fired up after a few pulls. I ran the engine for about 45 mins at idle speed to break in the new connecting rod. Tomorrow I will I bring the engine up to full power and see how she holds up.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Stander Vs. Zt
totalscape
12-20-2014 07:57 PM
Today 05:42 AM
by Billy Goat
6 129
Complete body therapy...
zermin
Yesterday 11:51 PM
Yesterday 11:51 PM
by zermin
0 23
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 05:07 PM
Yesterday 09:46 PM
by Just Cuts
10 313
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 09:36 AM
Yesterday 04:33 PM
by stevef1201
38 9,902
Ideas on a large bid
Knaubone
Yesterday 11:57 AM
Yesterday 11:57 AM
by Knaubone
0 48
what do you "love" to...
calebmoss
07-06-2011 10:05 PM
Yesterday 12:52 AM
by rmccutchan
31 9,069
I'm BACK!
SuperiorPower
12-16-2014 11:08 PM
12-20-2014 11:33 PM
by SuperiorPower
7 264
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
12-19-2014 09:45 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
189 16,774
Georgia Boys!
Chilehead
12-18-2014 10:23 PM
12-19-2014 09:36 PM
by Chilehead
2 125
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 08:15 PM
12-19-2014 07:48 PM
by SuperiorPower
9 373
Hello from Md
homey
12-17-2014 06:55 PM
12-19-2014 06:00 PM
by homey
5 217
Has Obamacare helped or...
Steve
12-18-2014 04:37 PM
12-19-2014 05:43 PM
by stevef1201
3 150
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 02:56 PM
12-17-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
23 3,023
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 09:51 AM
12-17-2014 09:40 AM
by SuperiorPower
34 6,173
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
12-17-2014 09:13 AM
by SuperiorPower
15 1,387
New to Gopher Haul-from...
323k13l
12-12-2014 10:34 PM
12-15-2014 02:58 PM
by Steve
3 340
hi
creteland
12-12-2014 09:06 AM
12-15-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
5 332
New addition to my small...
googus
12-12-2014 07:36 PM
12-15-2014 07:47 AM
by googus
4 408
Ferris IS700Z
rmccutchan
12-14-2014 01:10 AM
12-14-2014 11:41 PM
by rmccutchan
4 306
Charge what the market...
Billy Goat
12-09-2014 12:39 PM
12-14-2014 06:39 PM
by biglee
20 852
Hi from IL
steveinil
11-25-2014 02:07 PM
12-12-2014 07:18 AM
by steveinil
4 849
Utility Company Right of...
eastsidelandcare
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
by eastsidelandcare
0 316
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
12-11-2014 04:50 PM
by eastsidelandcare
33 4,158
suggestions on full lawn...
Brian3137
12-10-2014 07:18 PM
12-11-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
6 434
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 11:20 PM
12-11-2014 09:43 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
18 3,436
Hello from SW FL!!
5StarLawnscaping
12-05-2014 02:35 PM
12-10-2014 02:45 PM
by WesleySnips
7 676
Echo pb200 blower fuel...
googus
12-06-2014 09:03 PM
12-09-2014 06:35 PM
by Steve
3 527
Are you prepared for the...
Steve
12-02-2014 04:13 PM
12-09-2014 06:22 PM
by Steve
7 943
Email Address Name
Just Cuts
12-07-2014 09:49 PM
12-08-2014 03:15 PM
by Steve
3 471
Inspection form
stevef1201
12-07-2014 10:38 AM
12-08-2014 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 472
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
12-08-2014 12:37 PM
by jrs.landscaping
108 34,293
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
12-07-2014 06:35 PM
by stevef1201
24 1,773
Innovation by mandate
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 01:33 PM
12-06-2014 03:27 PM
by SGL1
12 1,021
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 10:07 PM
12-05-2014 11:06 AM
by Steve
9 2,308
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
12-04-2014 01:32 PM
by stevef1201
15 1,497
How many hours is too...
Just Cuts
12-04-2014 09:00 AM
12-04-2014 01:02 PM
by Just for Cuts
6 659
Does this sound like a...
googus
12-03-2014 07:47 AM
12-04-2014 12:37 PM
by Steve
5 735
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
12-04-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
14 1,268
New website
SGL1
12-02-2014 10:55 PM
12-03-2014 11:17 PM
by BLC7
19 904
Websites, how long...
Dan Tanner
03-09-2014 08:29 AM
12-03-2014 11:12 PM
by SGL1
21 3,294
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 11:04 PM
12-03-2014 10:36 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
8 1,916
GPS trackers for...
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:09 PM
12-03-2014 07:17 PM
by Steve
8 756
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
12-03-2014 06:31 PM
by SGL1
17 1,498
Hiring Subs over Temps
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:26 AM
12-03-2014 01:24 PM
by Steve
3 676
Thanksgiving cards
Steve
11-10-2008 11:57 AM
12-02-2014 11:11 PM
by SGL1
11 9,569
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
12-02-2014 02:17 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 1,528
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 07:13 PM
12-02-2014 08:47 AM
by SGL1
6 1,549
old contracts
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 11:10 AM
12-01-2014 11:20 AM
by Steve
3 742
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
12-01-2014 10:54 AM
by Steve
9 1,320
Lawn care truck
Steve
10-10-2009 03:40 AM
12-01-2014 10:45 AM
by Steve
32 15,234
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment complex auger bark billy goat brushcutter blades bush care charge christmas collections edging employee problems equipment rental estimate foreman four wheel drive georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business hills holiday husqvarna jobs john deere quik trac labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lighting lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mowing mr dave mulch mulch estimate new buisness new business new mower ordinance past due per hour service podcast profit on employee pto push versus ride running a business savannah search engine optimization seo shreaded small engine repair sprayer starting a business steep lawns theft toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack wood
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy