Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Pricing ????


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 01-14-2013, 10:06 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6295danny View Post
Well I didn't think chargen another 60hr for one helper was fair price.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6295danny View Post
So ur saying I need to charge 120 hr if I have a helper?

If your charging $60 a hour then with 5 employees its $300 a hour. I mean you could give em a break and charge $100 a hour for 2 guys but most charge the same per hour charge per employee. We just calculate man hours. A hour for every man every hour there.

Youll find workers comp starts at about $1500 a year and goes up for every $1000 in payroll. So theres additional expenses to having a helper. Its not as easy as I'm paying 10 a hour, it cost 10 a hour. It really cost 20 a hour and with fuel probably 30 a hour and so on.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #22  
Old 01-14-2013, 10:14 PM
6295danny 6295danny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South MS
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 3
6295danny is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Ill figure it either way. Sorry if this is getting old but u keep replyn. Anyone else charge by the hour. How do you do it an be fair but profit.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-14-2013, 10:16 PM
6295danny 6295danny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South MS
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 3
6295danny is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
If your charging $60 a hour then with 5 employees its $300 a hour. I mean you could give em a break and charge $100 a hour for 2 guys but most charge the same per hour charge per employee. We just calculate man hours. A hour for every man every hour there.

Youll find workers comp starts at about $1500 a year and goes up for every $1000 in payroll. So theres additional expenses to having a helper. Its not as easy as I'm paying 10 a hour, it cost 10 a hour. It really cost 20 a hour and with fuel probably 30 a hour and so on.
Ok got ya. Glad I didn't just bid for the 60hr...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-14-2013, 10:37 PM
6295danny 6295danny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South MS
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 3
6295danny is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6295danny View Post
Ok got ya. Glad I didn't just bid for the 60hr...
I never considered workers comp.... How does that work. Guessing its different state by state right. I think I was just reading unless ya have over 3 workers working full time, workers comp doesn't apply to my business. I wanna be sure tho. This is why I ask so many Questions.. I have no Idea how to run a business. Im a little worried here to be honest.
I do measure small residental lawns but when I measured this place the math didn't add up. Does now but hourly seems to be just as good as measuring. An quicker on these larger places. Ill do both ways a while an see what one works best for me.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-14-2013, 11:31 PM
SomrakLC SomrakLC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 59
Rep Power: 3
SomrakLC is on a distinguished road
Default

take the time it took you by yourself and cut it in half since there will be another person.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 01-15-2013, 02:50 AM
6295danny 6295danny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South MS
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 3
6295danny is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SomrakLC View Post
take the time it took you by yourself and cut it in half since there will be another person.
Well that would work if I was using the same equipment. I have upgraded from a cub cadet 50 ztr stamped deck I use for my own yard. POS the hydros suck. To a scag turf tiger 61in deck. I was also usen a cheap curved shaft troy built weedeater now I have straight shaft 100cc sthils. I was usen a weed eater brand blower now got a sthil 600 mag.. I never used this equipment really since there is no grass to cut right now. I did try the mower out a little is some dead stuff an it cut the dead stuff 3 times faster than my cub and looked better at that. So all that is out the window.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-15-2013, 01:59 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,002
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Danny,

This discussion is a great example of why it is more ideal to start with mowing residential properties by yourself first. When you do this, you learn bidding basics. You learn how much you need to charge to operate per hour and you don't need a staff to complicate things.

Now that you are in this situation, I want to point a few things out. Don't worry if you are charging too much. If the customer agrees to the price, it's not too much for them. If your bid was too much, they would go with someone else.

Second, we can't tell you what your operating expenses are. That is based on your situation. How much are your expenses per year divided by how many man hours a year are you working. I know you aren't going to be able to answer this at the moment because it is all new.

When you start with smaller properties, you minimize the potential damage you can cause your business by underbidding because it's a small property that won't take too much time and not much in the way of equipment.

When you start with larger properties, you spend more time at the property and need more expensive equipment. If all of this is not paid for by a properly priced bid, it is a lot easier to find yourself not making anything or losing money while working on that property.

With all that said....

Quote:
I mowed it for cash last 2 months of the summer last year keep in mind I was using a 50in mower. It took me about 8 hours to mow and I could weed eat an blow it in about 6 hrs or less.
So this job has taken you 14 man hours to do.

Quote:
I bid $2500 per month for mowing twice a month
Let's do some math here.

It takes you 14 man hours per service. Multiply that by 2 mowings per month.

So we are at 28 man hours per month.

$2500 / 28 man hours = $89 per man hour.

If you are making $89 per man hour, I would venture to guess you will be alright with the job.

Now the question is, does this look right to you? Are these hours right?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 01-15-2013, 04:27 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

I am very confused. What is he asking again???


Oh wait, I think I got it.


Well.....


Wait a sec. Who's on first?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 01-16-2013, 07:59 AM
6295danny 6295danny is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: South MS
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 3
6295danny is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Danny,

This discussion is a great example of why it is more ideal to start with mowing residential properties by yourself first. When you do this, you learn bidding basics. You learn how much you need to charge to operate per hour and you don't need a staff to complicate things.

Now that you are in this situation, I want to point a few things out. Don't worry if you are charging too much. If the customer agrees to the price, it's not too much for them. If your bid was too much, they would go with someone else.

Second, we can't tell you what your operating expenses are. That is based on your situation. How much are your expenses per year divided by how many man hours a year are you working. I know you aren't going to be able to answer this at the moment because it is all new.

When you start with smaller properties, you minimize the potential damage you can cause your business by underbidding because it's a small property that won't take too much time and not much in the way of equipment.

When you start with larger properties, you spend more time at the property and need more expensive equipment. If all of this is not paid for by a properly priced bid, it is a lot easier to find yourself not making anything or losing money while working on that property.

With all that said....



So this job has taken you 14 man hours to do.



Let's do some math here.

It takes you 14 man hours per service. Multiply that by 2 mowings per month.

So we are at 28 man hours per month.

$2500 / 28 man hours = $89 per man hour.

If you are making $89 per man hour, I would venture to guess you will be alright with the job.

Now the question is, does this look right to you? Are these hours right?
Yea Steve that all sounds about right. I would like to have some more residential yards but alot of those are taken here by school kids. Funny thing is the reason I got the job is because im the only one that bid. along with about 5 other large properties i just got. An I have people calling me wanting bids on other commercial properties bc there where no one putting in bids on them. I guess ill jump into it all out an hope for the best. I just made a connection today with a old friend that has a lawn care service here local an is helping me with the bids. He has been mowing for 20 years now so hes steering me in the right path I hope. Thanks everyone for your info. Ill will get back with everyone later in the year on this topic an let you guys know if i survive or go broke..
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 01-16-2013, 01:56 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,002
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I look forwards to hearing your view on servicing these properties once you get on them. How big they are in sqft, how long they took to service etc. Your reflections on the whole process once you get on them will surely be interesting.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pricing???? Mlopez Starting a lawn care business. 6 04-06-2011 09:33 PM
Need help pricing. Sean70 Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 4 04-05-2009 06:36 AM
Hello, I am new and need help with pricing! jones26r Introduce Yourself 17 08-18-2007 11:59 AM
Job Pricing bcnj Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 2 06-12-2007 08:18 PM
need help pricing a job vicman Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 5 05-12-2007 12:33 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Kawasaki Control Assembly
rsanchez1203
Yesterday 04:21 PM
Today 12:21 AM
by rsanchez1203
9 111
All NEW BRASS Black Rain...
BlackRain75
Yesterday 10:07 PM
Yesterday 10:07 PM
by BlackRain75
0 21
Opinions on truck wrap
Trupro
02-28-2015 04:21 PM
Yesterday 09:52 PM
by Trupro
12 265
Doug With Blades Of...
BladesofSteel
Yesterday 08:40 PM
Yesterday 08:40 PM
by BladesofSteel
0 23
Jesse with Curb Appeal...
CurbAppeal1
Yesterday 01:44 PM
Yesterday 06:48 PM
by CurbAppeal1
12 125
New guy from Columbia, SC
holymoly
Yesterday 05:27 PM
Yesterday 06:10 PM
by Steve
1 32
Diesel conversion?
Just for Cuts
03-02-2015 10:59 AM
Yesterday 06:08 PM
by Just for Cuts
4 103
stubbon people
Bradcook21
02-16-2015 04:25 PM
Yesterday 05:56 PM
by Steve
45 1,435
What's include in a bid?
ppl
03-02-2015 01:19 PM
Yesterday 05:53 PM
by Steve
9 193
New Website
brian'slawncare
03-01-2015 06:35 PM
Yesterday 05:48 PM
by Steve
8 155
How do YOU charge your...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
03-02-2015 09:28 PM
Yesterday 05:44 PM
by Steve
1 62
New Lawn Care Business
S&Z Lawncare
03-02-2015 04:13 PM
Yesterday 05:39 PM
by Steve
3 108
My Newborn son
avetslawncare
02-27-2015 01:07 PM
Yesterday 05:23 PM
by joshlawncare
7 159
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
Yesterday 02:50 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
14 2,036
rock salt
Bradcook21
02-24-2015 11:17 AM
Yesterday 01:26 PM
by jrs.landscaping
30 637
tips on creating a...
BLAZIER-1991
01-08-2015 07:22 PM
Yesterday 10:38 AM
by brian'slawncare
9 804
pros and cons on...
Wolf4dk
03-02-2015 12:26 AM
03-02-2015 10:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 137
price for snow clearing?
Bradcook21
02-25-2015 09:11 PM
03-02-2015 08:32 PM
by Bradcook21
7 279
Ugliest lawn contest
Steve
02-23-2015 04:17 PM
03-02-2015 04:57 PM
by Steve
5 372
Hi from the beautiful...
nwgirl
02-07-2015 06:01 AM
03-02-2015 04:45 PM
by Steve
5 658
Online Estimator
acrajchel
03-01-2015 05:58 PM
03-02-2015 03:50 PM
by Steve
3 117
How to obtain more...
winkie61
02-17-2015 08:31 AM
03-02-2015 11:05 AM
by nwgirl
4 598
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 01:41 AM
03-02-2015 10:44 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
16 680
How to sell annual...
GroPro
02-17-2015 12:31 PM
03-01-2015 01:46 PM
by Chilehead
8 630
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 09:36 AM
02-27-2015 11:37 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
52 11,867
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 01:31 PM
02-26-2015 03:43 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 1,794
viking cyclon.
uppercut
01-29-2015 09:12 PM
02-26-2015 02:54 PM
by Steve
5 546
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 01:06 AM
02-26-2015 02:41 PM
by Steve
1 148
Another website update
Chilehead
02-26-2015 11:24 AM
02-26-2015 12:46 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 140
New Lawn Care Service...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:49 AM
02-26-2015 02:24 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
1 165
Finally!
SGL1
02-22-2015 09:46 PM
02-25-2015 10:15 PM
by SGL1
13 500
leaf removal.. mulching...
facework84
08-05-2011 03:26 PM
02-25-2015 08:07 PM
by Steve
5 2,833
How many customers?
SC93
02-25-2015 12:40 AM
02-25-2015 04:59 PM
by SC93
5 274
Irrigation...
charlieallen
02-24-2015 01:16 PM
02-25-2015 02:58 PM
by Steve
6 265
use a small business...
BLAZIER-1991
12-25-2014 12:21 AM
02-25-2015 12:46 AM
by SC93
33 2,888
honest opinion please
uppercut
02-17-2015 02:30 AM
02-24-2015 07:12 PM
by homey
10 717
2nd year advice anyone
Bradcook21
02-18-2015 07:00 PM
02-24-2015 05:15 PM
by Bradcook21
14 688
need help
lawnexpers115
02-23-2015 05:36 PM
02-24-2015 02:49 PM
by Steve
3 308
Hello People
nativikee
02-23-2015 07:17 PM
02-24-2015 02:43 PM
by Steve
4 308
New member
qua ke zik 001
02-23-2015 11:24 AM
02-23-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 260
New Video
Sprinkler Buddy
02-22-2015 09:18 PM
02-23-2015 03:19 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 284
need help with SCAG...
apmAkron
02-23-2015 09:14 AM
02-23-2015 01:57 PM
by apmAkron
3 287
which degrees would be...
BLAZIER-1991
02-20-2015 04:46 PM
02-23-2015 01:47 PM
by Steve
9 455
Trouble logging in
avetslawncare
02-21-2015 02:06 PM
02-23-2015 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 685
John Deere Quik Track...
acrajchel
02-20-2015 03:12 PM
02-23-2015 01:40 PM
by Steve
1 323
Trimming and...
joshlawncare
02-15-2015 02:04 PM
02-22-2015 09:48 PM
by SGL1
5 660
where can i post this
zippy-phil
02-17-2015 07:58 PM
02-20-2015 02:02 PM
by Steve
7 537
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 11:41 AM
02-19-2015 04:43 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
29 2,712
Thumbs up or down?
lawnman1959
02-18-2015 11:40 AM
02-19-2015 01:22 PM
by Chilehead
3 454
Am I growing too fast?
Mattcrump
08-04-2011 11:54 PM
02-19-2015 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 5,255
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment complex bark blades blowout bob villa collections commercial demonstration edging employee problems equipment rental facebook ferris first truck flyers free advertising gopherhaul grass growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring husqvarna hydraulic introduction landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website marketing more customers business mr dave new business ordinance past due patio install per hour charge podcast profit on employee push versus ride running a business scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization sell the vision seo shreaded small engine repair sq ft square foot sulky tractor auger trailer tree trimmer rack truck new used landscape walk behind web design website winterization won't return wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy