Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Commercial Lawn Care bids question


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-31-2012, 09:09 PM
daddy03w daddy03w is offline
new member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ohio
Age: 32
Posts: 25
Rep Power: 0
daddy03w is on a distinguished road
Default Commercial Lawn Care bids question

I have been trying to put in a couple commercial property bids and keep getting denied do to the snow plowing as i do not have a truck to plow with, i mainly just want the lawn mowing part of the bids but can not find a way to get the bid.

Would anyone have a thought on subbing it out and how i might be able to do it with out another company coming in and under bidding me on the lawn care.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 12-31-2012, 09:13 PM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
find yourself a snowpow guy that doesnt cut grass .
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-01-2013, 12:59 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruces View Post
find yourself a snowpow guy that doesnt cut grass .
That sounds easy enough.

Your making it seem like you have to do the lawncare and snow plowing. I have never seen a contract like that. There both put out to bid. I have done lawncare for dozens of properties that I didnt do the snow removal for and vice a versa.

I imagine you could try subbing the snow plowing part but subs are extremelly unreliable. They will do their accounts first. Show up when they want. Lie about how long they were there. Then not show up at all. If you plan on using subs use a lot.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-01-2013, 02:01 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I have been trying to put in a couple commercial property bids and keep getting denied do to the snow plowing as i do not have a truck to plow with, i mainly just want the lawn mowing part of the bids but can not find a way to get the bid.
Have you considered looking for other commercial properties that don't require both in their contract? Wouldn't that make it easier on you if you don't want to offer snow plowing or deal with sub contracting it out?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-01-2013, 02:17 PM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

My point was to find someone to bid with,somebody doing just snow removal in your case ,work out a plan that helps both of you ,then get the work .I have done this before and it worked out fine as it was work I wanted in the summer ,but couldnt do in the winter as I had a shopping mall parking lot to deal with in the winter .I treat any subs fairly ,my rates are always higher than theirs ,so I pay their going rate ,have no issues with them or their work ,and still make money on the jobs .Usually people having sub issues ,is because they beat the subs price down so the sub doesnt care if they do the job or not .
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-01-2013, 02:35 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruces View Post
My point was to find someone to bid with,somebody doing just snow removal in your case ,work out a plan that helps both of you ,then get the work .I have done this before and it worked out fine as it was work I wanted in the summer ,but couldnt do in the winter as I had a shopping mall parking lot to deal with in the winter .I treat any subs fairly ,my rates are always higher than theirs ,so I pay their going rate ,have no issues with them or their work ,and still make money on the jobs .Usually people having sub issues ,is because they beat the subs price down so the sub doesnt care if they do the job or not .
I agree with you on finding a plow guy but the problem is if he screws up you lose the spring work.

I always pay my subs what they ask for. I have never tried to offer them a dollar less. I just paid a guy $60 a hour for snowblowing. He claimed to work 5 hours and he worked 2 1/2-3 at most. He showed up at 10p.m, the storm started at 5pm and ended around 2am. He was at home at 12:30am and never went to the second location.

My driver told me he was done a little after 11pm and was sitting down. Then the PM called me and said a guy was sitting in their truck for a hour while the maintenance man was clearing the walks.

He cleared the first 4" at one place. My guy cleared the next 5" in a little over a hour with a smaller machine. Then we had to clear the whole 9" at the other place. The guy called me in the morning asking if I had more work. I had him move and a pile of snow in front of a dumpster while I supervised. Paid and said see a later.

I'm now looking at at 45" snow blower. It will be cheaper then dealing with a lying sub.

I wont even get into last year. I had a dozen subs and only two lasted. They still both work with me and were giving $15 raises. I'm paying subs between $70-$90 a hour. Thats higher then most charge to do it themselves.

Last edited by SECTLANDSCAPING; 01-01-2013 at 02:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-02-2013, 12:00 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I wont even get into last year. I had a dozen subs and only two lasted.
What are the top 5 biggest lessons you learn from dealing with them last year? How do you feel that experience has helped you get better at managing subs or has it taken you into a new direction for the winter months?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Commercial lawn care contract bid example. GopherHaul 61 Lawn Care Software Show Steve GopherHaul Lawn Care Business Show, Video, Book & Podcast Discussions. 0 08-07-2010 09:35 AM
Commercial lawn care contract bid example. GopherHaul 61 Lawn Care Software Show Steve Lawn Care Business Marketing - GopherHaul Forum News 0 08-07-2010 09:35 AM
How to win commercial lawn care jobs - GopherHaul 47 Lawn Care Business Tips Podcast Steve GopherHaul Lawn Care Business Show, Video, Book & Podcast Discussions. 0 11-02-2009 09:13 AM
How to win commercial lawn care jobs - GopherHaul 47 Lawn Care Business Tips Podcast Steve Lawn Care Business Marketing - GopherHaul Forum News 0 11-02-2009 09:12 AM
Commercial bids ledfut Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 10-13-2008 03:57 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Hi from IL
steveinil
Today 02:07 PM
Today 02:07 PM
by steveinil
0 21
WNY saying Hi.
Sargewesser
Today 07:27 AM
Today 07:27 AM
by Sargewesser
0 28
Group Buying Software as...
ferona
Today 06:49 AM
Today 06:49 AM
by ferona
0 31
How to: Use Thumbtack...
acrajchel
11-17-2014 06:39 PM
Yesterday 07:58 PM
by thom
17 568
How much do you up sell...
Essex Groundskeeping
11-23-2014 07:13 PM
Yesterday 06:29 PM
by stevef1201
8 179
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 05:56 PM
Yesterday 05:49 PM
by biglee
16 3,194
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 07:13 PM
Yesterday 04:32 PM
by acrajchel
4 664
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
09-30-2014 06:42 PM
Yesterday 08:37 AM
by acrajchel
7 1,316
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
11-23-2014 07:46 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 2,439
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
11-23-2014 07:40 PM
by Just for Cuts
12 303
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
11-22-2014 10:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
16 531
Pics for website
tbtigers03
11-21-2014 05:40 PM
11-22-2014 10:01 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 163
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
11-22-2014 05:56 PM
by AGPS
9 335
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 12:45 PM
11-22-2014 02:42 PM
by stevef1201
22 6,193
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
11-21-2014 09:48 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
174 14,094
Contract or no contract?
TRV
11-20-2014 09:18 PM
11-21-2014 09:33 PM
by TRV
3 196
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
11-21-2014 08:02 PM
by stevef1201
4 349
Billboards for marketing
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-16-2014 08:39 PM
11-21-2014 07:05 PM
by acrajchel
13 409
Belt dealer problem
googus
11-21-2014 08:45 AM
11-21-2014 06:36 PM
by Steve
2 146
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
11-21-2014 06:32 PM
by Steve
7 254
What is going on with...
biglee
11-14-2014 03:04 PM
11-20-2014 02:50 PM
by biglee
40 991
My advice for new guys
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 09:32 AM
11-19-2014 01:47 PM
by biglee
10 527
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 02:23 PM
11-19-2014 12:39 PM
by acrajchel
28 1,890
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 10:19 PM
11-18-2014 04:24 PM
by acrajchel
14 1,487
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 05:14 PM
11-17-2014 07:34 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,222
sod job
SGlawncare
10-30-2014 09:21 PM
11-17-2014 07:10 PM
by acrajchel
7 808
Customer wants me to...
Mr. Mow
11-09-2014 07:13 AM
11-17-2014 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
10 577
Hello!
Brian3137
11-11-2014 07:15 PM
11-17-2014 06:46 PM
by acrajchel
14 503
small biz in Phoenix,AZ
anthonyramos1
11-08-2014 09:35 PM
11-17-2014 05:59 PM
by acrajchel
2 354
Client won't pay...
WesleySnips
10-30-2014 03:53 PM
11-17-2014 05:37 PM
by acrajchel
22 1,416
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
11-17-2014 12:59 PM
by Steve
2 284
Need help on deciding a...
Brian3137
11-10-2014 06:32 PM
11-17-2014 12:44 PM
by Steve
12 546
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 10:51 PM
11-16-2014 07:54 AM
by stevef1201
8 1,637
So how do you guys...
Mr. Mow
10-26-2014 08:55 AM
11-15-2014 08:44 AM
by avetslawncare
14 1,749
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
11-13-2014 08:35 AM
by jrs.landscaping
81 31,893
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 03:45 PM
11-12-2014 05:05 PM
by stevef1201
14 1,723
A little hang up in snow...
stevef1201
11-08-2014 07:05 AM
11-12-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
4 467
Bi-weekly winter...
lxarth
11-04-2014 08:37 PM
11-12-2014 10:06 AM
by WesleySnips
9 656
taking first steps...
sizemorelawncare
11-10-2014 08:24 PM
11-11-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
1 363
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
11-11-2014 08:12 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 417
Business Cards
crieg122
10-25-2014 01:03 PM
11-11-2014 07:56 AM
by Just for Cuts
12 1,367
How the unregister?
alive101
11-04-2014 07:39 AM
11-10-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
4 640
Belt adjustment question
googus
11-05-2014 06:43 AM
11-10-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
5 543
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
11-10-2014 01:25 PM
by Steve
2 382
Podcast
Shark1611
11-07-2014 05:42 PM
11-10-2014 11:41 AM
by Steve
1 342
hi, from Minnesota
rjklohn
11-07-2014 02:21 AM
11-07-2014 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 365
New to snow plowing
SS.Lawncare
11-05-2014 04:00 PM
11-07-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
6 605
New Member
tonyap
11-05-2014 10:35 PM
11-07-2014 01:15 PM
by Steve
1 404
New to the business
jcurr33
11-05-2014 03:21 PM
11-07-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
1 457
Lines
Matther777
11-04-2014 02:19 PM
11-07-2014 12:54 PM
by Steve
1 490
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 apartment complex auger bark bob villa charge christmas collections edging employee problems equipment rental exmark ferris georgia gopherhaul grass gravely hardscapes hills holiday how much to charge husqvarna jobs john deere quik trac labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lighting lighting brass outdoor lights managing a lawn care business mechanic monthly mowing mr dave mulch mulch estimate new buisness new business past due per hour service podcast push versus ride savannah scripts seo shell small engine repair starting a business starting a lawn care business sulky theft toro tractor auger trailer trimmer rack up sell employee walk behind walker wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy