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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:08 PM
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Send an email to me again. Same address. Put in the subject Hey Jay! I think my spam box got it and deleted it. I have some time this weekend and I'll come up with a game plan. I did some research on your area, you have a lot of potential!!
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Jason did you talk to ringahding1 about a website?
are you listed on yellowpages.com
would you like help with a craigslist ad? If so I need to know
your services
towns/areas you service
"sale" you would like to run like 50% off first mow...
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My minimum use to be $40 for a lawn and $35 per hour but because of out of town, unlicensed labor I was forced to drop it to $20 per lawn and $20 per hour and there are still A holes out bidding me.

As far as advertising NONE of it is working, nothing offered locally at least, thats one of the big problems, this year for example, all year long I only got a few calls and one one job from them.


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I would reevaluate your prices. Theres no way your charging enough if you dont leave every job with something.

Then I would look at expenses. Your prices could be in line and your cost are to high. I have never lost money or broke even. Then again If I cant get the job for my price I walk.

The other part would be lack of work. If your not working enough look at your marketing. Drop everything that is not working for you and only stick to what had results. This is a complicated thing to do because sometimes its good for your name to be seen even if you dont get a call.

Other then that branch out to other companies. I been looking for snow subs for two months now and have had no responses. I pay these guys $75 a hour or give them a site to do for the year.
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I got a notification that I had an email from you but I just got home after volunteering at a haunted house all night so I will check it now and get back to you.


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Send an email to me again. Same address. Put in the subject Hey Jay! I think my spam box got it and deleted it. I have some time this weekend and I'll come up with a game plan. I did some research on your area, you have a lot of potential!!
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I am thinking about the offer but at the same time already have a website. I am NOT listed in the yellow pages, I called them but they wanted far more money than I made so I hung up. My services other than mowing are Weed Spraying

Pest Spraying

Field and Brush Cutting

Chipping Shredding

Clean Up

Pressure Washing

I recently learned that pest a weed control might not be legal for me to offer here without an applicators licences from the state although I have not confirmed that with the state yet.


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"sale" you would like to run like 50% off first mow...
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I am thinking about the offer but at the same time already have a website. I am NOT listed in the yellow pages, I called them but they wanted far more money than I made so I hung up.
Are you in Jackson CA?
your website is hard to find and does not have your service area listed
yellowpages.com is free for a basic listing (they will call to up-sell just say no thanks)

I would let ringahding1 build you a new site and back link it so it can be found.

STOP SELLING YOURSELF ON PRICE you will never win. Just bid jobs to make a living.
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It sounds like you are pretty plugged into your local community which should make it easier to find customers.
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Yes and no Steve, when you take business, even if you get on your knees and plead, everyone is good at just ignoring you around here lol
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Jason, Jason, Jason, my little brother. Sorry to hear your not doing good. I want you to come over to my house so I can set you straight and give you some advice. As you know, I did residential gardening from 1982 to 1998 and then did commercial maintenance from 1998 to 2003 when I moved to Ione. I had 5 full time employees (with benifits) when I sold it. Think about the following points and then call me tomorrow afternoon or evening. (im busy in the morning)

Whats the population of Ione? Jackson? maybe 3,000 each. How many manicured lawns? maybe 300?

How many manicured lawns are thee in Folsom? Stockton? Rancho Cordova? probably 40,000- 100,000 each.

Most of the jobs around here are weed wacking fields and vacant lots. Thats fine if you had a base of lawn accounts bringing in 1,000 or 2,000 then the one time weed wacks are gravy on top! you can't build a business on them.

I called you with a lead on a new homeowner that wanted lawn care. Her front lawn is 50' by 20', no back yard. you said $20 per mow. I thought it was a little high since its so small and said how much for a monthly contract and you didn't want to do monthly. You probably could have got it if you quoted 45 or 50 per month. She has plans to have cement put in the back and then some landscaping, etc. you could have got in on that. and when her yard is finished, and the yard is bigger, increase your mowing to 65 - 75??

Hang in there my friend, were here for you! If you don't recognize my user name, its Ken H
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Ken, at $50 per month that is $12.50 per visit per week. That won't even pay for the tires on my trailer and to be honest I would rather hang it all up than work my butt off for such chicken feed. The bank interest rates pay better than that.
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