Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??

Walk behind vs ZTR


Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-21-2012, 01:42 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default Walk behind vs ZTR

Hey guys, I wondering what the pros and cons are of a walk behind vs a ZTR. Around this time next year I plan to purchase a commercial mower, I decided to use my residential mower and get the most life out of it. I haven't decided if I am going to buy new, or if I will buy used.

If I bought a walk behind I plan on buying a velkye to ride on.

Other than walk behinds being substantially cheaper and lighter than a ZTR, what are some other pros and cons?
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-21-2012, 02:04 PM
pfreeman pfreeman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 35
Rep Power: 4
pfreeman is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Each has benefits, but the answer is what is your account look like? Gated yards usually don't accept ZTR, nor do steep inclines. ZTR's are great for wide open spaces, but it takes a while to learn not to leave divots in the lawn while turning. Choose the equipment that will make you the most efficient with your accounts. I have a Ferris 61 ZTR and a Scag ProV 36 with a velke. Each was chosen for different account styles.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-21-2012, 02:13 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm just starting out, I have 4 accounts right now, which are all pretty flat. They range from the biggest being about 1.5 acres to one that is under 1/2 an acre, none have fenced in areas.

I guess I will find out what I need once I pick up a few more clients.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xandrew245x View Post
I'm just starting out, I have 4 accounts right now, which are all pretty flat. They range from the biggest being about 1.5 acres to one that is under 1/2 an acre, none have fenced in areas.

I guess I will find out what I need once I pick up a few more clients.

If you have the means to buy, and have a target neighborhood, and know what the lawn sizes are, buy based on what you have available to mow.

Not sure if that made sense, but here's my example...

I started with a 21" mower. All of my accounts are small/med in size as a result. Let's say I decide to buy a ZTR tomorrow... what will I do with it?
I'll need to find new clients (to use the ZTR) and/or drop the ones I have now because I can barely use a walk behind for my current lawns, let alone a ZTR.

It's "easy" if you have "all" the equipment to cover any type of job, but if you are limited to one or two types of mowers, you need to choose lawns that work with what you have.

Not sure if THAT made any sense either.



I actually DID own a new, homeowner Husqvarna ZTR for a few months this past winter. I had trouble with it and returned it and it was the best thing I could have done. I had VERY few lawns I could use it on and some of those had pretty steep hills. I put that money toward the Ferris walk behind.

Last edited by Hedgemaster; 08-21-2012 at 03:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-21-2012, 05:01 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

It actually all made sense. The areas I would like to target all have at least 1 acre of grass to mow. To be honest, a lot of houses around where I live have decent sized lots anywhere from a half acre to 3-4 acres. A lot of the housing developments have about 2.5 acres.

I was thinking of getting a large walk behind with a velkye, that way if I had hills I had to mow, easy enough to do so, if I had large areas to mow, it was doable.

I think with the advice you gave me though, I should probably shoot for a ZTR, if I can swing it I might pick up a small walk behind, maybe like 36-42" deck.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-21-2012, 06:00 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Hedge said it best. It all depends on you. Large flat I'd get a big deck ZTR. Smaller areas or fences, I'd go with a 36" walkbehind. Thats just me though. Go with what suits you the best.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-21-2012, 06:10 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

I see a lot of companies around here mowing apartment complexes and other similar places with 48-52" walk behinds, rarely do I see them on a ZTR. However all of the smaller scale businesses have ZTRs
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-21-2012, 06:13 PM
wat5150 wat5150 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 604
Rep Power: 0
wat5150 is on a distinguished road
Default

A few companies here use walk behinds. Most of them use ztrs with Walkers being the most widely used.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-21-2012, 06:15 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wat5150 View Post
A few companies here use walk behinds. Most of them use ztrs with Walkers being the most widely used.
Or who knows, maybe they do have a ZTR and i just don't see it, I usually only see one person on a walk behind and then like 2 or 3 people trimming, so I assume there is another mower somewhere.

I think I am going to go with a ZTR, if I can upgrade my truck and trailer, I may add on a small walk behind for the future, but thats way in the future.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-22-2012, 10:31 AM
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 74
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 0
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

I started doing my lawns with a 21", but I reached a point where I could only take on so many clients.

The reason most people purchase a zero turn is to increase their speed, this is so that they are able to take on more work.

-

When I purchased a zero turn, my productivity allowed me to take on a lot more clients. There are times where you will have to use a smaller mower for backyards, which is not a huge problem.

If it takes you 20 minutes to mow a front yard, imagine having it done in 5 minutes, then compare the difference on a larger scale;

20mins x 100_clients = 33 hours
5mins x 100_clients = 8 hours

It's about '25' difference.
... 75% decrease.

Last edited by CHEESE2009; 08-22-2012 at 10:41 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Walk-behind/Stander? Clays Landscape Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 23 12-08-2011 09:29 AM
Walk Behind Vs. Rider (z or otherwise) lukus223 Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 9 07-16-2011 12:51 AM
Gravely walk behind ataboyj Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 2 04-30-2011 10:30 PM
In the market for a walk behind Steve's Lawn Care Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 7 03-03-2010 04:44 PM
Walk behind mowers S.P.Martin Lawn Care Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 2 08-26-2007 11:37 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Lawn Care Service in...
Friscobob
Yesterday 03:33 PM
Today 05:35 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 55
New company in Michigan
SEM
Yesterday 09:27 PM
Today 05:26 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 35
Newb Question - Multiple...
DependiLawn
Yesterday 11:36 PM
Yesterday 11:36 PM
by DependiLawn
0 22
maintandlawndispatch...
SGL1
04-21-2015 03:31 PM
Yesterday 04:42 PM
by Steve
9 203
Big (to me) mulch job
tl757
04-23-2015 05:32 PM
Yesterday 04:39 PM
by Steve
4 109
Total yard rehab
SGL1
04-23-2015 03:59 PM
Yesterday 04:39 PM
by Steve
3 91
Thoughts on Undocumented...
element009
09-25-2011 11:08 AM
04-23-2015 09:32 PM
by Chilehead
56 15,491
Hello Everyone
DesignsByBnC
04-22-2015 04:07 PM
04-23-2015 02:19 PM
by DesignsByBnC
2 78
The upcoming rainy...
5StarLawnscaping
04-21-2015 01:22 PM
04-23-2015 12:54 PM
by Steve
7 179
color fliers?
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:32 PM
04-23-2015 12:50 PM
by Steve
12 339
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
04-22-2015 07:04 PM
by Just for Cuts
59 2,508
WARNING! Especially to...
SC93
04-19-2015 12:05 PM
04-22-2015 01:39 PM
by Steve
14 404
Could be great news for...
SC93
04-14-2015 11:06 PM
04-22-2015 01:28 PM
by Steve
15 493
quick pic
joshlawncare
04-14-2015 07:49 PM
04-21-2015 05:01 PM
by joshlawncare
4 322
Got Inspected today
swstout
08-09-2010 10:31 PM
04-21-2015 03:53 PM
by SGL1
10 3,978
Smoked my first belt!
SGL1
04-20-2015 08:46 PM
04-21-2015 03:28 PM
by SGL1
4 151
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
04-21-2015 12:47 PM
by Steve
25 998
lawn care business...
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:56 PM
04-21-2015 06:18 AM
by holymoly
3 241
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
04-21-2015 03:18 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
57 5,236
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
04-20-2015 10:02 PM
by SGL1
4 460
Poll & Discussion...
CHEESE2009
09-16-2011 06:16 PM
04-20-2015 08:20 PM
by avetslawncare
27 5,659
weed
avetslawncare
04-16-2015 07:56 PM
04-20-2015 01:08 PM
by Steve
4 250
Aerating / Dethaching...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-12-2015 07:53 PM
04-19-2015 08:49 PM
by Chilehead
17 590
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
04-19-2015 09:21 AM
by KJ90
8 997
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
04-19-2015 05:26 AM
by RSE
22 1,004
Hustler Raptor
SGL1
04-13-2015 09:27 PM
04-18-2015 07:53 AM
by SGL1
15 507
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
04-17-2015 10:25 PM
by Wolf4dk
11 407
Am I missing something...
googus
04-11-2015 06:33 PM
04-17-2015 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
10 529
Hello
sonny54
04-16-2015 09:49 PM
04-17-2015 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 195
Unreal
Chilehead
04-09-2015 09:12 PM
04-17-2015 08:27 AM
by Chilehead
11 560
starting a lawn care...
JBENI
04-14-2015 09:03 AM
04-17-2015 08:03 AM
by JBENI
14 538
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
04-16-2015 07:52 PM
by avetslawncare
23 1,361
New 14 x 7 Enclosed...
whitepropertydetail
04-15-2015 06:46 PM
04-16-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 247
older used dump trucks
SECTLANDSCAPING
09-22-2011 12:33 AM
04-16-2015 12:41 PM
by biglee
21 8,045
Tax Poll
Steve
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
by Steve
0 234
lawn care by Aj
aj10261984
04-14-2015 06:50 PM
04-15-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
2 264
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 08:13 AM
04-15-2015 12:54 PM
by SC93
7 1,267
trying to sign up for...
JBENI
04-14-2015 10:20 AM
04-14-2015 12:11 PM
by Steve
1 726
Charging customers for...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-14-2015 07:34 AM
04-14-2015 10:35 AM
by Steve
1 297
New member
Jdlandscaping,LLC
04-11-2015 03:24 PM
04-14-2015 05:45 AM
by Jdlandscaping,LLC
2 327
hello
oasis_greenscapes
04-01-2015 06:18 PM
04-13-2015 12:03 PM
by Steve
8 567
New Member
Greenturion
04-11-2015 02:00 PM
04-13-2015 11:59 AM
by Steve
1 289
Client with...
OldSalt
04-07-2015 09:47 PM
04-13-2015 11:57 AM
by Steve
8 514
Getting rid of "mulched...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 04:21 PM
04-13-2015 11:26 AM
by biglee
3 327
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
04-13-2015 11:11 AM
by biglee
7 439
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
04-13-2015 11:07 AM
by biglee
15 943
Landscape Fabric
CurbAppeal1
04-10-2015 03:58 PM
04-13-2015 08:02 AM
by Chilehead
4 369
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
04-12-2015 04:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
17 4,011
Snow removal contracts
CDLAWNCARE
03-31-2015 02:57 PM
04-10-2015 11:37 AM
by kslawn
6 591
Do you have medical...
Steve
09-10-2011 11:46 AM
04-10-2015 11:28 AM
by Steve
17 5,304
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush commercial contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems estimate facebook foreman google growing a lawn care business hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lawn mowing managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets mulch new mower ordinance patio install per hour service scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization secrets to landscaping seo shell shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns theft toro tractor auger trailer mate pro up sell employee web design website wood wright stander rh www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy