Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

How much profit?


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 07-30-2012, 09:54 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

These are the results of a poll that was done here. Notice only 2 out of the 5 are still active members. 90% of lawn care businesses fail in the 1st year.
Quote:
0-25,000 15 78.95%
25,000- 50,000 2 10.53%
50,000 - 75,000 1 5.26%
75,000 - 100,000 0 0%
100,000 + 1
http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=12913


Maybe some of the guys that joined since can vote in the poll to make it more up to date.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 07-31-2012, 03:32 AM
PVMS PVMS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 3
PVMS is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by wat5150 View Post
LOL!!! Indeed. Jesus kid you need to get real.
We are lucky in that regard over here. We don't get snow in any of the capital citys, and its not too hard to target and get $4-500 a day all year round.(not rainy days of course)
I have talked to a few guys that survived our 14 year drought, and they just put on an extra 60 or so clients and got through.
I cant see that having 45 clients to be enough. I need around 100 per worker (averaging $50 jobs)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-31-2012, 05:33 AM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

I think you've missed the mark completely on running a business. Lets start off with a simple question. Whats the only thing needed to make your car/truck go? HINT: this also has to be put in a mower, and does not rhyme with "foil" or coil".
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-31-2012, 06:05 AM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

Geez guys, I never said I would make $300 a day, I just read somewhere if you could easily make $300 a day, but I have little experience so I really wouldn't know.

I didn't start a business to make a lot of money, I started this business because its actually something I like to do. But if I can make more money at my full time job, than whats the point.


Also, I don't understand how you can't make decent money with this job, my wife's step brother works for a lawn care company and gets paid more than I do! He has 3 employees and pays them all $15 an hour or more. I know the owner of the company makes a pretty penny too.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care

Last edited by xandrew245x; 07-31-2012 at 06:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-31-2012, 06:49 AM
wat5150 wat5150 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 604
Rep Power: 0
wat5150 is on a distinguished road
Default

Look, no one said you cant make money at this job. You definitely can. You just need to understand that once you start getting into multiple clients (like 40-60 or anything like that) you will need to hire people. You will need insurance. You will need more equipment. Your expenses will be higher. Dont listen to anyone that says there is no money to be made. There are some big time guys around my area that do very well. You just need to understand all your overhead. You can make money but it costs you money to get there. As you grow you will understand this. If you already have your equipment than you are well on your way. Just do some research. Dont rely solely on this forum. Maybe speak to some guys in your area, thats the best way to get a handle on whats going on where you are. But dont listen to people say there is no money to be made. You can do it you just need to understand all the variables.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-31-2012, 07:11 AM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wat5150 View Post
Look, no one said you cant make money at this job. You definitely can. You just need to understand that once you start getting into multiple clients (like 40-60 or anything like that) you will need to hire people. You will need insurance. You will need more equipment. Your expenses will be higher. Dont listen to anyone that says there is no money to be made. There are some big time guys around my area that do very well. You just need to understand all your overhead. You can make money but it costs you money to get there. As you grow you will understand this. If you already have your equipment than you are well on your way. Just do some research. Dont rely solely on this forum. Maybe speak to some guys in your area, thats the best way to get a handle on whats going on where you are. But dont listen to people say there is no money to be made. You can do it you just need to understand all the variables.
100% correct. You can make money doing just about anything. Just be GREAT at it. Lawn care is a service, like a restaurant, or even Peapod (the grocery trucks). People will always continue to pay for a service if its worth while to them. There is a saying "you have to spend money to make money"...but be smart how you take that. Mowing townhouses with a ZTR would not apply to that quote. Manage your expenses and stay within budget. Thats where most people fail. By wanting to start your own business, it shows you have the drive to do it. Thats the hardest step because its not for everyone. Like I said before, don't quit your day job and take things slow. Who knows, maybe by the end of next year your burnt out and want nothing to do with mowing. Take it slow, collect some profit, and keep that "money hungry" drive going.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-31-2012, 07:27 AM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks guys. I know one guy thats in lawn care, he does trimming for my grandma, I would be doing it but she didn't want to drop him mid season. He only charges $40 to do almost 2 hours of trimming, that seems a little cheap in my opinion, but hes been in business for 4 years.


I'm defiantly going to finish this year and see how I feel about it.I know it takes money to maintain a successful business, if I decide to do this full time, I want to just have enough money to be comfortable with life.

I guess the whole name of the game is to be smart, there is no point taking your trailer and all your equipment to a lot that could easily be push mowed. It would more profitable to just put the mower in the best of the truck and drive there with that.

I think the main reason I want to have my own business is because I don't want to have to rely on my parents business, like I said, I am going to be running it one day, but I have seen a decline in the business over the last couple years that it really has me worried, this is my livelihood, both me and my wife work here, so if this goes under we are pretty much **** out of luck.

If I run my own business from the start, at least I have some sort of control over how its ran, nothing against my parents,but I can't stand how they run this business. Running a business is in my blood, my grandfather ran a business, my dad, and now me, the problem is I really don't know much about running a business and that scares me.

The reason I ask so many questions is because i'm afraid that my business is going to fail due to my lack of knowledge.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-31-2012, 08:13 AM
Simmo Simmo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 3
Simmo is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PVMS View Post
We are lucky in that regard over here. We don't get snow in any of the capital citys, and its not too hard to target and get $4-500 a day all year round.(not rainy days of course)
I have talked to a few guys that survived our 14 year drought, and they just put on an extra 60 or so clients and got through.
I cant see that having 45 clients to be enough. I need around 100 per worker (averaging $50 jobs)
I agree with you 100%... 100 clients is the magic number i target per worker also. We are very lucky over here to attract a large amount of clients fairly easy! Although our cost of living is much greater, more people are working longer hours in Australia and is the reason why most people have the cashflow to pay for mowing... as a result of working longer hours they are time poor but have spare cash.

One thing that does suprise me is the frequent of mows in the USA. I only have a hand full of weekly customers (in the peak of summer) and the majority are bi-weekly in summer... 3 weeks in Spring and Autumn and 4 weeks in winter (now).

I am starting to understand why getting clients can be difficult in the USA if you are targetting weekly mows, alot of competition and the economy is tight.

In saying that.... A successful business will flourish in any market. A successful business needs to be either:

1. FIRST to market
2. Be the BEST in your industry, or
3. DIFFERENT.

Simmo.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-31-2012, 08:50 AM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

How could 1 worker handle 100 clients, that's 14 a day 7 days a week
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-31-2012, 03:53 PM
xandrew245x xandrew245x is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 648
Rep Power: 3
xandrew245x is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm going to make an excel sheet to keep track of expenses and profit for the remainder of the year, if I turn a profit, then I am defiantly going to continue on into next year.

I use my personal truck as my work truck, so I use gas driving every where else, should I just keep track of the gas I use driving to and from jobs, or should I just count it every time I fill up my truck?

I know I use less than a gallon driving to my moms house, my grams house, my moms rental house and the other guy I have mowed for twice. They are all within a mile of eachother.
__________________

Carlisle Lawn Care
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is your profit margin? FourSeasons General Talk 32 11-26-2012 11:50 AM
Concern About Profit aduttonater Starting a lawn care business. 10 01-19-2011 01:03 AM
Company Profit adamsmowing88 Starting a lawn care business. 12 03-12-2010 08:47 PM
$150 profit per day for 60 days lawn mowering Community Assistance 9 03-06-2010 12:15 PM
How to turn my low profit business around mowboy General Business Discussions 3 05-10-2009 07:22 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Ferris FW35 questions
Chilehead
03-10-2015 08:31 PM
Yesterday 03:14 PM
by Dan Tanner
5 385
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
Yesterday 10:56 AM
Yesterday 12:43 PM
by jrs.landscaping
3 64
First big mower decision?
SGL1
Yesterday 08:58 AM
Yesterday 08:58 AM
by SGL1
0 53
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 07:15 PM
Yesterday 08:43 AM
by biglee
28 2,397
Mower vs lot size advice
jcurr33
03-25-2015 09:29 PM
Yesterday 08:37 AM
by Dan Tanner
5 184
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
Yesterday 08:29 AM
by biglee
5 155
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
Yesterday 08:25 AM
by SGL1
11 527
Trepidation about...
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 07:46 PM
Yesterday 05:35 AM
by Dan Tanner
2 156
How do you get...
ESREVER
03-25-2015 01:30 PM
Yesterday 12:18 AM
by lxarth
7 196
Bid for large home...
lxarth
03-22-2015 11:06 AM
03-27-2015 11:56 PM
by lxarth
8 300
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
03-27-2015 11:42 PM
by lxarth
15 3,437
hoa bid need help
bigdaveha12
03-24-2015 08:29 PM
03-27-2015 11:17 PM
by lxarth
6 221
introducing myself
chris2500hd
03-24-2015 11:16 AM
03-27-2015 02:02 PM
by Steve
8 228
Commercial Jobs
CurbAppeal1
03-25-2015 04:22 PM
03-27-2015 12:29 PM
by biglee
5 189
Flag or no flag
Matther777
03-24-2015 02:41 PM
03-27-2015 12:25 PM
by biglee
10 340
Office Administration...
Girlfriend
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
by Girlfriend
0 75
Is this tree beyond help?
SGL1
03-22-2015 05:35 PM
03-25-2015 08:55 PM
by SGL1
14 493
Opinions on truck wrap
Trupro
02-28-2015 03:21 PM
03-25-2015 07:54 PM
by Trupro
33 1,569
The New Wave!!!! Read...
Jamesw86
03-22-2015 08:33 PM
03-25-2015 02:50 PM
by Steve
10 316
grass in the gas tank
robkattankate
03-23-2015 04:37 PM
03-25-2015 02:36 PM
by Steve
5 189
Helping others
hansenslawncare
09-15-2011 08:50 PM
03-25-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
11 2,662
DOT Number
acrajchel
03-20-2015 05:56 PM
03-25-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
7 319
Michelin x tweel.
apmAkron
03-23-2015 04:22 PM
03-24-2015 12:40 PM
by Steve
3 142
spike aerator???
Bradcook21
03-21-2015 01:55 PM
03-24-2015 10:32 AM
by acrajchel
4 223
Hello from Maryland
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 12:44 PM
03-23-2015 07:33 PM
by michellemarvin
2 134
hello from south GA.
CCandALawnCare
03-23-2015 03:46 AM
03-23-2015 07:06 PM
by CCandALawnCare
2 131
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
03-23-2015 06:14 PM
by jethro
1,218 380,132
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 11:30 AM
03-23-2015 12:28 PM
by Steve
9 838
35,000 Eddm
greenscaper123
03-18-2015 12:51 PM
03-23-2015 11:48 AM
by BLC7
18 476
Should i take on this...
christw
03-17-2013 01:23 PM
03-22-2015 09:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
36 7,569
mower stalls when...
boog
03-19-2015 08:20 AM
03-21-2015 08:13 PM
by Wolf4dk
7 269
Weed and Feed
robkattankate
03-19-2015 09:00 PM
03-21-2015 01:53 PM
by Bradcook21
4 314
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
03-20-2015 10:00 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 3,623
Hello Emily Reyes from...
Webster14829
03-20-2015 11:23 AM
03-20-2015 03:36 PM
by Steve
2 184
Finally going to give it...
jcurr33
03-12-2015 08:09 PM
03-20-2015 03:31 PM
by Steve
10 556
Weed id?
SGL1
03-17-2015 08:20 PM
03-20-2015 02:37 PM
by Steve
6 288
Mobile small engine...
luckylogger
03-15-2015 02:05 PM
03-20-2015 06:17 AM
by jrs.landscaping
15 489
Brad Cook 21
SC93
03-16-2015 10:40 PM
03-19-2015 09:04 PM
by Bradcook21
4 361
honest opinion please
uppercut
02-17-2015 01:30 AM
03-18-2015 02:55 PM
by Steve
15 1,330
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 04:07 PM
03-18-2015 02:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
21 2,034
new to the site
bigdaveha12
03-17-2015 09:13 PM
03-18-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
1 213
Small dovetail truck...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-04-2015 06:47 PM
03-17-2015 10:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
17 869
New Site Hows it look
Infinitelawn
03-16-2015 10:32 AM
03-17-2015 08:15 PM
by SGL1
3 288
mulch questions
Bradcook21
03-08-2015 08:37 AM
03-17-2015 07:00 PM
by Bradcook21
23 1,005
Scag hydro w/b frame...
Just for Cuts
03-11-2015 03:32 PM
03-17-2015 06:37 PM
by lxarth
11 506
Buy new or used?
lxarth
12-26-2014 09:50 PM
03-17-2015 06:11 PM
by lxarth
14 1,716
New to 2015
Infinitelawn
03-16-2015 08:29 AM
03-17-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
4 298
Pulling trailer was...
SGL1
03-07-2015 07:14 PM
03-17-2015 08:11 AM
by SGL1
30 1,147
Diesel conversion?
Just for Cuts
03-02-2015 09:59 AM
03-16-2015 03:26 PM
by Just for Cuts
10 648
trimmer racks.
apmAkron
03-12-2015 09:07 AM
03-16-2015 03:17 PM
by Steve
4 367
» Popular Tags
apartment complex auger bark billy goat brushcutter blades blowout bob villa collections commercial design edging employee problems equipment rental ferris flyers foreman free advertising grass growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring husqvarna hydraulic introduction john deere quik trac landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website marketing more customers business mr dave new business ordinance past due patio install per hour charge pricing profit on employee pto push versus ride running a business scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shell small engine repair square foot sulky toro grand stand trailer tree trimmer rack truck new used landscape walk behind web design website website design winterization won't return
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:52 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:52 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy