Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Bids


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-25-2012, 07:16 PM
Matther777's Avatar
Matther777 Matther777 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 159
Rep Power: 3
Matther777 is on a distinguished road
Question Bids

Well hello I am new here I have been curious on how to really bid?
If I am able to go out and do the free estimate do i just look at the yard and say "hmm yea about 35" or measure the yard itself to be exact on size and figure price from that. I hope this makes sense please let me know if I need to clarify this more.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 06-25-2012, 09:54 PM
Apex Lawn & Landscape Apex Lawn & Landscape is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pittsburgh suburbs
Posts: 384
Rep Power: 0
Apex Lawn & Landscape is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Have you come up with an hrly rate? Do you work alone? Google how to come up with square footage, buy a measuring wheel and figure out yourself a rate per lot size..How long is it gonna take? Are there dogs/Pool/Fences/Trampolines? Flat? Safe area to unload your equipment? Is the Potential customer a Cheap A** / A real F*ing pita? Whats your drive time to this yard? Whats the going rate in your area? Bi weekly or weekly? Do you know how thick the grass gets over 2 weeks? Fortunately youve come to the right place! all your answers lie in this website. Best Of Luck
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-25-2012, 10:08 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Trial and error, baby. Trial and error.

Once you screw yourself on a few bids, you'll start to figure it out.
It takes some time to "eyeball" it accurately. It's easy if you work in an area with cookie cutter lawns, but when you deal with varying sizes, shapes, and incomes, it can be tricky.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-25-2012, 10:48 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Without the 'legal' expenses which can be annoying to figure out for each individual, you will need income to afford a lot of things that you might not even know about.

Every single thing it takes for you to run your business must be broken down and accounted for, or else you could end up broke not knowing what happened!

I suggest for you to save all of your receipts for a year, and then you'll have an idea of what you are spending and how much money you'll need to make.

Hope this helps!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-26-2012, 10:54 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,192
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
If I am able to go out and do the free estimate do i just look at the yard and say "hmm yea about 35" or measure the yard itself to be exact on size and figure price from that.
I think most of the time, new lawn care business owners get a basic idea of what the going rate is in their area for a standard sized lawn and then go out and bid within that range regardless of any other factors.

Now since they do this, there is a high failure rate because they work a week, month, or season, then look in their bank account and find there is nothing. No profit from their work is left. Why? Because they didn't take into account what their expenses are.

If you want to improve your chances of success, you need to know your costs so you can figure out what you need to charge to cover them and then make a profit on top of all that.

If you want to explore this further. Create a list of what your expenses are to operate.

How much are you spending on gas per week? Insurance? How much are you saving to replace equipment? Salary? etc etc..

Most new lawn care business owner don't want to explore this because it can get complicated and scary to know what you need to make in order to be profitable but the more you explore it, the better your chances will of finding success.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-26-2012, 06:36 PM
Matther777's Avatar
Matther777 Matther777 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 159
Rep Power: 3
Matther777 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks guys I will do some more research. I was thinking of getting a cheap measuring wheel and use that for the estimate. It sounds like once I get out there I will learn from experience. To add to that note I have experience with this type of job I am just tried of working for somebody and would rather do this on my own.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-26-2012, 07:30 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matther777 View Post
Thanks guys I will do some more research. I was thinking of getting a cheap measuring wheel and use that for the estimate. It sounds like once I get out there I will learn from experience. To add to that note I have experience with this type of job I am just tried of working for somebody and would rather do this on my own.

Then you have an advantage over someone starting from scratch. At least you have some idea how long "this lawn" will take to complete.
When I started, I knew how long it took to cut MY lawn, but when I looked at a much larger property that had obstacles, hills, trees, etc, I had no idea.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-26-2012, 11:45 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Why measuring the size of a property is useless.

There are so many variables to consider when pricing, or even accepting a job. It is my mission to explain each of these variables to you.

When I approach a lawn, thousands of questions come to mind like;

Are there any hills? Hills can be difficult to work with. Not only are they dangerous, wear and tear on your lawn mowers tires will actually increase. You might even be required to trim a hill if it is too steep to mow with your lawn mower having to trim a hill can be very taxing on your body, and a complete waste of your valuable time.

Are there any obstacles within the lawn itself, such as trees? The problem with obstacles, is that in order to provide the best quality cut, you must spend a little more time than you normally would on a lawn without obstacles. For example, if you want to make straight lines with your mower but a childrens playset is in your way, you may have to circle around the obstacle several times making sure that your stripes match up correctly on each side.

Not only do obstacles make mowing tedious, but the more obstacles on a lawn, the more trimming is required.

Backyard Entrances. When you are just starting out with a regular 21 lawn mower, back yard entrances are the last thing on your mind. However, if you grow over the next couple of years and decide to purchase a tractor with a wider deck to speed up the time it takes you to cut each lawn you may find that lawns with small backyard entrances become less appealing when you are focused on being productive.

(it's not easy to let a client go when they've been happily with you for a year)

How fast does this clients lawn grow, and can I keep up with it? A really healthy lawn is fantastic, but it can also be your worst nightmare. You have to remember that once you grow your business, you wont have the time to double cut each lawn, or make two visits per week for every client with a healthy lawn unless they are willing to pay the price, which most wont. Mulching longer grass will leave a visible mess behind which may not decompose properly the best thing to do in this scenario, would be to remove the grass clippings from the lawn and once again, you have wasted more time.

Fertilizing and over-seeding may be great up-sells, but only if you can keep up with the lawn later on when it becomes time to mow.

Client Priority. When you are expecting rain, you may be more interested in completing a large amount of lawns versus completing one individual lawn which will require more of your time. This means that the longer a job takes, this lawn will usually be saved for last more often when racing against expected rainfall heaven forbid that it rains often in your area as this could sabotage your reputation with this client.

Parking. When you arrive to a property with your truck and trailer, you will want to park near the lawn you plan on cutting. If there is a lot of traffic, and you are unable to park directly in front of your clients lawn, parking anywhere else is a danger to not only your equipment, but yourself and anyone working with you who must cross the road.

Socializing. Having a client who enjoys your company may sound like a good thing, but as you grow this can become detrimental to the success of your business. Not only can you lose a lot of time without accomplishing anything, but depending on your character, your client may be able to take advantage of you. Your client may pressure you into doing free favors for them because you have let yourself become their friend.

The last thing you want, is for a client to expect more from you than what they are paying you for, just because you have been friendly with them. When the time comes, and you cannot live up to their expectations of doing something for free or going out of your way for them, you can expect your client to be easily offended. You will now have to live with a feeling of guilt, even if you did nothing wrong.

All it takes is for just one client to take the feeling of being in control away from you, and that could cause you to suffer the effects of anxiety, depression, and so forth.

-


Written by Cheese2009, with love.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-27-2012, 10:56 PM
Matther777's Avatar
Matther777 Matther777 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 159
Rep Power: 3
Matther777 is on a distinguished road
Default

Ah thanks again these are great tips. Well one advantage is it doesnt rain often here and as you may of heard on the news in Colorado we are in a bit of DRY weather.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bids, cost, measure

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bids skalberg23 Starting a lawn care business. 1 03-19-2010 06:42 PM
Commercial bids ledfut Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 10-13-2008 02:57 PM
09 Bids and Contracts cutritelawncareinc General Business Discussions 7 09-09-2008 06:41 PM
HOA Accepting Bids GeeGood Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 1 05-07-2008 07:38 AM
Government bids? Steve General Business Discussions 4 11-04-2007 11:37 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Today 12:20 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
78 4,423
Left handed edging with...
SGL1
07-23-2014 08:59 PM
Yesterday 10:56 PM
by SGL1
10 176
new trailer help
mattthelawnguy
07-11-2014 08:21 PM
Yesterday 06:31 PM
by mattthelawnguy
13 429
Echo Edger 'Neutral'
WesleySnips
Yesterday 05:28 PM
Yesterday 05:58 PM
by Just for Cuts
1 41
Single tree, mow customer
WesleySnips
06-27-2014 10:12 AM
Yesterday 05:43 PM
by WesleySnips
13 552
New from Texas
Livingston Lawn Care
Yesterday 11:17 AM
Yesterday 01:47 PM
by Steve
1 58
You know it;s gonna be a...
stevef1201
Yesterday 08:50 AM
Yesterday 01:34 PM
by Steve
1 62
Customer letters
kslawn
07-23-2014 06:17 AM
Yesterday 01:20 PM
by Steve
5 153
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
Yesterday 11:29 AM
Yesterday 01:18 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 71
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
07-24-2014 07:09 PM
by SGL1
29 1,207
Need help determining...
Jbss861
07-20-2014 02:33 PM
07-24-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
13 340
Should I ?
googus
07-22-2014 04:06 PM
07-24-2014 12:10 PM
by Steve
4 181
My First Apartment...
SSLCtn
05-26-2014 10:17 PM
07-24-2014 06:46 AM
by kslawn
15 880
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
07-24-2014 06:38 AM
by kslawn
3 189
Selling lawns like...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:51 PM
07-24-2014 06:28 AM
by kslawn
3 235
Scag new "Eliminator"......
ExtremeLawncareServices
07-20-2014 10:45 AM
07-23-2014 05:37 PM
by Just for Cuts
9 264
need professional advice...
Fiddlers_green
07-20-2014 07:21 PM
07-23-2014 12:42 PM
by Steve
3 172
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 10:20 PM
07-23-2014 12:40 PM
by Steve
15 1,364
Lawn Service back in...
LawnCareMan280
07-18-2014 09:00 PM
07-23-2014 11:48 AM
by Steve
4 215
Overspray?
stevef1201
07-21-2014 04:20 PM
07-23-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
3 119
Hello Everyone! Newbie...
SLKlawn
07-17-2014 06:22 PM
07-22-2014 01:53 PM
by Steve
6 254
Proper height for lawn
rob lederhilger
05-26-2014 08:01 AM
07-21-2014 02:53 PM
by LawnDoctor
9 644
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 12:31 PM
07-21-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
9 478
What's my business worth?
Chaz
07-16-2014 01:35 PM
07-21-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
4 262
1.5 Acre Jungle
WesleySnips
07-15-2014 05:57 PM
07-20-2014 11:31 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 574
Gopher schedule software
Ray
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
by Ray
0 152
2006 Chevy fuel pump...
KevinsLawns
07-17-2014 08:39 PM
07-18-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 156
Halfway point of year!
Steve
07-01-2014 12:08 PM
07-18-2014 11:38 AM
by Steve
14 704
I got told to leave and...
gwilson98
06-16-2014 02:07 PM
07-17-2014 11:43 AM
by Steve
16 1,018
Hey guys this is the...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-07-2014 08:23 PM
07-16-2014 08:10 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
28 743
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
07-16-2014 05:00 PM
by Just for Cuts
18 679
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
07-15-2014 05:38 PM
by icon2000
1,184 319,096
need some help geting...
dalvan0
07-13-2014 09:28 PM
07-15-2014 11:56 AM
by Steve
5 255
Classified Ad Template...
bcfb
06-05-2013 02:40 AM
07-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
15 3,690
Husqvarna pz 60
CDLAWNCARE
07-06-2014 06:50 PM
07-15-2014 08:53 AM
by kslawn
10 434
Lowballers
Chaz
07-11-2014 03:55 PM
07-14-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
5 358
My new side job
Sprinkler Buddy
05-10-2014 05:23 AM
07-14-2014 12:15 PM
by Steve
10 816
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
07-13-2014 10:36 PM
by GoGreenerKS
10 539
New Mower and Trailer
Chaz
06-25-2014 12:04 PM
07-13-2014 06:25 PM
by SGL1
7 550
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
07-12-2014 07:36 PM
by SGL1
21 1,867
Fuel and fuel additives
SGL1
07-06-2014 10:23 AM
07-11-2014 07:53 PM
by SGL1
15 535
Questions for a patchy...
jumcgee
07-09-2014 08:42 AM
07-11-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
1 204
toro proline blades wont...
boog
06-25-2014 06:26 PM
07-11-2014 05:28 AM
by kslawn
18 639
Contents of Marketing to...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-09-2014 05:25 PM
07-10-2014 03:23 PM
by Steve
3 299
Shindaiwa
CLB454
05-13-2014 09:04 PM
07-10-2014 03:04 PM
by Steve
14 781
Starting New in FL
mmcuttrim
08-06-2010 09:22 AM
07-10-2014 02:44 PM
by Steve
48 11,260
Bid help 45 on acre...
Priggan
06-26-2014 12:56 PM
07-09-2014 08:38 AM
by kslawn
7 517
need help bidding fence...
veteranslawncaresystems
07-03-2014 10:33 AM
07-08-2014 12:00 PM
by Steve
5 381
Trimmer or Knife?
gwilson98
07-04-2014 09:56 PM
07-07-2014 02:41 PM
by Steve
6 342
Started a New Solar Lawn...
Solar Lawn Care
06-08-2013 01:40 AM
07-07-2014 01:55 PM
by Steve
37 7,416
» Popular Tags
4wd advertisement article marketing auger bid butterfly gardens charge christmas lighting christmas light service courtesy call customers decorating estimate exmark ferris first truck fundraiser gopherhaul grass gravely hills holiday holiday decorating holiday lighting how much to charge introduction john deere quik trac lawn lawn care lawn care business book lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website leaf lighting marketing monthly mow mulch mulch price new buisness new mower organize outdoor environments payment podcast property management company pto reo scag schedule scripts seo snow starting a business starting a lawn care business start up lawn care business steve stihl theft toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack walker winter winter services zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy