Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes
Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.

Not a pro - 73 year old trying to troubleshoot my problem-


Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-23-2012, 11:21 PM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default Not a pro - 73 year old trying to troubleshoot my problem-

Retired 10 years ago from GM - air conditioning & refrigeration operating engineer.

Approximately 90 feet of Rainbird 1800`s (10 heads). The 2 corners are 45 the 8 others are 90 heads. The first 45 pops up and seems normal. The second (90) head seems to be spraying way more than normal (higher pressure)? As it goes down line the next two pop up all the way but don`t seem to have normal coverage. After that the rest of the heads only pop up slightly - maybe two inches and very low pressure or coverage.
System installed in 1998 - professionally, worked perfectly till this year. This is zone 4 of 8 all other zones working normally. I have just replaced the last 5 heads with new heads because they were all lower than normal so since I had to dig them up to raise them to a proper height.

Don't know anyone else to ask.

Tom Mann
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 05-24-2012, 11:28 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,415
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Could you draw out a quick diagram? I think that might help nail down an answer.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-25-2012, 08:48 AM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Could you draw out a quick diagram? I think that might help nail down an answer.
Zone 4.pdf Diagram as requested.

Thanks,

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-25-2012, 08:47 PM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbmann@comcast.net View Post
Attachment 5216 Diagram as requested.

Thanks,

Tom
Important revision: 30 year old maple tree in zone 4 located near heads 3 & 4..
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Revised Zone 4.pdf (21.0 KB, 8 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-28-2012, 09:02 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,415
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I do wonder if the other zones have the same amount of sprinkler heads. If they have less, that could effect the pressure in the line. Also, we don't know if there had been a decrease in pressure in the neighborhood over time (possibly due to more water use in the area).

I would think it is a pressure issue. The lack of pressure is going to effect the ability of the sprinklers to pop up and cover the desired area.

What if you capped the first couple of sprinkler heads, you could then see if the increase in pressure is effecting the other heads down the line. Or you might still have low pressure and it could be a leak in the line causing the decrease in pressure?

Keep us posted.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-31-2012, 11:05 AM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I do wonder if the other zones have the same amount of sprinkler heads. If they have less, that could effect the pressure in the line. Also, we don't know if there had been a decrease in pressure in the neighborhood over time (possibly due to more water use in the area).

I would think it is a pressure issue. The lack of pressure is going to effect the ability of the sprinklers to pop up and cover the desired area.

What if you capped the first couple of sprinkler heads, you could then see if the increase in pressure is effecting the other heads down the line. Or you might still have low pressure and it could be a leak in the line causing the decrease in pressure?

Keep us posted.
All the pressures in all zones are great. With no water from the zone 4 (off at the controller) what I did today was cut into the MAIN 1" line at head 3 - inserted an elbow with 1" slip fitting to 3/4' thread. So this left the left side open. Now, I Hooked my garden hose to the 3/4 coupling turned the hose on and BINGO - all heads to the right 4 -10 POP'ed full up with full coverage....! This at least now shows me that the problem is to the left with 3 heads to deal with.

Next I'll inject the hose into the left side where I cut the main and see what that does. I maybe able to insert a 1/4" drain auger, not trying to cut through anything, just to see how far it goes in toward the left. I just have a feeling the 30 year old maple tree roots may have pinched down on the main pipe somewhere in the left area.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-01-2012, 10:20 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,415
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

That is some great investigative work! Nice job! Take some pictures as you go. I'd love to see what you find. Also keep us posted on what you find next.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-05-2012, 04:47 PM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
That is some great investigative work! Nice job! Take some pictures as you go. I'd love to see what you find. Also keep us posted on what you find next.
Found a pinched line. This helped some but did not solve problem completely. Because the roots were now soooo big - I finally called a sprinkler service that used a "TRENCHER" to cut a 20 foot trench next to the original main. Replaced the main and connected it to my original cut point and FINALLY - problem SOLVED!!! At my age I could not have cut through all of the roots for 20 feet!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-05-2012, 08:15 PM
tbmann@comcast.net tbmann@comcast.net is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sterling Hts, Mi
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 3
tbmann@comcast.net is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbmann@comcast.net View Post
Found a pinched line. This helped some but did not solve problem completely. Because the roots were now soooo big - I finally called a sprinkler service that used a "TRENCHER" to cut a 20 foot trench next to the original main. Replaced the main and connected it to my original cut point and FINALLY - problem SOLVED!!! At my age I could not have cut through all of the roots for 20 feet!!!!
Sorry I forgot to include some pictures....
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1st.jpg (200.1 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg 2nd.jpg (86.8 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg 3.jpg (127.6 KB, 9 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-06-2012, 11:37 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,415
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

WOW! Ain't that something! You just never know for sure what is going on with those lines until you dig them up like that!

Very fascinating!
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
irrigation, troubleshooting

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Problem CHEESE2009 Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. 9 04-04-2012 04:33 AM
having a big problem!!!!! dell Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 08-31-2011 02:49 PM
Cat Problem tomcat172002 Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. 9 08-06-2009 09:57 PM
Problem Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 03-09-2006 03:29 PM
Problem Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 0 03-09-2006 03:17 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Sprinkler head guards...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-27-2014 04:55 AM
Yesterday 09:05 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 289
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
Yesterday 06:02 PM
Yesterday 06:02 PM
by WesleySnips
0 62
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
Yesterday 04:59 PM
by jrs.landscaping
13 662
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
Yesterday 04:20 PM
by tbtigers03
4 233
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
Yesterday 03:16 PM
by Steve
2 191
hey
sizemorelawncare
09-28-2014 08:12 PM
Yesterday 03:10 PM
by Steve
2 162
Update on LawnsAway and...
Ian Lovejoy
09-28-2014 10:24 AM
Yesterday 03:09 PM
by Steve
2 212
Need to figure out how...
tjslawnde
09-28-2014 10:31 AM
Yesterday 03:05 PM
by Steve
4 234
Aerocore Deck?
wdrdoctor
09-26-2014 06:21 PM
Yesterday 02:36 PM
by Steve
3 367
Hello from CNY
arazucontracting
09-22-2014 06:07 PM
Yesterday 02:33 PM
by Steve
3 637
How to price lawn mowing.
jack2048
09-24-2014 04:18 PM
Yesterday 02:27 PM
by Steve
4 483
Pricing ????
6295danny
01-14-2013 07:54 PM
Yesterday 02:22 PM
by Steve
35 6,501
30 Inch Push Mowers Pros...
Billy Goat
06-27-2013 08:07 PM
09-27-2014 04:11 PM
by SGL1
30 7,001
Kohler command carb...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 03:09 PM
09-26-2014 06:08 PM
by jrs.landscaping
23 1,023
Replacing a Shindi T-27
Dan Tanner
09-13-2014 12:59 PM
09-26-2014 04:16 PM
by stevef1201
5 1,032
Looking for feed back on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-17-2014 08:38 AM
09-25-2014 09:18 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
10 1,058
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
09-25-2014 08:01 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
124 9,237
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 09:07 PM
09-23-2014 11:13 AM
by Steve
4 733
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
09-22-2014 08:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
11 1,119
Not sure, but anyone do...
SnowRemoval2k14
09-22-2014 12:10 AM
09-22-2014 04:49 PM
by Steve
1 678
Tribulations of working...
stevef1201
09-13-2014 08:37 AM
09-22-2014 04:45 PM
by Steve
9 1,011
Mulching beds
Bradcook21
09-21-2014 07:43 AM
09-22-2014 04:43 PM
by Steve
3 751
Scag turf tiger hydrolic...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-04-2014 10:55 PM
09-22-2014 04:35 PM
by Steve
12 1,378
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
09-21-2014 09:23 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 1,389
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
09-19-2014 03:29 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,621
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
09-19-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
23 2,046
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
09-18-2014 06:32 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
58 7,448
Hello from upstate NY!
A&MLawn&Snow
09-18-2014 11:19 AM
09-18-2014 04:10 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 854
Price to apply fertilizer
SS.Lawncare
09-15-2014 11:10 AM
09-18-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
9 1,039
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
09-01-2014 10:17 AM
09-17-2014 09:57 PM
by curts lawn care
4 1,469
new to the forum
SGlawncare
09-16-2014 11:20 PM
09-17-2014 08:29 PM
by curts lawn care
3 869
Help With Snow Blowing...
Robertf31
09-13-2014 10:55 PM
09-17-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 1,225
Non-Stop Summer?
SouthallMowing
09-14-2014 10:51 PM
09-17-2014 10:48 AM
by stevef1201
6 982
Poll - net income
Dan5082
11-15-2010 08:08 PM
09-16-2014 04:44 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 3,724
Getting lowballed!
PineHillLawn
06-27-2012 07:23 AM
09-16-2014 01:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
24 5,472
Compare this summer to...
Steve
09-03-2014 12:52 PM
09-16-2014 11:20 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
15 1,654
thinking about throwing...
veteranslawncaresystems
09-09-2014 10:31 PM
09-15-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
12 1,372
Hello
Robertf31
09-12-2014 10:34 PM
09-15-2014 03:17 PM
by Steve
2 880
Newbie......Again
Jibber
09-13-2014 12:17 PM
09-15-2014 02:54 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 1,003
need help with starter...
GoGreenerKS
09-12-2014 04:23 PM
09-15-2014 02:25 PM
by Steve
3 926
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
09-15-2014 02:16 PM
by Steve
12 1,717
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
09-15-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 1,447
Employee uniforms
Gerardo_Landscape
01-21-2014 11:11 PM
09-15-2014 02:12 PM
by Steve
5 1,517
Greetings from the north
Northwoods Outdoors
09-13-2014 08:55 AM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Steve
1 873
darleneh
darleneh
09-15-2014 12:33 PM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 907
My 1st bid
WesleySnips
06-11-2014 03:13 PM
09-15-2014 02:05 PM
by Steve
29 2,364
New Aerator
Chaz
09-09-2014 11:43 PM
09-15-2014 01:50 PM
by Steve
9 1,145
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
09-15-2014 01:23 PM
by stevef1201
8 1,894
getting ready to start
calebmoss
05-23-2011 09:35 PM
09-11-2014 12:21 PM
by Steve
34 11,813
Stihl pull cord replace
SGL1
09-03-2014 09:22 PM
09-10-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
9 1,313
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate article marketing auger bid care charge collections subcontractor decorating deliquentaccounts exmark ferris foreman fundraiser gopherhaul grass gravely health hills holiday lighting honda how much to charge husqvarna installation john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lighting brass outdoor lights managing a lawn care business marketing monthly mulch mulch price new buisness podcast promotion push versus ride redmax savannah scag schedule scripts seo snow snow plowing starting a business starting a lawn care business stihl sulky theft theft of services top dresser toro tractor auger trailer turfgrass consulting walk behind walker wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy