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Old 06-27-2012, 01:49 PM
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As a businessman, I believe that if this site were to offer anything more to us, it would come with a fee.

There is no justification for making something extra for us to utilize, with absolutely no return value.

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A private section would be lovely, and if users are paying for its use, then we would be 'recurring' users who have a better chance of not abandoning the site (once again this sill doesn't matter, yet).

With a private section, the site would be able to generate an extra source of income that doesn't involve selling ad-space, and that's nice!


This is the only way adding a private section could ever be justified:
I would charge a fee, and I would also have several rules.
Rule #1 would allow for me to manipulate certain private posts (replacing company names and private info) so that I could continue to have content for the non-private area, blog, and YouTube channel.

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How much are we willing to pay? Personally I hate paying for stuff, but I also love this site very much, and I would like to see it develop.

A good example of why we would pay to be apart of this site:
This site is established, and generates massive amounts of users - this is helpful to us all. Just like sub-contracting, we work for someone else who can provide jobs (users) that we wouldn't be able to obtain without it.

So now the real question is, how much are you willing to pay to continue talking to me? How much money is it worth to have a social network completely related to what we do for a living?

YES Facebook is free, but it doesn't compare. This site full-on caters to our minority, and it's worth something to have that.
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This really is a very simple concept that need not be as complicated as anyone is making it.

I know of forums that require a fee, or a certain number of posts to gain access to the "private" section. I wouldn't pay a fee unless the return was worth it - a private sub-forum is not worth a fee to me.
"Post count" access just creates post whores and "PLUS 1!" posts from mindless idiots in order to gain access to the section where the "Babes Pics" are posted.

The forum I moderate simply has a "Lounge" - no fees, no secret handshake, and nothing to "hide". It's simply a section for off-topic threads. Those threads are not searchable, thus keeping it from muddying the waters when people are searching for something that the forum's main focus is about.

Religious discussions, photos of a family trip, questions about car trouble, and yes, a "babe" thread. (no nudity) These are the sorts of things you find in the Lounge. Say what you want there - nobody else will see it.

I dunno... maybe not enough people are familiar with the concept.
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In general, if people want a private section and don't have a private section - these people are unhappy!

people are unhappy

It doesn't matter if some people could live without a private section, its honestly not about them.

It's just as silly as saying, "I want eggs for breakfast" and then someone responding with, "You don't need eggs, you should be like us and eat cereal".

Everything is an opinion, and that's what people here are forgetting. The opinion of those who don't care to have a private section aren't helping in any way.

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Well let's try this out. I changed the off topic section to private http://www.gopherforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49

I am hoping it doesn't quickly turn into a free for all. We all have to remember there is a wide demographic group of readers.
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i could care less if it were to lead to a fee and i fully understand the concept.
i have several other sites that i frequent that have those sections and other then language there really is no benefit.

one site the lounge section usually gets shut down because even for a lounge section they take it too far.

this is a landscape forum for god's sake what the heck would someone be talking about that is so bad or private that would require membership like a **** site?

if it is that graphic in nature or something you wanted to talk about in business that you did not want to discuss with a large crowd but needed to speak to someone specific you can PM them.

i am not against the idea but at the same time it is the farthest least important thing from my mind and i would think isolateing people would be the opposite of what the owner of this site intended it for in the first place.

i mean, currently it is open for all and whether you are dreaming about starting a landscape biz, a homeowner, a single push mower outfit or a full blown money making landscape machine of a company. what criteria will be used to determine the user is a landscape professional and not a home owner trying to slip in and hear about all of our incriminating details?

would we have to mail a company T shirt to the admin for approval? or would we need to send a jpg of our fancy lettered up truck with us standing next to it with todays newspaper attached to our application?.
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You're taking this "secrecy" thing way too literally.
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You're taking this "secrecy" thing way too literally.
i am just having fun with it, what else is there to do?

plus i am not the one with those concerns.
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the benefits of having a forum that is NOT indexed by search engines for new users, who are interested in learning how to properly estimate jobs alove justifies having ONE area of a website that is not indexed/spidered by google, bing, yahoo, etc.



if a company "has been around since before the internet" then the people behind it will quickly find themselves on the way out if they refuse to be willing to adapt to new ideas and concepts in business, as times have changed and people want to do business with people who understand how to properly use the technologies of todays modern world.



we are allll networking here as competitors, of course. it has to be done! you look MORE professional by being able to say "i cant handle that, but i know a crew who can, let me pass you in their direction," which comes from networking. i am not denying, griping, talking about or arguing with networking!




again, the idea is not to seclude people from other businessmen - christ on a cracker, it's to not be indexed by search engines only.


to not be indexed by search eniges.

it's not about some "weird secrecy" for us to be nefarious, irresponsible goons.


it's for business matters that busi9nessmen would rather talk only with other businessmen.






if you dont understand how a search engine indexes websites, than you are behind the curve of modern technology.


there's nothing wrong with not knowing that, as you can learn.


if you do not want to learn, you do not want to evolve, then you miss out.




me? i learn something new everyday. i am a grown, 33 year old man, and i keep learning non stop. i still read books, i dont watch tv, and i eat up information by the spoonful.


i digress.


i would like to thank steve for giving it a shot. at least he understands that it isn't about people wanting to be morons on his forum. hopefully the rest of you do as well.


and lastly, if you folks dont want to use the private sub forum, then don't use it! simple math!



it bewilders me that this thread has taken up 6 pages of conversation and over 1,000 views! wow. that says a lot about something

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this thread should be moved into the private forum, if you ask me.
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this thread should be moved into the private forum, if you ask me.
I was slowly reading all the new posts, and this one made me spill my glass of water man... LMFAO

Good one!
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