Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorLawn
if you guys don't understand that business is PRIVATE, then what more can i say? it's like banging my head into a brick wall on this thread.
to all of you, not just you dr. grass - i am not just writing back to you - if you don't get it by now, one last time - the (caps are used politely to express a point, not to yell) IDEA is THIS,
we as users, have access to, one forum which is NOT public to all other users (i.e. non registered users, google indexing services, etc.)
the forum is still public, but one "part" of the forum is "members only"
one last time, this "members only" forum is not accessible to non-registered users or google and other search engine indexing.
the search engine indexing is really my only concern.
but again, some of you guys just miss the mark on this idea. i don't know why. i won't bash anyone or put you guys down who don't get it, even though it's such a basic concept that a child would understand it, but it's probably time i found another forum. i am obviously incompatible with the majority (not all) member base of this forum. it's me, not you, i guess. i would like something more than what some of you people are used to having.
i've said pretty much everything i have to say in this thread. i'm outta here.
your right, business is private and there are some things that will not be discussed whether the forum is members only or not.
you need to be a member to post here so what would stop someone from being a member just to veiw the posts? oh, i get it we just have to show our landscapers license and expiration date prior to signing up and that will weed out all the undesireables.
i take exception to what you say and maybe you are right that you need another forum.
unlike you or any others that are web site obsessed i come here for pleasure to discuss whatever i see intrests me with people who have the same landscapers mindset as myself.
i been around a lot longer then the internet and although it has its uses you don't need it to survive or make a buck and trust me when i say it that it is not gonna get you away from those push mowers or bent shaft string trimmers any time soon unless you have the cash and you are useing the internet shopping for a real mower.
i don't think it is a matter of anyone getting it or not as much as it don't really matter or at least as much as you think it does.
you say you don't want to bash anyone but yet you do, you say that a child could understand it and maybe, just maybe that is who would only care about it.
it seems today the younger you are the more important and critical the internet is and that is where the trouble lies because it is not that important.
go back 20 years and nobody had a cell phone or a computer because it was too expensive and still not developed to what it is today and the world did just fine.
people still got to where they needed to go and people still found the goods and services they desired and businesses still made piles of money.
fast forward to today, and people can not go anywhere without haveing their phone glued to their heads or fingers tapping away at it and if they are not out and about they are glued to their computers chatting away.
people today have no social skills, are nasty to one another and can not think for themselves or do a dam thing without the internet and the biggest drop off in our society as a whole and what it has become directly coincides with the information age.
back in my day we still networked with our competitors and other businesses but we had organized groups and did it locally and face to face and as much as i like places like this, it is not nearly as effective as it was when we did it the way we did back then.
the advantage i see from this today is i get to converse with other landscapers from coast to coast and north to south as well as some of our neihbors to the north in canada.
it gives me great insight to how different the trade is from region to region in priceing and how long the work season is as well as if someone buys a new machine that i may be interested in i get to ask them questions and get their review.
for example: i have always used the big walk behind bed shapers and they work very well and are powerfull and are excellent for cutting new beds and other then that we would use the string trimmer for touch ups.
i got intrested in the stick edgers and asked around on this site and everyone gave high marks.
so i bought a couple of them and they work great and are faster then the string trimmer and my guys love them.
they can not shine the bed shapers shoes for big jobs with a lot of cutting but they are worth every penny.
i probably would have bought them anyway but it was nice having a place to get some feed back.
i am making high six digits a year and not one dime of it comes from the internet or my " web site " even though i do have one it is there for information purposes for potential customers to familiarize themselves more with my company before we meet face to face.
selling a job is gonna come from how much personallity you have and your abillity to sell a job and deal with people as well as delivering on your promises and no web site or goole search engine is gonna do that for you.
this industry revolves around human interaction.
once again if you are worried about search engine indexing then use a different name because maybe i am od fashioned or " just don't get it " as you would say but i would never use my business name or full personal name on the internet with the exception of my web site.
you are free to go where you like and you are free to stay that is your choice but i think you need to step back a little and smell the roses and enjoy what we have here because what you are looking for i am afraid you are never going to find and if you do find it i think you will discover it is not gonna help you as much as you think it will.