Originally Posted by willshome
I understand thinking letting others knowing your "pricing info or methodology" is a problem but they can just have a friend call for a quote. I think talking to others and helping them understand the cost of doing business only helps all of us.
I don't mind losing a job to someone trying to make a real living but to someone charging $15 an hour is like having my job shipped to china
it is not really a question of wanting to share information or not i don't really care about that.
the answers to what to charge are right there for anyone with business sense to figure out.
operating costs are the determining factor in what to charge and my information as to what my cost are and what determines my price is useless for anyone else.
what i mean is that i have 8 employee's plus myself and with all the equipment and insurance and payroll and taxes all add up to a different number then a guy with 20 employees or just by himself.
we can all charge the same rate that the market will bare and we do but how we use that and convert that to your own particular situation varies greatly.
lets say you charge 60.00 per hour labor rate per man and you go do something by yourself and i charge the same but have my 8 employees and myself.
you price the lawn for 60.00 and it takes you a hour you did well, you worked a hour and got payed your rate a hour.
in my situation i obviously with the large crew will get things done lickity split but i have to and a 60.00 lawn needs to be done in like 7 minutes.
i know it is not the best of examples because i do commercial work and would not be sending 8 guys to cut a sixty dollar lawn.
with all that said, i would always be willing to help someone and offer advice and give them the information they need to figure it out but there are some things you just don't talk about.
money is generally a private thing, it is just like when you work somewhere and someone says " hey what is the boss paying you per hour? " it is none of your business.
this forum and forums just like it are very usefull and provide a good means for guys in the trade to talk shop, vent frustrations, equipment issues, plant health care issues and general business talk. but some things in life you got to figure out for yourself and there are no free passes and the sometimes horrible experiences of pricing poorly need to be lived in order to make your business strong and prosper.
plus, to top it off we are all over the country and canada on this forum and the costs of insurance's and taxes and regulations from region to region as well as what each regions market will bare vary so greatly all our numbers would not jive anyway.