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Old 06-09-2012, 01:15 PM
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I had written an example of how someone could set themselves up for failure. Enjoy!

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When you first started your lawn maintenance company, you probably took any job that came your way. Regardless of how minimal the payoff was, you were proud to have been hired. You believed that obtaining any client meant success.

This false feeling of success had driven you into a trap. Your schedule is finally booked and yet you are now feeling: exhausted, stressed, anxious, and even guilty. You have too much work for yourself, but not enough money to hire a helper. This doesn't make sense to you.

You are beginning to think that you will need to obtain more clients, but you've now become too discouraged to even bother. The thought of how happy your clients are with you is the only thing that keeps you going. You take pride in the idea of being liked by your clients, and that makes you feel as though you are doing the right thing.

Over time, you finally begin to realize that you aren't achieving anything. You started your company in order to make good money, but now it feels as though you would be better off working for someone else. You have even let the quality of your work slip because you felt the passion to provide quality slip away.

You start to question yourself, “where did I go wrong?”.

The truth...

You have a lot of work, because you are cheap.
You have no money, because you are cheap.
Your clients only like you, because you are cheap.
Your willingness to provide quality work has vanished, because you are cheap.

Once you figure this out, you realize that you are going to have to start fresh. You are going to have to confront your clients and let them know that your price has gone up, and this time, they wont even bother hiring you again.

You have most likely wasted a season or more waiting for this business related life lesson to come out of hiding, but at least you now know what needs to be done.

When running your business you now know the following...

1. You are a business man, not a savior.
2. It is not a loss if you are too expensive for some people.
3. Most favors will now cost your clients extra, you are not a charity – and you need to eat!
4. You choose to avoid offering service for those who will burden you with guilt or cause you any amount of stress. You really don't need them!
5. You call the shots, not your clients.

You now have good paying customers, and more time to provide quality work for them. The passion for what you do has come back, and you are feeling a lot more confident. You are FINALLY getting what you deserve. It takes a little bit longer to obtain clients, but it's WORTH THE WAIT!!!
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You make very good points. I rather work one day a week and make $500 profit then burn myself out working everyday for $1000 profit.

When I look at my gross numbers from year 1 and 2. The business grew about 25% but my profit was 50% higher. I also worked less year 2 and had more help.

It wasnt hard to figure out I was getting better jobs at better prices. I turn down as much work as I take now. Some dont understand that but you know a **** job when you see it.
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I used to work construction (and still do if the moneys right) and we always had a saying when trying to get a new job.

You can pick two of the following: Fast, Cheap, or Quality

You can have Fast and Cheap but you won't get Quality!

You can have Cheap and Quality but you won't get if Fast!

You can have Fast and Quality but it won't be Cheap!

I think this kind of pertains to Lawn Care too.
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Absolutely.

I figured this out in my first season. (last year)
I saw that my schedule was filled with low-paying jobs and that if I were to make more money, I'd need to work longer hours, or drop the low-pays and replace them with better jobs.

That process has begun this year. I haven't dropped anyone yet, but any of the slots that have opened due to a client moving, or things of that nature have been "reserved" for jobs that pay more. I've passed on a lot of crappy properties this season. Sure, I could use the money, but it does me no good to lock myself into a commitment where I'm "mowing angry" because I (a) hate the property, or (b) know I could be making more elsewhere.
I've also successfully added clients that DO pay more. It takes longer, but it's SO much nicer to know you are being paid what you are worth.

Some of the problems related to getting "stuck" with low-pay jobs when starting out is dictated by the equipment you use. I started with a 21" push mower and there is a threshold that you hit when you realize you can't make ANY profit by taking on a lawn that eats up too much of your time.
You can get $40 for a lawn that takes you 45 minutes to an hour to cut and someone with better equipment can get that same lawn finished in 15-20 minutes and still get paid the $40. There are only so many hours in a day and your equipment dictates how much you can do and what types of lawns you can take on.

I've added a 36" walk behind this year.
It hasn't improved my time as much as I had hoped, but this is partially due to the fact that my lawns are better suited for push mowing. Hilly, uneven, obstacle-ridden... you need to take on properties that allow you to work efficiently with the equipment you use.
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yes this is very true and this being my first year, i have almost fallen into that trap myself. I told my cheap customers that at the price I give them that give them is based on me being able to do the lawn at my convenience (a few days sway and I dont want to hear complaining basically) 3 dropped and the rest STFU so I am trying to find better lawns close to them to balance it out. I dont do contracts with these customers btw, I make them prepay a month in advance. I still make 75% of my money doing tree trimming and removal so I really dont care
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I did the sme thing, but as I got more better jobs, I dropped poor jobs. Now have about 20 customers, make just under 2K a week. Work about 30 hrs a week unless I get caught up in the yak yak with customer
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I can totally understand if someone fills up their work week with minimal paying customers, some people have no choice but to become desperate, but the consequences for doing so can hurt your morale.

I have to constantly argue with my guy, as we have a lot more free time this year due to only accepting high paying customers - and he would like to fill up our time with low paying customers just for 'more money'... sad.

For some strange reason, he had forgotten how he felt when we were completely booked with work and hardly made anything in return, and now he's whining to go down the same path?!?!

I say, "Be patient, we are basically re-starting and already doing extremely well, why do you want to ruin that? Why would you want to waste an entire hour on a lawn full of hills and obstacles for peanuts, only to complain to me about it to me when it gets hot outside? Just be patient, and we will find an easier property that pays more."

Working with someone can become very annoying, note that this person is not a partner, he is an employee with concerns and believes he knows best when he doesn't. I'm not entirely sure why I put up with it, but I do want him to feel apart of this company, and for his voice to be heard.

For example, we missed our Friday lawns due to rain (weekend too). I really want to do our Friday lawns on Monday, before we actually even touch our Monday lawns.

Why? Because our Mondays are low paying, and they will not receive the same price next year, meaning there is a good chance that we will lose them - aka temporary clients vs permanent high paying clients. Also, our Friday lawns may risk 2 weeks without service as this week is full of rain, and I do not want to lose our GOOD clients.

Yet, my guy wants to throw a hissy fit and believes Mondays should be done first. He just doesn't understand the financial aspect of my decision.

I will not sacrifice golden clients for slums, regardless of what my website says, "no client has priority over another", high paying clients come first, they have to - there is no choice!
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I can totally understand if someone fills up their work week with minimal paying customers, some people have no choice but to become desperate, but the consequences for doing so can hurt your morale.

I have to constantly argue with my guy, as we have a lot more free time this year due to only accepting high paying customers - and he would like to fill up our time with low paying customers just for 'more money'... sad.

For some strange reason, he had forgotten how he felt when we were completely booked with work and hardly made anything in return, and now he's whining to go down the same path?!?!

I say, "Be patient, we are basically re-starting and already doing extremely well, why do you want to ruin that? Why would you want to waste an entire hour on a lawn full of hills and obstacles for peanuts, only to complain to me about it to me when it gets hot outside? Just be patient, and we will find an easier property that pays more."

Working with someone can become very annoying, note that this person is not a partner, he is an employee with concerns and believes he knows best when he doesn't. I'm not entirely sure why I put up with it, but I do want him to feel apart of this company, and for his voice to be heard.

For example, we missed our Friday lawns due to rain (weekend too). I really want to do our Friday lawns on Monday, before we actually even touch our Monday lawns.

Why? Because our Mondays are low paying, and they will not receive the same price next year, meaning there is a good chance that we will lose them - aka temporary clients vs permanent high paying clients. Also, our Friday lawns may risk 2 weeks without service as this week is full of rain, and I do not want to lose our GOOD clients.

Yet, my guy wants to throw a hissy fit and believes Mondays should be done first. He just doesn't understand the financial aspect of my decision.

I will not sacrifice golden clients for slums, regardless of what my website says, "no client has priority over another", high paying clients come first, they have to - there is no choice!


I literally just came to these epiphanies myself within the past week or so. I have a friend that cuts $400 worth of lawns a day with a honda commercial 21, 5x8 enclosed trailer and a ford ranger by himself. He says he wont budge on price and they can go find someone else if they dont like my price then they can go find someone else.


I really need to be hardcore like him and never accept bum customers no matter what
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Scott, can you tell us a little about how the guilty feeling plays in here? What causes that guilt and how does one get past it?
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Scott, can you tell us a little about how the guilty feeling plays in here? What causes that guilt and how does one get past it?
Great question!

Personally, I am the type of person who wont tolerate anything unless it's completely subtle, and clients can be very subtle when it comes to making us go out of our way for them.

Here are some mock examples;

Client a: "You are doing a lovely job, but may I ask for you to mow the lawn again just a little bit shorter? Please, if it's not too much trouble for you? I would really appreciate it. Would you like some water?"

Response: "Sure, not a problem" - you basically have no choice.

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Client b: "I'm not too happy about your service. I had left a pile of branches that I figured you would remove for me, but you never did. Please come and take them."

Responce: "I'm sorry but removing branches is not what we do. If you would like for us to take the branches, I'm going to have to charge you $80."

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As you can see, when a client makes a negative assumption/attack, you are able to retaliate with ease by reestablishing your pride and defending yourself. It'll come naturally.

Unfortunately, a lot of clients play the 'good character/client a' more often, and you can find yourself getting stuck doing additional work for nothing all season long. Eventually it will take its toll on you. You provide the additional work only because the client was just so sweet about the situation and you would feel guilty if you had said, "No" or requested payment. This nice client is actually the worst client imaginable, because you can't justify firing him/her, and that's what needs to be done unless you figure out a safe way to charge them more!

There are times where you can even tell these clients you must get paid, but in practice, it's never just that easy. Keep your guard up!!!!

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