Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Shot In The Foot!!


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:48 PM
JLM's Avatar
JLM JLM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunshine State
Age: 36
Posts: 102
Rep Power: 3
JLM is on a distinguished road
Default Shot In The Foot!!

I just shot myself in the foot!! I may need to drop all 16 of my new accounts to pick up this new H.O.A with 150 homes, 4 large common areas, and a clubhouse, all of wich are full service.

I just picked up 16 accounts in the past 3 weeks using target phone calling and door hangers.

In a hurry to pick up more customers I had an awsome marketing idea and IT WORKED toooo well

Now im in a fix, I never thought I would get the results I have gotten....what to do well... here are my options.

1. Drop all 16 of my new customers.
2. Hire 3 men buy a used truck (already have equipment)
3. Not take on the H.O.A...
4. Sub out the 16 homes for a term...I know a fella

I have the funds to take the leap... but if I fall...Im not sure I can get back up.

I think its to soon to expand but thats just me.

Will you please give me your professional opinion

I have 30 days before work begins on the H.O.A
__________________
If you can't be good..Be good at it!
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 05-04-2012, 10:46 PM
Liberty Landscaping LLC Liberty Landscaping LLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Woodbridge, NJ
Posts: 243
Rep Power: 6
Liberty Landscaping LLC is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
The three guys would cover the HOA? Its all about what you would like to do. How long will the hoa take? 16 clients and depending on the size is about 1.5-2 days. With three guys probably one.
__________________
Liberty Landscaping LLC
www.libertylndscpng.com
Woodbridge, NJ
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-04-2012, 11:06 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

I would do it but wouldnt rely on subs. I had a fews subs damage my reputation this winter when they wouldnt show and it took me to long to get there.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-04-2012, 11:21 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

Obviously, you have found what makes you the most money and that is sales. I say if you have the funds then go for it. Hire one good guy as the supervisor and two helpers.

Then you go out and sell more and add another crew. Now go out and get some more HOA accounts and some smaller single accounts to fill in the gaps.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-05-2012, 07:49 AM
OziGardenGuy OziGardenGuy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia.
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 4
OziGardenGuy is on a distinguished road
Default

Just make sure that less than 30% of your income comes from one customer.

I may have misunderstood your post, but it looks like you've hooked a big one and it could, if they leave you, make things difficult.

Please, be prudent.

Cheers - OziGardenGuy.
__________________
www.mygardenguy.com.au Lawn mowing, lawn care and gardening services on Sydney's North Shore.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-05-2012, 10:06 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

i would try to do both and i would not give up the new accounts either because that would tarnish your name.

keep in mind that these hoa's are about as reliable as a wet chinese firecracker.
next year someone comes along and beats your price and you are out the door.
i personally think it is good luck to take on a ton of work because for some strange reason it is always feast or famine, you either are struggleing to get new work or you have more then you can handle and the way it always turns out the work and money always come when you really don't want it.

as soon as you bite the hand that feeds you the karma work gods kick you in the tail.

so i say, run with it and run as fast as you can and never look back and make it while you can and don't look at it as a problem but as a blessing and in these times we live in today there are plenty of guys begging and wishing for the same opportunity.

good luck and all the best.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2012, 12:05 PM
JLM's Avatar
JLM JLM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunshine State
Age: 36
Posts: 102
Rep Power: 3
JLM is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberty Landscaping LLC View Post
The three guys would cover the HOA? Its all about what you would like to do. How long will the hoa take? 16 clients and depending on the size is about 1.5-2 days. With three guys probably one.
H.O.A will take 5 full days with 3 men.
The other 16 clients are all on the same street and take 1.5 days for me to do alone.
__________________
If you can't be good..Be good at it!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2012, 12:24 PM
JLM's Avatar
JLM JLM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunshine State
Age: 36
Posts: 102
Rep Power: 3
JLM is on a distinguished road
Default

Thank you all for your professional advice!

Im going to hire 3 men 1 is my brother who I can trust. On Mondays 2 men will do the street with the 16 homes. The other 2 will begin a section of the H.O.A. (common grounds) 2 men can do this section in one day.

Tuesday we will all be together I bet we can be done by friday...if not we finish on Sat...I called my contact to the H.O.A and she said that Sat work was fine if needed.

Im not taking on anymore work for a while. Gonna dip my toe in the water.
__________________
If you can't be good..Be good at it!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-05-2012, 01:54 PM
stevef1201 stevef1201 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,177
Rep Power: 6
stevef1201 is on a distinguished road
Default

Im not taking on anymore work for a while. Gonna dip my toe in the water.


I can Guarentee that if yo do good work, and your customers are truly happy, you cannot just dip your toes in the water. You better plan on getting up to your neck in the lake. I think you may be looking at needing to get a bank loan to finance more equipment-soon. Contact an lawyer- protect your assests, contact an accountant- taxes etc- protect your assests. Contact your inusrance agent-protect your assests. (are you getting the hint?)

Grow big, grow fast, just make tons of money and please become one of the filthy rich b-stards we all like to complain about.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-06-2012, 11:55 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Congratulations to you on all this work! Keep us posted on how it works out!
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Weed Control : Dimension or snap shot? Apex Lawn & Landscape Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 7 04-30-2012 10:16 AM
per square foot**NJ dallasbarnone Starting a lawn care business. 6 05-14-2009 03:13 PM
Bidding by sq. foot? sasquatchmonk Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 2 04-07-2009 02:15 AM
Try something new and you get shot down Steve General Business Discussions 4 10-09-2007 10:48 PM
20 foot trailer AMW Graphics Truck & Trailer Sign Design, silk screened apparel & uniform discussion 6 04-23-2007 02:43 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 12:45 PM
Today 02:42 PM
by stevef1201
22 6,026
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
Yesterday 09:48 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
174 13,877
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
09-30-2014 06:42 PM
Yesterday 09:38 PM
by TRV
6 1,231
Contract or no contract?
TRV
11-20-2014 09:18 PM
Yesterday 09:33 PM
by TRV
3 107
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
Yesterday 08:02 PM
by stevef1201
4 276
Billboards for marketing
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-16-2014 08:39 PM
Yesterday 07:05 PM
by acrajchel
13 328
Pics for website
tbtigers03
Yesterday 05:40 PM
Yesterday 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
2 58
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
Yesterday 06:43 PM
by Steve
3 96
Belt dealer problem
googus
Yesterday 08:45 AM
Yesterday 06:36 PM
by Steve
2 67
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
Yesterday 06:32 PM
by Steve
7 175
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
Yesterday 06:28 PM
by acrajchel
15 429
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
Yesterday 06:22 PM
by acrajchel
8 225
How to: Use Thumbtack...
acrajchel
11-17-2014 06:39 PM
Yesterday 06:07 PM
by acrajchel
15 428
What is going on with...
biglee
11-14-2014 03:04 PM
11-20-2014 02:50 PM
by biglee
40 889
My advice for new guys
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 09:32 AM
11-19-2014 01:47 PM
by biglee
10 430
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 02:23 PM
11-19-2014 12:39 PM
by acrajchel
28 1,794
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 10:19 PM
11-18-2014 04:24 PM
by acrajchel
14 1,403
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 05:14 PM
11-17-2014 07:34 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,148
sod job
SGlawncare
10-30-2014 09:21 PM
11-17-2014 07:10 PM
by acrajchel
7 724
Customer wants me to...
Mr. Mow
11-09-2014 07:13 AM
11-17-2014 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
10 476
Hello!
Brian3137
11-11-2014 07:15 PM
11-17-2014 06:46 PM
by acrajchel
14 420
small biz in Phoenix,AZ
anthonyramos1
11-08-2014 09:35 PM
11-17-2014 05:59 PM
by acrajchel
2 283
Client won't pay...
WesleySnips
10-30-2014 03:53 PM
11-17-2014 05:37 PM
by acrajchel
22 1,306
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
11-17-2014 12:59 PM
by Steve
2 210
Need help on deciding a...
Brian3137
11-10-2014 06:32 PM
11-17-2014 12:44 PM
by Steve
12 474
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 10:51 PM
11-16-2014 07:54 AM
by stevef1201
8 1,552
So how do you guys...
Mr. Mow
10-26-2014 08:55 AM
11-15-2014 08:44 AM
by avetslawncare
14 1,661
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
11-13-2014 08:35 AM
by jrs.landscaping
81 31,731
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 03:45 PM
11-12-2014 05:05 PM
by stevef1201
14 1,631
A little hang up in snow...
stevef1201
11-08-2014 07:05 AM
11-12-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
4 389
Bi-weekly winter...
lxarth
11-04-2014 08:37 PM
11-12-2014 10:06 AM
by WesleySnips
9 586
taking first steps...
sizemorelawncare
11-10-2014 08:24 PM
11-11-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
1 276
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
11-11-2014 08:12 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 343
Business Cards
crieg122
10-25-2014 01:03 PM
11-11-2014 07:56 AM
by Just for Cuts
12 1,278
How the unregister?
alive101
11-04-2014 07:39 AM
11-10-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
4 570
Belt adjustment question
googus
11-05-2014 06:43 AM
11-10-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
5 476
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
11-10-2014 01:25 PM
by Steve
2 308
Podcast
Shark1611
11-07-2014 05:42 PM
11-10-2014 11:41 AM
by Steve
1 268
hi, from Minnesota
rjklohn
11-07-2014 02:21 AM
11-07-2014 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 283
New to snow plowing
SS.Lawncare
11-05-2014 04:00 PM
11-07-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
6 512
New Member
tonyap
11-05-2014 10:35 PM
11-07-2014 01:15 PM
by Steve
1 331
New to the business
jcurr33
11-05-2014 03:21 PM
11-07-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
1 379
Lines
Matther777
11-04-2014 02:19 PM
11-07-2014 12:54 PM
by Steve
1 421
hello, new to this site
tonyorwig
10-31-2014 10:49 PM
11-04-2014 02:24 PM
by tonyorwig
3 621
Aloha from Hawaii.
Gary R
11-02-2014 12:44 AM
11-03-2014 03:02 PM
by Steve
1 520
Pavers
crieg122
10-28-2014 03:49 PM
10-31-2014 01:49 PM
by Steve
6 835
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 02:59 PM
10-31-2014 12:56 PM
by Steve
5 1,150
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 10:19 PM
10-31-2014 10:53 AM
by Max Wagner
30 3,255
Gie-review / What's new...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-25-2014 10:19 AM
10-31-2014 10:30 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
7 1,074
Business Name
sanchez5
10-29-2014 12:55 AM
10-31-2014 06:51 AM
by ringahding1
10 944
» Popular Tags
4wd aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying article marketing bid billy goat brushcutter blades bush charge decorating deliquentaccounts ditches employee problems equipment rental estimate exmark ferris first truck foreman georgia gopherhaul gravely growing a lawn care business hiring how much to charge how to bid husqvarna hydraulic installation introduction kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo marketing mulch mulch price new business new mower ordinance podcast redmax reo running a business scag v-ride search engine optimization seo shreaded snow snow plowing starting a business start up lawn care business steep lawns steve toro trailer truck new used landscape walker won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy