Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

Curious..


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 02-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,506
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Why the heck are none of you charging for the full season of winter, and instead charging per outing?
Scott,

Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:12 PM
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 74
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 0
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Scott,

Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?

It's actually very interesting.

From what I'm noticing, companies in my area are more about obtaining a lot of clients and offering standard prices for full season work. I suppose the strength of these companies and myself rely on massive clientele.

Others in the world seem to charge a different price per individual client. In theory I can understand why this may make sense, but the problem is not being able guarantee stable income.

Sure even those who charge for the complete season might get screwed over if it snows a lot. In my opinion, it's better to take a chance with losing the money you make, then to never make money at all when it comes to snow removal.

Also, some companies (rare) often charge more if the amount of snowfall per season increases. These companies often put the amount of snow expected in their contracts, and if it snows more then they had anticipated, they can send another invoice.

-

I'd like to continue this discussion, maybe see what all of you think?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:25 PM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

my area is too unpredictable, last year we had 56 inches of snow and this year we had 4 inches.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

It really would depend on the location.
If you're in an area where snow is a given, then it's not going to be difficult to charge a flat rate, as both you and the client KNOW that snow is inevitable.


If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face.
I'm not paying for services not performed and there's no way to know what snowfall amounts we will actually get.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:30 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 8
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgemaster View Post
... If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face. ...
Same here. It feels like gambling to me.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:44 PM
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 74
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 0
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Well considering it's been a very lousy winter, I'm trying to figure out how different it has been for everyone out there?

I have already been out more than 15 or so times, and I find this amount to be a lot lower than usual.

How about you guys, how many times have you been out give or take?

Last edited by CHEESE2009; 02-27-2012 at 02:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-27-2012, 06:41 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 8
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Zero. Exactly.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-27-2012, 07:39 PM
willshome willshome is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Mass
Posts: 865
Rep Power: 0
willshome is on a distinguished road
Default

two "storms" each under 4" and most sign up after the first big storm
half my jobs are "call as needed" and no one calls for 4" of snow.

BTW 4 inches = 10.16 centimeters
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-27-2012, 08:35 PM
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 74
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 0
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default



I'm not getting a break...

I basically had one day of rest from being out, I have to go out TONIGHT because of 15cm AGAIN... and now this...

Attached Images
File Type: jpg snow.jpg (30.0 KB, 23 views)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-27-2012, 08:40 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 7
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

I've missed being on here for a while, but this topic is interesting.

I'm running a two man crew plus myself. We are currently looking after approximately 70 yards. This year has been less snowfall than normal averages until this last weekend (over a foot in one day). It took us two days to get it all cleared out, which I personally think is really good considering the amount we got.

Anyway, getting to your topic Scott; we charge a monthly fee no matter how many times we have to be there. Last year it almost killed me physically, this year its been different. Its a real balancing act, client volume vs manpower. I like that we charge a monthly fee (or snow removal flat charge), I know what comes in every month and with all my employees being on a salary, I also know what is going out every month. Not too mention, if I paid my guys by the hour, they'd have starved this season, and probably would have gone elsewhere to make money.

I'm not interested in continual employee training, nor am I interested in client turnaround. 99% of my clients are flat seasonal charge, with the exception of a few that pay per time. If you want to move forward, you got to know whats coming in every month, something thats very difficult to do with per time basis. Course, I understand that doesn't work in areas of lower snowfall.


Lloyd
Blue's Yard FX
Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Curious tiedeman General Business Discussions 7 04-11-2006 11:51 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
scag SWZT review!
mattthelawnguy
07-23-2015 02:28 PM
Today 11:27 AM
by mattthelawnguy
10 369
Big mowing job
Bradcook21
07-30-2015 03:57 PM
Yesterday 01:16 PM
by Bradcook21
6 125
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
Yesterday 12:29 PM
by Steve
1,227 401,307
Hello Everybody
budspop
07-30-2015 11:42 AM
Yesterday 12:28 PM
by Steve
1 51
Should I buy this Exmark...
googus
07-03-2015 09:22 AM
Yesterday 11:34 AM
by googus
9 580
Hello!
brandycarlton
07-29-2015 12:31 PM
07-29-2015 03:54 PM
by Steve
1 129
Assessing the Market
NJDB60
07-27-2015 03:25 PM
07-28-2015 09:24 PM
by Steve
2 238
Whats wrong with this...
GreenWorx
07-28-2015 07:56 PM
07-28-2015 09:09 PM
by Steve
2 219
Funny craigslist post
GreenWorx
07-28-2015 07:17 PM
07-28-2015 09:02 PM
by Steve
2 225
Watch out for this -...
rootytalbot
07-22-2015 02:13 PM
07-28-2015 09:00 PM
by Steve
7 381
NewVenture
NJDB60
07-27-2015 03:38 PM
07-28-2015 08:58 PM
by Steve
1 217
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
07-07-2015 06:15 AM
07-27-2015 06:40 PM
by GreenWorx
17 769
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
07-27-2015 06:08 PM
by GreenWorx
15 2,944
Need your help, Gopher...
Chilehead
07-23-2015 07:02 PM
07-27-2015 11:28 AM
by Steve
11 374
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
07-27-2015 11:22 AM
by Steve
94 10,440
Dogs
Mr. Mow
06-29-2015 02:37 PM
07-25-2015 07:50 AM
by Chilehead
12 2,415
Just about mid year, how...
GreenWorx
06-24-2015 07:05 PM
07-22-2015 07:31 PM
by Chilehead
14 2,482
Learning as I grow -...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
07-18-2015 07:46 AM
07-21-2015 10:53 AM
by Steve
3 315
Large dirt mound removal
purdue1973
07-09-2015 07:45 PM
07-20-2015 12:55 PM
by Steve
6 444
Hey everyone
Fantasy landscaping
07-09-2015 06:53 AM
07-09-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
1 330
Quickbooks Online
jscarolina
07-08-2015 07:54 AM
07-08-2015 12:55 PM
by Nate10928
1 351
I dont know what to do...
Bradcook21
06-21-2015 08:49 AM
07-07-2015 09:48 PM
by SGL1
16 2,741
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
07-07-2015 02:54 PM
by GreenWorx
13 3,685
Is it too late to do...
markty
06-16-2015 05:28 PM
07-07-2015 01:00 PM
by problem solver
9 2,494
Hi everyone
Mattw
07-06-2015 05:59 PM
07-07-2015 10:18 AM
by Steve
1 356
4th of July parade...
Steve
07-06-2015 10:35 AM
07-06-2015 10:35 AM
by Steve
0 302
Unemployment rates drop,...
Steve
07-02-2015 12:40 PM
07-06-2015 10:30 AM
by Steve
4 480
another newish job for me
holymoly
06-07-2015 08:34 AM
07-03-2015 02:06 PM
by American L&T
9 2,484
» Popular Tags
accounting aerocore applying bark blowout bob villa bush collections contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design door hangers edging employee problems facebook financials flyers free advertising free lawn care google growing a lawn care business hardscapes hiring how to hydro increase customers invoicing jobs landscape services landscaping landscaping training lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn mowing marketing more customers business mr dave new business ordinance past due patio install per hour charge per hour service plowing pricing quickbooks online scag secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shreaded small engine repair snow plowing solo solo backpack sprayer sq ft square foot swzt tree tree pics up sell employee walk behind web design website website design winterization wood www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:45 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:45 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy