Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

Curious..


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 02-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,511
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Why the heck are none of you charging for the full season of winter, and instead charging per outing?
Scott,

Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:12 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Scott,

Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?

It's actually very interesting.

From what I'm noticing, companies in my area are more about obtaining a lot of clients and offering standard prices for full season work. I suppose the strength of these companies and myself rely on massive clientele.

Others in the world seem to charge a different price per individual client. In theory I can understand why this may make sense, but the problem is not being able guarantee stable income.

Sure even those who charge for the complete season might get screwed over if it snows a lot. In my opinion, it's better to take a chance with losing the money you make, then to never make money at all when it comes to snow removal.

Also, some companies (rare) often charge more if the amount of snowfall per season increases. These companies often put the amount of snow expected in their contracts, and if it snows more then they had anticipated, they can send another invoice.

-

I'd like to continue this discussion, maybe see what all of you think?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:25 PM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

my area is too unpredictable, last year we had 56 inches of snow and this year we had 4 inches.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

It really would depend on the location.
If you're in an area where snow is a given, then it's not going to be difficult to charge a flat rate, as both you and the client KNOW that snow is inevitable.


If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face.
I'm not paying for services not performed and there's no way to know what snowfall amounts we will actually get.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:30 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgemaster View Post
... If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face. ...
Same here. It feels like gambling to me.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-27-2012, 02:44 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Well considering it's been a very lousy winter, I'm trying to figure out how different it has been for everyone out there?

I have already been out more than 15 or so times, and I find this amount to be a lot lower than usual.

How about you guys, how many times have you been out give or take?

Last edited by CHEESE2009; 02-27-2012 at 02:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-27-2012, 06:41 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Zero. Exactly.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-27-2012, 07:39 PM
willshome willshome is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Mass
Posts: 865
Rep Power: 0
willshome is on a distinguished road
Default

two "storms" each under 4" and most sign up after the first big storm
half my jobs are "call as needed" and no one calls for 4" of snow.

BTW 4 inches = 10.16 centimeters
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-27-2012, 08:35 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default



I'm not getting a break...

I basically had one day of rest from being out, I have to go out TONIGHT because of 15cm AGAIN... and now this...

Attached Images
File Type: jpg snow.jpg (30.0 KB, 23 views)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-27-2012, 08:40 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

I've missed being on here for a while, but this topic is interesting.

I'm running a two man crew plus myself. We are currently looking after approximately 70 yards. This year has been less snowfall than normal averages until this last weekend (over a foot in one day). It took us two days to get it all cleared out, which I personally think is really good considering the amount we got.

Anyway, getting to your topic Scott; we charge a monthly fee no matter how many times we have to be there. Last year it almost killed me physically, this year its been different. Its a real balancing act, client volume vs manpower. I like that we charge a monthly fee (or snow removal flat charge), I know what comes in every month and with all my employees being on a salary, I also know what is going out every month. Not too mention, if I paid my guys by the hour, they'd have starved this season, and probably would have gone elsewhere to make money.

I'm not interested in continual employee training, nor am I interested in client turnaround. 99% of my clients are flat seasonal charge, with the exception of a few that pay per time. If you want to move forward, you got to know whats coming in every month, something thats very difficult to do with per time basis. Course, I understand that doesn't work in areas of lower snowfall.


Lloyd
Blue's Yard FX
Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Curious tiedeman General Business Discussions 7 04-11-2006 11:51 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Pda
stevef1201
10-18-2014 02:05 PM
Today 04:49 PM
by WesleySnips
3 251
Workmans compensation...
CDLAWNCARE
10-15-2014 08:05 AM
Today 01:47 PM
by The Hunter
3 414
Dealing With Gas Can...
Mr. Mow
Yesterday 01:41 PM
Today 01:39 PM
by Steve
5 158
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
Today 01:33 PM
by Steve
9 726
Hello, from TEXAS
sanchez5
10-17-2014 09:56 PM
Today 01:27 PM
by Steve
6 351
Leaf Box & Loader Set...
ringahding1
Yesterday 06:20 AM
Today 01:25 PM
by Steve
3 147
Organic Lawn Care...
NHray
10-17-2014 06:05 PM
Today 01:23 PM
by Steve
3 325
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
Yesterday 01:59 PM
Today 01:19 PM
by Steve
1 99
Cheapskate Landlord...
Mr. Mow
10-20-2014 06:33 AM
Today 01:17 PM
by Steve
9 263
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
Today 08:51 AM
by ringahding1
12 1,463
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
Today 07:47 AM
by ringahding1
4 1,283
What parts do you carry...
Just for Cuts
10-17-2014 09:08 AM
Yesterday 01:36 PM
by Mr. Mow
16 609
Jungle to Beautiful
stevef1201
10-17-2014 09:54 AM
Yesterday 01:26 PM
by stevef1201
11 457
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 01:19 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
158 11,304
Sunny Beach Tennis...
SGL1
10-19-2014 11:24 PM
Yesterday 01:04 PM
by SGL1
4 221
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
10-20-2014 08:34 PM
by biglee
10 1,768
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
09-30-2014 10:06 AM
10-20-2014 05:42 PM
by SGL1
7 1,272
how to fi d commercial...
mchampion319
10-19-2014 09:50 PM
10-20-2014 04:41 PM
by Steve
1 184
Hello From Tennessee
mrmann901
10-17-2014 10:02 PM
10-20-2014 04:24 PM
by Steve
1 257
questions on order to...
jack2048
10-13-2014 11:15 AM
10-20-2014 03:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 700
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
10-20-2014 02:14 PM
by Steve
14 2,145
Cement mixer
KevinsLawns
10-15-2014 08:03 PM
10-20-2014 02:11 PM
by Steve
7 437
Hello ! New guy Rob here
RWorthley1
10-17-2014 04:05 PM
10-20-2014 02:09 PM
by Steve
1 275
Snow Blowing
gwilson98
10-12-2014 02:21 PM
10-17-2014 02:51 PM
by Steve
6 620
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
10-17-2014 07:49 AM
by SGL1
6 923
Grasswhoopins.com Anyone...
GRASS WHOOPINS
06-21-2011 11:38 PM
10-16-2014 01:30 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
42 9,276
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 10:04 PM
10-15-2014 09:12 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 655
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
10-15-2014 06:43 PM
by NHray
1,190 340,024
Do you find weed eating...
chuck2s
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
by chuck2s
0 369
Incorporating &...
WesleySnips
10-01-2014 09:39 PM
10-15-2014 01:37 PM
by kslawn
20 1,463
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
10-15-2014 05:57 AM
by ringahding1
8 1,483
Apartment Complex and...
lxarth
06-22-2011 01:10 PM
10-14-2014 06:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
42 9,563
I LOVE hedge trimming
stevef1201
10-13-2014 09:05 AM
10-14-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
5 506
Help with seeder...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-09-2014 07:39 AM
10-13-2014 08:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
5 667
The Market watch
WesleySnips
10-12-2014 08:47 PM
10-13-2014 05:40 PM
by SGL1
3 503
Help pricing a large...
Bradcook21
10-07-2014 06:49 AM
10-13-2014 02:00 PM
by Steve
7 855
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 04:24 PM
10-13-2014 06:46 AM
by Billy Goat
19 1,485
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
04-23-2014 07:23 PM
10-12-2014 10:53 PM
by SGL1
2 817
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
10-12-2014 06:20 PM
by kslawn
25 1,629
Credit card contract
SGL1
10-06-2014 05:31 PM
10-12-2014 03:40 PM
by SGL1
18 1,043
Truck craft dump bed...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-04-2014 08:41 PM
10-10-2014 11:35 AM
by Steve
7 948
First Time River Rock...
berryjam
10-09-2014 06:09 PM
10-10-2014 11:08 AM
by Steve
2 591
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 09:51 PM
10-10-2014 11:03 AM
by Steve
1 581
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
10-09-2014 05:58 PM
by kslawn
28 2,113
Mowing the hills
EyeCatchersNow
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
10-09-2014 04:19 PM
by Just for Cuts
25 2,990
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
10-09-2014 02:21 PM
by Steve
25 3,628
Changing Scag Freedom Z...
maggiedavidson
10-06-2014 12:24 PM
10-08-2014 06:34 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
7 832
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 02:45 PM
10-07-2014 04:18 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 811
Good Mower
jack2048
10-04-2014 05:34 PM
10-07-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
7 891
Mulching fad killing...
Tree geek
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
by Tree geek
0 707
» Popular Tags
2wd aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying bush charge christmas commercial deliquentaccounts demonstration exmark ferris first truck georgia gopherhaul grass gravely hills holiday how much to charge how to how to bid hydraulic labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business book lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lighting lighting brass outdoor lights managing a lawn care business marketing mechanic mowing mulch mulch price new business ordinance patio install podcast property management company push versus ride savannah scag scag v-ride seo snow plowing starting a business starting a lawn care business start up lawn care business stihl sulky theft toro tractor auger trailer mate pro tree walk behind walker wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy