Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Lawn Care Employees Discussions

Lawn Care Employees Discussions Discussions on lawn care employee related issues.

Commission employees


Lawn Care Employees Discussions

Discussions on lawn care employee related issues.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-15-2012, 11:43 AM
ConvLawncare ConvLawncare is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7
Rep Power: 5
ConvLawncare is on a distinguished road
Default Commission employees

Last year I had recently had a lot of trouble with my employees. Seeing as they were being paid hourly, they would take their sweet time while working throughout the day. Since I am not able be with them all the time, it makes it difficult to monitor their work activities. What do you guys think about paying per job? I have calculated all my costs and I'm willing to pay half the job price to 2 employees to perform the job. So if I charge $40, I would pay the guy mowing $10, the guy weedeating $5, and to blow and clean property $3.

Do you guys think this will be a good incentive?
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 02-15-2012, 12:03 PM
jymie's Avatar
jymie jymie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hamburg New York
Posts: 912
Rep Power: 8
jymie is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Replace the loafers. Plenty of guys out there willing to give you an honest days work.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-15-2012, 12:13 PM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

you run the risk of them flying through doing a poor job .
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-15-2012, 01:17 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,948
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Can you time how long the job(s) take to perform when you are onsite and then you would have a good idea how long it would take them when you are not there?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-15-2012, 02:14 PM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

what you want to do with the clowns you have is only gonna work if they make more money and if they have to work harder to make the same amount as they do now you can forget about it working out.

even if they make more money it will only act as a band aid because when they get used to that paycheck they will resort to what they are, lazy azz cow milkers.

it's your business and you call the shots. you either got to make the time and baby sit them or you need to let them go and find people you can trust who will do what they were hired to do.

as a business owner in the landscape industry you have to realize that anyone you hire is going to be for the lack of a better word a ship passing through the night.
workers come and workers go and until they prove otherwise thats the way they will be viewed.

there are things that can be done that cost a few bucks but in the end it can pay off.
they have gps tracking for the trucks where you can monitor which route they are taking to and from jobs and where they are stopping in between as well as how long they were there right down to how fast they are driving.
i even seen a carpet cleaning company that had the same system but it also was hooked up to the machine in the back of the truck so when they were on the job they could not only see if they were working but how long the machine was running.
that helped them determine if the guys were cleaning other rooms in the house for side money.
if they went to clean a 10 x 10 carpet and the machine was running for 2 hours and that size carpet would normally take 15 minutes a foreman would be dispatched to the house to see what was going on.

bottom line, there are ways with technology to determine if your workers are screwing you and if you don't want to do that then you need to find the right people and send them packing or baby sit them.

as a business owner the last thing i am going to do is let my workers dictate when things get done or how much they will make.
the competition and profit margin are too tight in this business to be giving the money away.

and if you don't want to do any of what was mentioned above then you will have to sleep in the bed you made.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-19-2012, 08:07 AM
STODD STODD is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 7
Rep Power: 10
STODD
Default

I agree to replace the loafers, I know that can be hard as I have a hard time firing employees. But the good thing with this poor economy is I have guys calling all the time wanting work. Get some guys with a good work ethic and the rest will come around or quit.
Now is the time to have a face to face with current employess and tell them how it will be. I have found many times attaboys worth more than $$$.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-19-2012, 12:18 PM
Local Edge Lawn Care Local Edge Lawn Care is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: sandy utah
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 6
Local Edge Lawn Care is on a distinguished road
Default

I agree with bruce if you pay piece rate then the quality of work goes way down and besides if your splitting it with them then you might as well just make them a partner in the business and make them split the gas trucks equipment trailers etc cause thats pretty much what your doing is your covering everything but then splitting the cost of the profits. I think everyone can agree that everyone has issues with employees and takes a couple of years to find the right guys. to help with knowing how long it takes on each job on our rout sheet it has a time in and time out on each property my office manager looks at that very closely because if you left one house at 10:00 and then started the next one at 10:35 but you know that the house is only 5 minutes from the last house they stopped at the store or cutting someone else on the way, so after a couple of weeks monitor to see if its a every week event if so then you go in your wifes car park down the street and follow to see whats up. Or as dpld suggest get a gps unit. hope that helped
__________________
Justin

http://www.localedgelawncare.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-18-2013, 11:11 PM
SNethercutt SNethercutt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 202
Rep Power: 4
SNethercutt is on a distinguished road
Default

Although I am on every job, I use schedules and I can assign each schedule to different crews. On the schedule it has address and lot sq ft and owner name. It has a place to put time start time end. If payment was received or whatever.

I think you should start making your own schedule with this info to be input. The guy not driving can take 2 secs to fill it in.

You can compare sheets on a week to week basis. See how long yards are taking and what your really making per working hour. If one week a yard takes 20 mins and the next it takes 45 there is a problem. You can not only keep track of mowing times but drive time between jobs. A lot less slacking off.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-18-2013, 11:48 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Another option is truck GPS and theres even one for smartphones. This will track where they are, how long there, etc. The best way to catch your guys doing side work.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-20-2013, 09:52 PM
tk4454 tk4454 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 62
Rep Power: 4
tk4454 is on a distinguished road
Default

last year I had an employee thinking he could line up work , and charge my wages and not tell me about the job he lined up, then ask to borrow my tools. when i found out what was going on i made him pay a pretty penny to use the tools.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how much do you pay employees? Mowin Madman General Business Discussions 7 08-20-2011 09:44 PM
how much to pay employees dell General Talk 6 08-17-2011 04:42 PM
Employees CHEESE2009 Lawn Care Employees Discussions 19 07-16-2011 08:54 PM
What's a standard commission for new jobs? abby General Business Discussions 5 02-08-2009 06:53 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
To mow weekly or Biweekly
WarriorLandscapingCAN
05-11-2016 04:09 PM
Yesterday 04:45 PM
by lawngawd7
9 297
Help a Brother Out -...
Hedgemaster
01-23-2012 04:19 PM
Yesterday 04:34 PM
by Crossett73
91 33,676
Hello from Alabama
pruzilla
05-25-2016 01:20 PM
Yesterday 08:14 AM
by pruzilla
2 48
Hello from Centreville!
Daveylawns
05-23-2016 09:04 AM
05-24-2016 04:08 PM
by Steve
1 67
Laying new grass, Sod...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
05-23-2016 10:07 AM
05-23-2016 08:41 PM
by Steve
1 53
I need some aeration...
rootytalbot
08-14-2015 12:32 PM
05-23-2016 09:06 AM
by Daveylawns
10 3,767
Prolin
rmccutchan
05-21-2016 04:53 PM
05-21-2016 06:36 PM
by rmccutchan
2 72
Upgraded to a new mower
Stevenor92
05-17-2016 08:17 PM
05-20-2016 07:08 PM
by Stevenor92
8 199
Intro
LaraRahmani
05-18-2016 02:54 PM
05-19-2016 02:43 PM
by Steve
2 107
Best Push Mower You Have...
markty
05-14-2016 03:46 PM
05-18-2016 07:34 PM
by Stevenor92
4 178
New mower!!!!
Stevenor92
05-18-2016 03:46 AM
05-18-2016 06:39 PM
by Stevenor92
2 112
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
05-18-2016 02:59 PM
by LaraRahmani
1,249 434,757
Stupid idea?
hopolb33
05-13-2016 11:25 AM
05-16-2016 11:22 AM
by Steve
1 152
Planting SKYBOUND CEDARS
FrankieeLawnz
05-13-2016 03:59 PM
05-16-2016 11:21 AM
by Steve
1 138
Edging Fad...
Tree geek
05-10-2016 11:29 PM
05-15-2016 11:12 PM
by Tree geek
2 183
Business Overload
Chilehead
05-06-2016 09:27 PM
05-13-2016 11:15 AM
by Steve
11 381
Hello from great state...
Cel1980
05-11-2016 09:00 AM
05-13-2016 11:07 AM
by Steve
2 154
Did this job free to...
JJand M Lawncare
05-02-2016 02:33 PM
05-11-2016 03:54 PM
by JJand M Lawncare
10 420
How to tell Cust. to...
GeeGood
04-09-2008 09:55 PM
05-09-2016 07:08 PM
by JJand M Lawncare
16 5,512
Echo SRM 230 trouble.
Jack Rabbit
05-08-2016 06:16 PM
05-08-2016 11:22 PM
by Just for Cuts
1 150
Toro ZTR Issues
rsanchez1203
05-06-2016 09:27 PM
05-07-2016 10:26 AM
by Steve
2 171
Correct way to quote a...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
05-02-2016 11:52 AM
05-03-2016 10:59 AM
by Steve
1 287
Having an issue with...
Mr. Mow
04-27-2016 03:58 PM
04-28-2016 05:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 292
Hello From Virginia
JJand M Lawncare
04-25-2016 01:02 PM
04-27-2016 05:20 PM
by Steve
5 330
» Popular Tags
advertising become an entrepreneur best mower be your own boss break business education business help business management contractor hacks deck lift dethatcher edging entrepreneur entrepreneur education estimates free lawn care fuel problems fuel pump half moon blade hydro increase customers jjandm lawncare landscape landscape design landscaping landscaping design company landscaping richmond va landscping lawncare lawn mowing lawnservice lowering grade marketing mulch new business planting plowing raising grade residential lawn care richmond va richmond virginia lawn care roundup safety scag snowblower snow plowing snow shovel solo solo backpack sprayer start a business start a lawn care business start business start up swzt toro timecutter tree tree pics tree service video walk behind what to charge work from home
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:22 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:22 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy