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Old 11-25-2010, 04:15 PM
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Well I started a rock wall with the mid sized excavator today, a bit intense as the ground was frozen, steep grade and these excavators slide all over the place when the ground is frozen so I just went slow.

The rocks are not ideal in shape making it hard to get a really nice wall but the community members have all been down and love it so....carry on I guess.

We have done a lot of work for this private subdivision which is basically a mountain overlooking the Ocean, the view is simply stunning, I think this is our 7th trip back.

The road you see we installed in the spring of last year, it's desperate steep, about 6 miles long, this area is a 25 acre parcel of land.

I received an amazing comment at lunch, the Department of Transportation was in to check on a bridge (we had major flooding a few weeks back), even though this is private property, the government is responsible for all bridges, anyhow the supervisor came up to talk to me and said he was shocked the excavator was lifting such large rocks, he said the two on his crew are more than twice the size of the one I was using and they would not lift rocks that size, he went on to say he has only seen one guy in 24 years that could operate an excavator on the side of a bank like I was.

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2 pics starting the project, I scraped off some snow for traction

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Placing rock from the seat

Wall at Lunch Time

Looking up the hill, I wanted to do the hardest part first
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Looks like a big job I just finished a rock retaining wall on Tuesday. Although the ground wasn't completely frozen, it made it pretty hard to backfill. Hope to see the finishing pictures. You doing it by yourself?

I'll try and upload my pics.
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Looks like a big job I just finished a rock retaining wall on Tuesday. Although the ground wasn't completely frozen, it made it pretty hard to backfill. Hope to see the finishing pictures. You doing it by yourself?

I'll try and upload my pics.
There is an employee on site however he is cutting and chipping trees with one of the clients, I pretty much always build these walls by myself.

It's going to be a big job, if I can finish the area in the pictures on the left and right side of the driveway this year before the ground freezes I will be happy, I can do the rest in the spring as it will take weeks to do everything they want.

You did a great job, how are you lifting the rocks?
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Those are amazing jobs!

Over time, does the earth tend to push on these rocks and ultimately push them over? Is there any kind of anchoring that needs to be done or will their weight anchor them in pretty good?
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We did this job by hand. I'd say the heaviest rock weighed about 150lbs and although it was a struggle, My helper and I got it done. Yeah its amazing what a power washer can do on rocks. You'd almost think that we bought new ones lol

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Over time, does the earth tend to push on these rocks and ultimately push them over? Is there any kind of anchoring that needs to be done or will their weight anchor them in pretty good?
Seems like all foundations loosen up over time. If you really spend the time on backfilling and constantly packing the dirt down against the rocks, it'll hold for a long time.
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Over time, does the earth tend to push on these rocks and ultimately push them over? Is there any kind of anchoring that needs to be done or will their weight anchor them in pretty good?
I have been building these for years as a hobby with an excavator, the lightest rock would be in the 700 pound range, the largest I would guess around 4,500 pounds, for the most part they do not move much unless there is water in the bank, caused by poor drainage then no matter what you do the frost will move your wall.
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Is it ever advisable to have some gravel behind the wall and then some pvc piping to drain the water out from behind it or no?
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Is it ever advisable to have some gravel behind the wall and then some pvc piping to drain the water out from behind it or no?
Pretty much always, you should have 6 to 12" deep, 3/4 or 1" clear stone, the only time I do not do this is when building walls with these granite bolders, these walls are very popular around here, not one of us uses clear rock behind the walls as the rocks simply do not move.

This is an area I cleared for these people this spring, they are building a green house here next week, for now it is my rock supply, these are rocks I dug up to build this road and an area for the green house, this community is pretty much self supporting, on top of the mountain they have wind mills, they generate enough power for all the homes and I think they said they sell around 200 Kilowatt's a day to the power company.

Next spring I am building an area for their future farm, it will be small, about two acres.

Anyhow this area is fairly close to the start of the wall, as I move up the road I will bring a tractor as it's faster at picking them up and bringing them to the excavator.
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That is going to look fantastic when you are done! There are so many rocks around the area there to choose from! It's amazing to think these were all being moved and ground up by glaciers many years ago.
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That is going to look fantastic when you are done! There are so many rocks around the area there to choose from! It's amazing to think these were all being moved and ground up by glaciers many years ago.
Yes, you should Google Peggy's Cove, it's about 5 min from my house, the rocks are mind boggling how did they get there?

The majority of the rocks I am working with are not very good for a rock wall, you really need four somewhat flat surfaces by the owners want to use the rock up that is there so that they can expand their growing area and they don't care what it looks like as long as it stays put.

Here is a lunch time today update.

It was funny after lunch (they made Beef stew, OMG it was good!!!) we were all down on the road talking about the wall, two additional areas they decided they want cleared this year when an old fellow drove up. He informed us he was watching from the next mountain over with his binoculars....lol, anyhow they too are a private community, after a talk of about 20 min with all of us, he wants me to come over when I am done and do the same thing to their mountain, they too want to have green houses, rock walls, want trees cleaned up etc. He stayed for almost two hours getting a tour from the owners and seeing what my company has done for them, they really sing my praises and I bet they have sent twenty grand in work from their friends this year alone.

I told him I would have a look but I was hoping this would be my last job of the year due to my woodworking and the fact it's somewhat dangerous as the ground freezes every night and it's desperate slippery.

He said well maybe after Christmas you could get started on the trees.....I might run a help wanted ad and get 4 or 5 guys going there this week as my helper is ready to become a supervisor and he can run a saw and knows everything about the chippers.

Thank goodness for a heated cab as it's desperate cold and windy up on this mountain, the cold air come right in off the ocean.
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