Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Bad Year


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-08-2012, 07:16 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 2
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default Bad Year

So I am just about all done putting together all of my tax stuff for my accountant, and this year was not a great year for us compared to last year.

So it got me thinking, what do you guys think is a bad year when it comes to crunching the numbers? Down 10%, 15%, 30%? When you say to yourself "Holy crap! What happened!?!?"
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 01-08-2012, 07:42 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING's Avatar
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,697
Rep Power: 5
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tips
With the economy the way it is and homeowners tightening their wallets its expected right now. So I wouldnt beat myself up about it. If you still make a profit then your doing better then most. If you made good profit margins then you just need more work.

Every week I see a few more people trying to break in our business. So we're constantly getting undercut because of the unemployment rates. This guys come and go but can do short term damage to our bottom lines.
__________________
South Eastern Connecticut Landscaping /Lawn Care /Pressure Washing /Snow Removal /Gutter Cleaning
52" Brutus/52" Super Surfer/44" Pro Line/60" ZMaster
EB630/EB802/EBZ7150/EBZ8000/BR400/Billy Goat 8Hp
FS55&90/FC95/km110/L322&326/TR2350S
HC150/HC155/CHTZ2460
CS440/MS290
Case 1816 Skid
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-08-2012, 07:43 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm up 38% from 2010 to 2011.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-08-2012, 09:43 PM
ringahding1's Avatar
ringahding1 ringahding1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Stillwater, MN
Posts: 273
Rep Power: 4
ringahding1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Every year is different. I do stand by my own motto which is: "You can always start over"....

The off-season is the greatest opportunity we have to come up with new ideas of how to get more customers or new services we could offer.

I will not go on & on about my success but will tell you now is the time to get a new strategy in order before spring.

The main two things that have worked for me is
FLYERS and my website. We are not in the phone book and we do not need to advertise in the local papers.
__________________
08 F250 Ext Cab/05 F350/04 Chevy 3500
2 60 Toro Zmaster/Lesco 60, 54, 48
2 8'2" Boss V-Plows
20' Enclosed trailer/16' Open trailer
18' Skid Loader Trailer
S185 Bobcat 2-Speed



ringlawncare.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-09-2012, 01:54 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,869
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
So I am just about all done putting together all of my tax stuff for my accountant, and this year was not a great year for us compared to last year.
Have you figured out why? Were there certain trends in the industry, economy, or maybe in your specific area that factored into creating this? As you look ahead do you feel those factor(s) will improve or no? And if not, what can be done about it?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-09-2012, 05:13 PM
stevef1201 stevef1201 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 635
Rep Power: 4
stevef1201 is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow, I just did my taxes, and because of a few purchases I had to make I lost 978 bucks last year. I thought that I was the only one with a poor year
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-09-2012, 05:18 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: I like to complain a lot.
Age: 72
Posts: 4,310
Rep Power: 9
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

We've all had a crappy year.

ALL OF US.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-09-2012, 05:26 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 2
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Have you figured out why? Were there certain trends in the industry, economy, or maybe in your specific area that factored into creating this? As you look ahead do you feel those factor(s) will improve or no? And if not, what can be done about it?
Well I should first start off by saying this, I am comparing 2011 to my 2010 season, in which was my best year ever. 2011 was still an above average year, but compared to 2010 we are down (I am not kidding when I say this) around 40% when comparing both years.

We had high hopes going into the 2011 season. We had a late start for Spring, which hurt our sales, but we recovered a bit for May and June. However, around July is when we first started to notice the die off.

Clients were calling to cancel because they were getting laid off, or were cutting back on services or had an unexpected bill/repair for their house happen. We worked with as many as we could to figure out a budget plan. About the time everything was said and done we lost around 20 clients, while other clients reduced their services too. It was like watching everything in slow motion unfold before our eyes. We had some major installation projects lined up, that fell through the cracks at the last minute. Some of these projects already had deposits down too, but backed out because they wanted to wait a little bit longer. They were afraid of where the economy was going. It was nuts trying to figure out things.

The contracts we have returned, and the work we have lined up is "okay" for the upcoming 2012 season. We don't have any major projects set yet, it just seems like everyone is still watching their pocket book. We have noticed that installation work is falling off more, and people just want the bare minimum to maintain their properties without going crazy.

Who knows, things may rebound.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-09-2012, 05:44 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 6
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiedemanLLC View Post
... We had high hopes going into the 2011 season. We had a late start for Spring, which hurt our sales, but we recovered a bit for May and June. However, around July is when we first started to notice the die off. ...
Yes, I also had a very late start. April 1 is my normal starting date but it was just too wet. I wasn't up to full speed until the first week in May. I was still up though. Last year was the first year I made more working for myself than I did at my old job.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-09-2012, 07:59 PM
justin_time's Avatar
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 27
Posts: 1,802
Rep Power: 9
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

2011 is so far my best year yet for record Gross Income. My profits aren't as high though but still made a profit considering I payed off my Zero turn mower, payed off my lawn vacuum (both were loans from the bank) and I just recently purchased myself a truck which I can employ myself in winter time and run all year long pretty much.

2012 is going to be my 6th year in business and my 1st year full time. I am excited and can't wait
__________________
Justin Pitre
Just in Time Yard Services
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
This is My First Year And... bestbetli Starting a lawn care business. 13 04-27-2011 12:15 AM
First year Chachi General Talk 4 08-06-2010 09:43 PM
15 year old need your help manandamower Introduce Yourself 31 07-23-2010 10:28 PM
New this year ndereski Introduce Yourself 3 02-15-2010 05:51 AM
2nd year TOUJOURS PRET Introduce Yourself 2 07-17-2008 07:37 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Thoughts, 52" Toro Z...
Lopes Lawn Care
Today 06:37 PM
Today 06:56 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
1 11
Two for Two - Woo-Hoo!...
Hedgemaster
04-18-2011 09:37 PM
Today 06:54 PM
by Hedgemaster
193 38,733
Best String trimmers?
JeepNjo
04-07-2013 12:32 AM
Today 06:40 PM
by cajuntiger
29 2,956
Better a late start then...
MightyandTidy
Yesterday 03:53 PM
Today 04:53 PM
by MightyandTidy
3 163
Owner of $700,000 home...
Hedgemaster
06-04-2013 10:31 PM
Today 04:51 PM
by Hedgemaster
56 1,949
Is this a good buy for a...
Outfield Lawn Care
06-12-2013 04:09 PM
Today 04:34 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
9 448
Hedge Trimming...
thegrounduplawncare
Yesterday 09:33 PM
Today 03:57 PM
by thegrounduplawncare
9 184
My New Lawn Signs -...
Hedgemaster
06-20-2011 11:02 PM
Today 03:43 PM
by CHEESE2009
42 9,821
Is it near impossible to...
ratchetmaster2
05-28-2013 10:04 AM
Today 03:30 PM
by CHEESE2009
19 1,388
just ordered a Dixie...
t-10yrs2retire
Today 02:11 PM
Today 02:11 PM
by t-10yrs2retire
0 41
Help! Need opinions
LawnBoy0311
05-10-2013 11:26 AM
Today 01:43 PM
by LawnBoy0311
17 1,061
Trailer park - please...
Codymac08
Today 12:55 PM
Today 12:55 PM
by Codymac08
0 51
Hedge Video
CHEESE2009
Yesterday 05:58 PM
Today 11:05 AM
by Steve
9 213
Started a New Solar Lawn...
Solar Lawn Care
06-08-2013 01:40 AM
Today 10:53 AM
by Steve
23 865
Started two months ago -...
Solar Lawn Care
06-16-2013 09:54 AM
Today 10:51 AM
by Steve
6 284
2013 Toro TurfMaster 30"...
CuttingEdgeLawnServiceLLC
06-14-2013 07:10 PM
Today 07:24 AM
by CuttingEdgeLawnServiceLLC
9 369
TheBrothersList.com
mac83
06-15-2013 10:08 AM
Today 06:08 AM
by mac83
6 332
Bobcat Pro Cat with ISO...
bradsnipes
06-15-2013 12:09 AM
Today 01:37 AM
by bradsnipes
3 261
Wet then turns hot and...
Wolf4dk
06-13-2013 10:17 PM
Today 12:57 AM
by CHEESE2009
10 441
Dump Insert Install
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-16-2013 12:43 PM
Yesterday 06:05 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
8 257
Seo
superyards
05-10-2013 10:19 AM
Yesterday 12:19 PM
by Steve
14 1,336
Need something on the...
Wolf4dk
06-13-2013 09:05 PM
Yesterday 12:06 PM
by Steve
4 304
We're all pretty much...
CHEESE2009
06-14-2013 10:59 PM
Yesterday 11:59 AM
by Steve
2 244
Something seems real...
xandrew245x
06-11-2013 02:34 PM
Yesterday 10:45 AM
by Steve
13 592
Subdivision
smr91481
06-14-2013 07:42 AM
Yesterday 10:42 AM
by Steve
7 350
Same Old
Apex Lawn & Landscape
06-15-2013 11:16 PM
Yesterday 05:40 AM
by LawnBoy0311
2 144
Teenager wanting to mow...
clutchcarrot
05-20-2013 09:17 PM
06-16-2013 01:27 PM
by bruces
7 711
In the ballpark?
smr91481
06-15-2013 08:21 PM
06-16-2013 09:10 AM
by dpld
4 250
Anyone ever use or own...
wat5150
10-02-2012 10:43 AM
06-15-2013 08:20 AM
by dpld
5 1,420
commercial grade battery...
espartolawncare
07-28-2009 08:43 PM
06-14-2013 11:39 PM
by Solar Lawn Care
41 10,659
toro 40 walk behind
bluebird
06-13-2013 05:09 PM
06-14-2013 10:47 PM
by Hedgemaster
3 338
Cheap Trimmer and...
Hedgemaster
08-16-2011 10:12 PM
06-14-2013 08:55 PM
by Hedgemaster
31 7,696
B&S 4 cycle weedeater...
Just for Cuts
06-13-2013 10:44 PM
06-14-2013 05:16 PM
by Just for Cuts
7 329
Just kicking the tires
mancrypt
06-14-2013 06:18 AM
06-14-2013 11:49 AM
by Steve
1 244
My experience so far
smr91481
06-12-2013 06:57 AM
06-14-2013 11:29 AM
by Steve
7 433
Ummm NO THANKS! Pics of...
Hedgemaster
06-01-2012 06:57 PM
06-14-2013 09:14 AM
by Landmark Landscapes
15 2,654
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
06-13-2013 11:28 PM
by Gforce
1,123 198,724
stupid...
t-10yrs2retire
06-13-2013 05:00 AM
06-13-2013 07:48 PM
by t-10yrs2retire
9 371
Business Virgins
Ninaryan09
08-18-2010 11:26 PM
06-13-2013 05:13 PM
by LawnBoy0311
14 1,878
Making it official
smr91481
06-10-2013 09:23 AM
06-13-2013 01:28 PM
by smr91481
7 485
Cost of mulch color jets
echochevydude
06-07-2013 07:46 PM
06-13-2013 11:18 AM
by Steve
3 493
Bored
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-08-2013 10:34 AM
06-13-2013 11:07 AM
by Steve
9 635
Buying an existing...
etnova12
06-11-2013 12:28 AM
06-13-2013 07:36 AM
by dpld
9 528
learned costing. prices...
t-10yrs2retire
06-07-2013 08:04 PM
06-13-2013 05:12 AM
by t-10yrs2retire
15 856
Do you guys think it is...
lawnboy47
06-05-2013 06:33 PM
06-13-2013 12:12 AM
by lawnboy47
24 1,291
Hedges
Matther777
06-11-2013 11:03 PM
06-12-2013 10:13 PM
by Hedgemaster
10 469
Trailer sizes
xandrew245x
06-12-2013 04:57 PM
06-12-2013 06:34 PM
by xandrew245x
2 352
Odd request
jimnfor
06-11-2013 05:51 PM
06-12-2013 02:02 PM
by Steve
3 367
Hello from Minnesota
Wolf4dk
06-09-2013 10:04 PM
06-11-2013 07:27 PM
by xandrew245x
6 485
I am also new to this.
CrissieRose
06-11-2013 09:18 AM
06-11-2013 11:08 AM
by Steve
1 360
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:46 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:46 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy