Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

What to charge for large lot 11 acres.


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-26-2011, 09:23 AM
justin9978f justin9978f is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 4
justin9978f is on a distinguished road
Question What to charge for large lot 11 acres.

I have a large lot that is 940x500 or 470,000/11 acres. I have 2 60 in mowers for the job. No trimming just mowing and the lot is flat no trees. What would you bid this for?
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 12-26-2011, 10:08 AM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
My price is $603 for weekly mowing. Bi-weekly $755.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-26-2011, 04:59 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,199
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I have a large lot that is 940x500 or 470,000/11 acres.
I got confused here. Are these two lots? Or what did you mean by the two different dimensions.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-26-2011, 05:04 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
I got confused here. Are these two lots? Or what did you mean by the two different dimensions.
940 ft x 500 ft = 470,000 sq-ft

470000 sq-ft x (1 acre / 43560 sq-ft) = 10.8 acres.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-26-2011, 06:46 PM
justin9978f justin9978f is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 4
justin9978f is on a distinguished road
Default

Steve

It is 1 lot 10.8 acres. Can you add to the calculator to put in larger sq ft dimensions to get bids? I was thinking about bidding this by adding another 60 inch mower which would give me 3 mowers on the job. Do you think that would be a better way to bid?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-26-2011, 07:50 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justin9978f View Post
Steve

It is 1 lot 10.8 acres. Can you add to the calculator to put in larger sq ft dimensions to get bids? I was thinking about bidding this by adding another 60 inch mower which would give me 3 mowers on the job. Do you think that would be a better way to bid?
How often are you mowing the property? Is it a weekly job?

I don't think it should matter how many mowers you use on the property, it's still the same amount of work. A crew of 2 is less efficient than a crew of 1. A crew of 3 is less efficient than a crew of 2. Doubling or tripling your crew size does not increase production by double or triple.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-27-2011, 03:30 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,199
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Can you add to the calculator to put in larger sq ft dimensions to get bids?
I don't know why I didn't make the field larger for larger numbers but I should have on here. I don't think it is an issue in the downloadable or android version though.

To work around it on here, I use the largest area size I can enter and then I multiply the final output to make it appropriate for the size being mowed.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-08-2012, 08:11 AM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

I don't understand the point of these calculators.

Putting in a smaller deck size increases the price but why would a customer care that you bought a small mower? What's that to them?

Changing the crew size changes the price. What if you have a guy out sick? Do you drop the price?

Why should I decrease my price when I upgrade to a larger mower at a huge expense?

Last edited by mark123; 01-08-2012 at 08:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-08-2012, 09:25 AM
lnbn1975's Avatar
lnbn1975 lnbn1975 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 5
lnbn1975 is on a distinguished road
Default

The calculator would give the price to charge based upon your costs. If you upgrade to a larger tractor, on page 2 you plug in the tractor price and that is going to be reflected in your quote. Your costs will vary a bit, but go by the daily norm. You may estimate your trimmer to last 3 years but if your employee straight gasses it, it's going to be an added expense. That has to come from somewhere. You won't charge the customer, but it is still in your I&E whether you use a calculator or not. All this calculator is doing is plugging in your costs vs. the time it is going to take to perform the task. It's not gospel. If you go to bid on a customers lawn and you mentally calculate the time to be 30 minutes and you need $100 an hour to show a profit, you bid at $50. What happens if Joe has the flu and can't work for you that day? You still charge $50, right? Only thing is, it takes you twice as long but you don't have the wear and tear on the mower Joe uses, plus you don't have to pay Joe, and he can't straight gas your trimmer.....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-08-2012, 12:38 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,401
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default The following is my opinion, nothing more. :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lnbn1975 View Post
... If you go to bid on a customers lawn and you mentally calculate the time to be 30 minutes ...
In reality there is no way to estimate a lawn by time. Every time I'm on a lawn it takes a different amount of time to mow. There are too many variables to be able to count on time estimates. How do you know what your walking speed will be at the time of day you do the work? How do you consider down time?

These calculators just seem needlessly complicated to me and they don't seem to get close to my prices.

Of course I can understand making them as an exercise in trying to figure out a good pricing structure, I just don't think they do what I'd need them to do which is to give a fair price to every customer. Do you actually use them to run estimates?

What does the calculator say compared to my pricing? The original question was 470,000 square feet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
My price is $603 for weekly mowing. Bi-weekly $755.

Last edited by mark123; 01-08-2012 at 12:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2 acres 2 foot tall MAllenT Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 40 11-16-2010 07:51 AM
Help estimating 10 acres WHITIE2000 Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 8 06-30-2010 05:08 PM
22 Acres Disked How Much espartolawncare Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 11 04-17-2009 02:51 PM
Placing a bid on Property: 23 acres Fresh Cut Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 03-31-2009 01:14 PM
Large Comlex, need help with bid ABurlison Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 12-19-2007 12:40 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Need input on a bid
phlawncare
Yesterday 08:51 PM
Yesterday 08:51 PM
by phlawncare
0 30
Building credit
Matther777
07-27-2014 05:20 PM
Yesterday 06:35 PM
by Matther777
4 102
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
Yesterday 06:21 PM
by kslawn
3 86
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
Yesterday 01:36 PM
by Steve
2 110
From Concord NC
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:34 PM
Yesterday 01:30 PM
by Steve
1 55
New from Texas
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:17 AM
Yesterday 01:29 PM
by Steve
3 128
Echo Edger 'Neutral'
WesleySnips
07-25-2014 05:28 PM
Yesterday 01:22 PM
by Steve
2 105
Single tree, mow customer
WesleySnips
06-27-2014 10:12 AM
Yesterday 01:21 PM
by Steve
14 627
Left handed edging with...
SGL1
07-23-2014 08:59 PM
Yesterday 07:39 AM
by SGL1
15 326
Echo PE 266 edger
stevef1201
07-01-2014 01:28 PM
07-27-2014 10:14 PM
by WesleySnips
5 341
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
07-27-2014 01:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
80 4,645
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
07-27-2014 08:16 AM
by Just for Cuts
7 185
need some help geting...
dalvan0
07-13-2014 09:28 PM
07-26-2014 04:39 PM
by BLC7
7 326
new trailer help
mattthelawnguy
07-11-2014 08:21 PM
07-25-2014 06:31 PM
by mattthelawnguy
13 500
You know it;s gonna be a...
stevef1201
07-25-2014 08:50 AM
07-25-2014 01:34 PM
by Steve
1 97
Customer letters
kslawn
07-23-2014 06:17 AM
07-25-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
5 210
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
07-24-2014 07:09 PM
by SGL1
29 1,276
Need help determining...
Jbss861
07-20-2014 02:33 PM
07-24-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
13 391
Should I ?
googus
07-22-2014 04:06 PM
07-24-2014 12:10 PM
by Steve
4 225
My First Apartment...
SSLCtn
05-26-2014 10:17 PM
07-24-2014 06:46 AM
by kslawn
15 922
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
07-24-2014 06:38 AM
by kslawn
3 225
Selling lawns like...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:51 PM
07-24-2014 06:28 AM
by kslawn
3 279
Scag new "Eliminator"......
ExtremeLawncareServices
07-20-2014 10:45 AM
07-23-2014 05:37 PM
by Just for Cuts
9 316
need professional advice...
Fiddlers_green
07-20-2014 07:21 PM
07-23-2014 12:42 PM
by Steve
3 216
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 10:20 PM
07-23-2014 12:40 PM
by Steve
15 1,429
Lawn Service back in...
LawnCareMan280
07-18-2014 09:00 PM
07-23-2014 11:48 AM
by Steve
4 251
Overspray?
stevef1201
07-21-2014 04:20 PM
07-23-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
3 162
Hello Everyone! Newbie...
SLKlawn
07-17-2014 06:22 PM
07-22-2014 01:53 PM
by Steve
6 295
Proper height for lawn
rob lederhilger
05-26-2014 08:01 AM
07-21-2014 02:53 PM
by LawnDoctor
9 678
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 12:31 PM
07-21-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
9 525
What's my business worth?
Chaz
07-16-2014 01:35 PM
07-21-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
4 308
1.5 Acre Jungle
WesleySnips
07-15-2014 05:57 PM
07-20-2014 11:31 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 637
Gopher schedule software
Ray
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
by Ray
0 201
2006 Chevy fuel pump...
KevinsLawns
07-17-2014 08:39 PM
07-18-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 193
Halfway point of year!
Steve
07-01-2014 12:08 PM
07-18-2014 11:38 AM
by Steve
14 759
I got told to leave and...
gwilson98
06-16-2014 02:07 PM
07-17-2014 11:43 AM
by Steve
16 1,071
Hey guys this is the...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-07-2014 08:23 PM
07-16-2014 08:10 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
28 801
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
07-16-2014 05:00 PM
by Just for Cuts
18 727
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
07-15-2014 05:38 PM
by icon2000
1,184 320,752
Classified Ad Template...
bcfb
06-05-2013 02:40 AM
07-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
15 3,751
Husqvarna pz 60
CDLAWNCARE
07-06-2014 06:50 PM
07-15-2014 08:53 AM
by kslawn
10 470
Lowballers
Chaz
07-11-2014 03:55 PM
07-14-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
5 385
My new side job
Sprinkler Buddy
05-10-2014 05:23 AM
07-14-2014 12:15 PM
by Steve
10 843
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
07-13-2014 10:36 PM
by GoGreenerKS
10 582
New Mower and Trailer
Chaz
06-25-2014 12:04 PM
07-13-2014 06:25 PM
by SGL1
7 595
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
07-12-2014 07:36 PM
by SGL1
21 1,925
Fuel and fuel additives
SGL1
07-06-2014 10:23 AM
07-11-2014 07:53 PM
by SGL1
15 583
Questions for a patchy...
jumcgee
07-09-2014 08:42 AM
07-11-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
1 236
toro proline blades wont...
boog
06-25-2014 06:26 PM
07-11-2014 05:28 AM
by kslawn
18 684
Contents of Marketing to...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-09-2014 05:25 PM
07-10-2014 03:23 PM
by Steve
3 335
» Popular Tags
34'' auger blades butterfly gardens charge christmas christmas light hanging credit card customers ditches exmark fall ferris financing first truck franchise georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business health holiday how much to charge john deere quik trac kansas city lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mechanic monthly mow mulch mulch price new and restored landscapes new buisness new business organize podcast property management company pto riding mower running a business savannah scag schedule seo social media starting a business start up lawn care business stihl top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer tree care trimmer rack walker winter winter services
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:34 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:34 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy