Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Introduce Yourself

Introduce Yourself Welcome all new forum members. Please introduce yourself and tell us about you. Tell us about your company. How did you get started? How long have you been in business? What do you do for fun? Don't be shy, say hello! It's fun and educational to interact on the forum!

Hello fellow green industry members


Introduce Yourself

Welcome all new forum members. Please introduce yourself and tell us about you. Tell us about your company. How did you get started? How long have you been in business? What do you do for fun? Don't be shy, say hello! It's fun and educational to interact on the forum!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-09-2011, 10:46 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 5
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default Hello fellow green industry members

Well, let me introduce myself. My name is Troy Tiedeman, owner of Tiedeman, LLC. Been in business going on 12 years now, and around 17 years of experience in the green industry.

This isn't my first time on Gopher. I joined this forum years and years ago (Steve would have to pull my information as when I first joined and how long it's been since I last posted) and I am looking forward to posting again. I can even remember doing an interview with Steve years ago.

I have been emailing Steve for the last few years now and then, and he keeps on trying to get me back to the forum. Well he has finally twisted my arm and I am really looking forward to posting again.

I still to this day use Gopher software. I think I started using it around 2004???

I have been through it all with the business, the highs and the lows, so any time you guys want to ask me for some advice or ideas feel free too.

Glad to be back.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 12-10-2011, 11:08 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 38,067
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book


The man! Troy is back! WOW!

Welcome back Troy!

As you reflect back on all your years of business experience, what's your view now on where you feel most of the new start up business owners go wrong? Why do so many of them fail and why do only a very few percentage of business owners ever get to the stage you are at now?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-10-2011, 03:20 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 5
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

There are lots of factors and reasons. If I was to say the main reason they don't make it is because they try to get too big, too fast. They want to have all of the fancy equipment, new trucks, etc. They end up getting loaded up with debt, and then struggle to make payments. Don't get me wrong, some debt is good, but you really have to figure out whether it's worth it to purchase that $9,000 zero turn, or could you get away with the $4,000 walk behind instead.

I am constantly changing my business year after year based on the market. Perhaps it's adjusting prices, marketing efforts, or the type of services that I push.

For example, when we started out 90% of my business was lawn mowing. I saw that the market was flooded in my area with other lawn mowers so now I completely sub out my lawn mowing, and it's only about 10% of my business revenue. Right now pesticide applications are the majority of my business, around 65-70%.

If I had to give one definite word of advice, and that is plan ahead with the upselling. Constantly sell, sell, sell to your current client base. Always put something in front of them. Walk there property to find things that need to be fixed, and offer to fix it.

My other advice is that you have to get back to the customer is first thought. I know when I first started out the client worked around my schedule and I had a huge ego, but soon I realized in order to stand out you have to offer an exceptional, unique business that no one else can touch. Go over the top with the customer service (return the garbage cans back up to the house, does it really hurt to prune one additional tree for them if you are doing the entire property) with two things 1) fast response time, 2) communicate with the clients. If you are going to be late, or reschedule for later in the week, call them. I can't believe the number of times that I landed a client just because I was there the same day of the requested quote.

I could really go on and on about it....but will save some of that for later in the forums.
__________________
Twitter
Facebook
LinkedIn
Website
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-12-2011, 09:11 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 38,067
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Very good advice!

Quote:
If I had to give one definite word of advice, and that is plan ahead with the upselling.
What's your view on the best way to come up with an upsell plan?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-13-2011, 12:52 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 5
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

I really depends on the type of client. I lay out a marketing calendar a year in advance, based on last seasons services. Let's say for example surface feeding insects were horrible the previous year, I make note of it, and push that service for the coming year because more than likely they are going to be bad agian.

When actually on the property in front of the client the main thing is to listen to them, but also look around their property when you're there. You can constantly find things to sell them. Are the shrubs pruned, do the gutters need cleaned out, are there weeds in the lawn, any dead or diseased shrubs there, etc. The list is endless.

The other thing is sometimes you may have a set plan ahead of time in regards to what products you want to push out for the week or month. I am not a big fan of this mean of selling, but if you have a large quanity of a certain fertilizer, or extra mulch on hard, you may try to get out that inventory so it's not just sitting there collecting dust. Nothing I hate worse than dead inventory. I am a big fan of Kaizen strategies when it comes to just in time inventory.
__________________
Twitter
Facebook
LinkedIn
Website
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-13-2011, 03:51 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 38,067
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I am a big fan of Kaizen strategies when it comes to just in time inventory.
What is that? The Kaizen strategies?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-13-2011, 05:07 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 5
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

I was actually introduced to Kaizen back in the mid 90's from my brother. He gave me a Kaizen book for a birthday present, and it was one of the best things I have ever read. In fact, he stole it back from me insisting that it was his (wink).

It's funny, because today we refer to Kaizen as "lean management". It's basically a technique to constantly improve anything and everything for the better.

We read about it all the time today that it's something new, yet the Japanese adpoted these techniques and made them popular way back in the 80's in the auto industry. If I remember correctly, the Japanese have been doing these techniques since after WWII.

Even though a lot in the green industry promote lean management, I would highly recommend reading about how the Japanese introduced it and used it in their companies.

For example, one of the best stories regarding Kaizen was during lunch breaks, the Japanese auto workers would go into the lunch rooms to eat and drink coffee. The cafe workers would set out pots of coffee for the workers at each table. Always at the end of the day there would be wasted coffee in the pots. So the cafe workers began to track the tables, and how much the workers drank from each pot. They then filled the coffee pots with just enough coffee, based on their research for each table, how much each table drank. This way there was no longer extra coffee wasted.

Just think about how simple as a pot of coffee can save you in money.
__________________
Twitter
Facebook
LinkedIn
Website
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-13-2011, 06:25 PM
ringahding1's Avatar
ringahding1 ringahding1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Stillwater, MN
Posts: 316
Rep Power: 7
ringahding1 is on a distinguished road
Default

"My other advice is that you have to get back to the customer is first thought."

Exactly right! Forget about how you started and kiss your accounts GOOD-BYE!
__________________
08 F250 Ext Cab/04 Chevy 3500
05 F350/04 F350 Diesel/12 Ram 4500 Dump
4 -60 Toro Zmaster/Lesco 48
3 -8'2" Boss V-Plows
1- Hiniker 9'6" V-Plow
20' Enclosed trailer
18' Skid & 16' Open Trailer
2012 - S185 Bobcat


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-14-2011, 12:10 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 38,067
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
This way there was no longer extra coffee wasted.
That is really brilliant! Have you found examples where lawn care business owners could apply this to their operations too?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-15-2011, 01:04 PM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 5
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow, they are tons of things, even simple letter things

For example, when we do our letters to clients we reduced the size of the logo on our letterhead to save on ink.

It's also about motion waste too. So in our office layout, instead of putting the file cabinets down from the desk area, in which we would have to get up, we put them right behind us, now all we have to do is swivel the chair around, and they are right there.
__________________
Twitter
Facebook
LinkedIn
Website
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Green Industry Auction site developed by a true Green Industry vet Greenapplicator Promote your products or services 2 06-14-2009 11:18 PM
New Green Industry Auction Site greenapplicator1 Promote your products or services 1 06-14-2009 04:20 PM
Green industry interviews Steve Lawn Care Marketing & Post your marketing material for review! 0 06-05-2009 11:26 AM
UK green industry franchise Steve Franchise Building, Entrepreneurs, Business Leaders, & Innovators Discussions 1 11-20-2007 10:48 AM
green industry statistics! 1manCrew General Business Discussions 2 07-24-2003 06:45 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
Today 01:01 AM
by myrlage
1,256 443,909
A quick Intro
BLE
08-14-2016 05:17 PM
Today 12:53 AM
by myrlage
3 1,192
Any successful one man...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
09-26-2016 06:04 AM
Yesterday 07:16 AM
by Chilehead
2 64
What were your top...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
09-13-2016 05:10 PM
09-26-2016 05:43 PM
by Steve
4 379
Enter to win Free...
arthur712
09-25-2016 11:28 AM
09-26-2016 05:41 PM
by Steve
1 53
I have a new show!
Chilehead
09-19-2016 06:50 PM
09-23-2016 05:45 AM
by Chilehead
7 146
First commercial estimate
WarriorLandscapingCAN
09-19-2016 12:42 PM
09-22-2016 05:42 PM
by acrajchel
7 157
Larger projects - Labor...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
09-18-2016 07:38 AM
09-21-2016 06:51 AM
by Chilehead
5 173
I need some business...
Firehouselawn@hotmail.com
07-06-2016 05:42 AM
09-16-2016 01:50 PM
by DLC123
5 632
Is it too late?
Cpadgett
05-28-2016 09:10 AM
09-16-2016 01:35 PM
by DLC123
15 1,342
Not a newbie just...
lwlawn
09-09-2016 02:32 PM
09-16-2016 01:25 PM
by DLC123
2 525
I'm making stupid money...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
08-07-2016 07:07 PM
09-16-2016 01:15 PM
by DLC123
6 1,417
Lawn problem
magiccc
09-14-2016 11:37 AM
09-15-2016 06:14 AM
by Chilehead
2 296
What kind of seed do you...
Bradcook21
09-02-2016 02:58 PM
09-12-2016 07:18 AM
by joshp
4 932
Commercial Flail Mower...
Chickenthief
09-05-2016 04:46 PM
09-09-2016 04:50 PM
by Steve
7 800
Newbie here
paulgrant
09-07-2016 04:52 PM
09-09-2016 12:01 AM
by paulgrant
2 632
Hello, New Member Here,...
Chickenthief
09-05-2016 06:19 PM
09-08-2016 09:35 PM
by Chickenthief
6 758
Pricing fall cleanups?
WarriorLandscapingCAN
09-06-2016 11:17 AM
09-07-2016 04:06 PM
by Steve
3 732
My Invention
biglee
01-11-2015 06:51 PM
08-31-2016 02:47 PM
by Steve
21 3,289
fliers
joshp
08-19-2016 03:23 PM
08-30-2016 07:47 PM
by SC93
11 2,177
» Popular Tags
annual apartment become an entrepreneur best mower be your own boss bidding business business education business help business management complex contractor hacks contracts convention converting customer dethatcher edging entrepreneur entrepreneur education estimate estimates fuel problems fuel pump half moon blade intro introduction jjandm lawncare l.t.rich landscape landscape design landscaping landscaping design company landscaping richmond va landscping lawn lawncare lawnservice lowering grade marketing mulch planting raising grade residential lawn care richmond va richmond virginia lawn care seasonal snowblower snow plowing snow shovel sprayer start a business start a lawn care business start business start up toro timecutter townhome tree tree service video web design websites what to charge work from home z-max z-spray
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:56 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:56 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy