Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes
Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.

Tree Service


Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-21-2011, 11:28 PM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default Tree Service

I am looking into moving into tree service. I am going to learn to climb. I can fell but no climb. I need to get into this with minimal investment. But I need to keep our look professional. That is OUR selling point we wear uniforms and keep everything looking nice and clean. I am looking for advice on how to do this.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-22-2011, 12:16 AM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard Elements View Post
I am looking into moving into tree service. I am going to learn to climb. I can fell but no climb. I need to get into this with minimal investment. But I need to keep our look professional. That is OUR selling point we wear uniforms and keep everything looking nice and clean. I am looking for advice on how to do this.


Good luck with that.

You can make a lot of money, but I think it's a safer bet to get into "Stump Removal". The cost is still there, but you wont kill anyone including yourself.

Taking down trees is expensive to operate, and very dangerous. Last thing you want is for a branch to go through a house or car. It's common down where I am. Our trees are from hell.





So cutting down trees does sound fun, but how do you plan on hauling the crap away? Wood chipper? Those are about $10,000.00+ aren't they?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-22-2011, 12:47 AM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default

Used wood chippers are 4-5 Thousand Used,

I am attending a climbing seminar on the 16th of sept.

Of course it is dangerous, but I get calls a lot for tree service type work, and get asked about it frequently. This would be a slow move into. Not an overnight deal. I know Andy on here runs tree service.

Don't be so scared Cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-22-2011, 07:48 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard Elements View Post
Used wood chippers are 4-5 Thousand Used,

I am attending a climbing seminar on the 16th of sept.

Of course it is dangerous, but I get calls a lot for tree service type work, and get asked about it frequently. This would be a slow move into. Not an overnight deal. I know Andy on here runs tree service.

Don't be so scared Cheese.
Big bucks in tree climbing and as long as you use common sense, it is not dangerous at all. Generally speaking we get $150 to $350 per tree to climb, then $65 an hour to chip, I haul the hardwood away at no cost as I sell it, hardwood is $265.00 a cord here, last year we sold around 35 cord and I kept 10 cord for my own home and workshop.

If the cutomer wants to keep the firewood, here is an example:

Bring the tree down $250.00 - one person - no time limit

Chip the branches and leave the chips $65.00 hour - One staff

Additional staff $25.00 hr

Buck logs up $35.00 hr - one staff

Split hardwood - $35.00 hr - one staff (we own chippers and splitters)

I also have two contract employees, they are also certified tree climbers and work for the power company, I pay them 50% comission.

Insurance is high however it goes down based on your performance.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-22-2011, 11:16 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,737
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Buck logs up $35.00 hr - one staff
What is that?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-22-2011, 01:11 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
What is that?
Cut a log into pieces the length of the clients stove, 15, 16, 18 or 24"
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-23-2011, 11:18 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,737
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Oh very interesting!

Quote:
I also have two contract employees, they are also certified tree climbers and work for the power company, I pay them 50% comission.
Do you only higher certified tree climbers or would you hire someone that was able to show you a certain level of climbing proficiency?

With the level of risk involved, I do wonder if it is a good idea or not for an owner of a lawn care business to be performing this job themselves.

One slip up could stop a business in it's tracks if the owner is injured.

Maybe it would just be better to hire the work out?

Do you have to carry insurance on the work you pay out the 50% commission to or do the climbers have their own insurance?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-23-2011, 03:03 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Oh very interesting!



Do you only higher certified tree climbers or would you hire someone that was able to show you a certain level of climbing proficiency?

With the level of risk involved, I do wonder if it is a good idea or not for an owner of a lawn care business to be performing this job themselves.

One slip up could stop a business in it's tracks if the owner is injured.

Maybe it would just be better to hire the work out?

Do you have to carry insurance on the work you pay out the 50% commission to or do the climbers have their own insurance?
I only higher certified climbers, not worth the risk no matter how long the person may tell you they have been cutting trees, it's an Insurance and Workers Comp requirement anyhow.

With proper training, it is really not that dangerous assuming you wear the safety gear, I have been in some very difficult situations, it really boils down to experience and training, never had an issue yet.

I carry Insurance no matter what we do, to me I have far to much to loose for the few hundred dollars it costs for insurance.

In many cases it's probably better to cub the work out, I have been climbing trees for over 30 years, received my training shortly after high school as I worked a summer for the power company which is where I received my training, big, big bucks in climbing.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-23-2011, 10:45 PM
Johnny_boy02 Johnny_boy02 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 141
Rep Power: 3
Johnny_boy02 is on a distinguished road
Default

Call your insurance and see if you are covered.

I have a pole saw I will trim trees with if a customer asks. But that is far as I go.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-24-2011, 12:51 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,737
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I also have two contract employees, they are also certified tree climbers and work for the power company, I pay them 50% comission.
What is your view on this pay structure? Is it worthwhile to offer services this way when you have to pay for things like insurance and other expenses?

How about using a bucket, would that make the process easier and safer?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Getting into tree care Steve Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes 19 07-29-2010 05:44 AM
Recent Tree Job Little's Show Off - Picture Post - Photo Gallery 23 03-05-2009 07:16 AM
Tree limbing job justin_time Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 13 09-17-2008 06:23 PM
Tree service flyer Steve Graphic Design Discussions 0 07-06-2007 07:19 PM
Copying service prices from 1 service to another Gopher Tech Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 05-09-2006 06:08 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Truck Signage
Dan Tanner
Yesterday 11:00 PM
Today 06:38 AM
by BelleCityLawn1
2 59
REO calling
Dan Tanner
Yesterday 05:03 PM
Today 05:45 AM
by kslawn
4 98
roof shoveling
CDLAWNCARE
02-21-2014 10:15 AM
Today 04:26 AM
by dalenpalmer
12 730
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
Yesterday 10:13 PM
by grassdoctore
8 245
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 08:26 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
30 956
Nationwide lawn care...
Billy Goat
04-15-2014 05:21 PM
Yesterday 07:35 PM
by stevef1201
8 154
Accepting credit cards,...
Darksteel
03-17-2014 08:01 PM
Yesterday 01:02 PM
by jymie
15 671
Instagram
Gerardo_Landscape
Yesterday 11:28 AM
Yesterday 11:28 AM
by Gerardo_Landscape
0 31
Help with weed liability!
Prolawnofchatt
04-15-2014 09:10 AM
Yesterday 11:20 AM
by kslawn
3 128
Trimec
acrajchel
04-15-2014 08:24 PM
Yesterday 11:10 AM
by Steve
3 72
leaf removal
tlf59263
04-15-2014 10:00 PM
Yesterday 11:05 AM
by Steve
2 97
Gopher Forum Discount!
BlackRain75
04-12-2014 10:44 PM
Yesterday 10:50 AM
by Steve
9 225
hello
NFrailey
04-15-2014 01:39 PM
Yesterday 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 68
Any greenhouse operators...
GoGreenerKS
04-15-2014 11:21 AM
Yesterday 10:43 AM
by Steve
3 89
Pricing a Mulch Job
dmcalpi
04-07-2014 02:16 PM
Yesterday 09:40 AM
by jymie
21 555
google earth
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 03:24 PM
Yesterday 09:36 AM
by jymie
8 192
Looking for advice on a...
Tekeda1
04-13-2014 09:53 AM
Yesterday 08:54 AM
by Tekeda1
12 252
There has to be an...
CDLAWNCARE
04-14-2014 12:59 PM
04-15-2014 04:06 PM
by Dan Tanner
6 145
First Day Back!
BelleCityLawn1
04-09-2014 09:13 PM
04-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
11 282
Mow America
stevegredler
04-13-2014 01:02 PM
04-14-2014 09:53 PM
by kslawn
5 164
Power Broom
acrajchel
04-14-2014 07:46 AM
04-14-2014 12:47 PM
by CDLAWNCARE
2 84
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
04-14-2014 11:34 AM
by Steve
1,176 284,269
Equipment reviews
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 07:17 AM
04-14-2014 11:27 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
13 379
Sulky and Turf Tracer
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:44 PM
04-14-2014 10:51 AM
by Steve
8 281
Aerating Prices?
Dan Tanner
04-08-2014 03:16 PM
04-14-2014 10:31 AM
by Steve
13 387
Estimating help
acrajchel
04-11-2014 06:06 PM
04-14-2014 10:20 AM
by Steve
3 141
Lawn Renovation
stevef1201
04-11-2014 12:00 PM
04-14-2014 10:03 AM
by Steve
5 161
Need help bidding church...
GreenRidge Lawn&Landscape
04-07-2014 08:01 PM
04-14-2014 09:49 AM
by Steve
12 364
Hello all
Griff20114
04-12-2014 05:08 PM
04-14-2014 09:46 AM
by Steve
1 88
Step by Step Spring Lawn...
WarriorLawnscaping
04-10-2014 07:01 AM
04-14-2014 09:43 AM
by Steve
5 200
Jeff Cowden
jcowden
04-11-2014 07:27 PM
04-14-2014 09:39 AM
by Steve
1 90
Exmark Commercial 30...
Dan Tanner
04-11-2014 05:35 AM
04-14-2014 09:37 AM
by Steve
4 163
What Was Your Setup When...
superrman77
02-11-2014 10:53 AM
04-14-2014 08:04 AM
by acrajchel
21 1,531
Small guy time to get a...
googus
04-08-2014 08:16 AM
04-13-2014 07:18 PM
by A. Kulak Landscaping
9 292
Weekly vs. Bi-weekly
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 01:48 PM
04-13-2014 06:03 PM
by kslawn
9 298
Weed ID help
TwinBrosLC
04-12-2014 10:39 AM
04-13-2014 07:40 AM
by stevef1201
4 131
Lexington, KY
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:06 PM
04-11-2014 09:49 PM
by acrajchel
1 115
Food Plot Management
BlackRain75
04-11-2014 10:20 AM
04-11-2014 03:51 PM
by Steve
4 115
Estimating a job
acrajchel
04-08-2014 11:07 AM
04-11-2014 03:32 PM
by Steve
6 260
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
04-11-2014 03:25 PM
by Steve
11 982
Hello....
SWFloridaLawns
04-10-2014 06:15 PM
04-11-2014 02:28 PM
by Steve
2 113
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 12:01 AM
04-10-2014 10:33 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
78 24,957
Trading Accounts
goodtimez
04-09-2014 05:42 PM
04-10-2014 01:55 PM
by Steve
2 144
Grass that has...
erock289
04-09-2014 10:21 AM
04-10-2014 01:52 PM
by Steve
3 158
Prowrap Trimmer Engine...
Steve
05-24-2006 07:05 PM
04-10-2014 01:09 PM
by Steve
10 2,187
1st annual Easter egg...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 06:58 AM
04-10-2014 01:07 PM
by Steve
1 103
Hello everyone
aceslawnandgarden
04-03-2014 06:54 PM
04-10-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
9 358
Weed control programs
Mallard91
04-02-2014 12:25 PM
04-10-2014 12:56 PM
by Steve
6 326
homeowner vs...
GoGreenerKS
04-07-2014 10:54 AM
04-10-2014 12:52 PM
by Steve
8 265
Hello
smgibson
04-07-2014 10:06 PM
04-10-2014 12:39 PM
by Steve
2 111
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 advertisement article marketing birdscaping blower care charge christmas christmas light service credit card customers echo exmark fall ferris financing flower bed for sale four wheel drive franchise gopherhaul gravely gravely 34" zero turn health holiday holiday decorating how much to charge installation invoice kansas city labor cost late lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business show lawn clarksville lawn service clarksville tn leaf cleanup lesco lighting brass outdoor lights llc llp marketing mowing mulch mulch price new and restored landscapes new buisness new business office management oil podcast promotion redmax scag seo snow sole proprietorship starting a business stihl subcontractor theft of services tips tree care unreasonable walker yard clarksville zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy