Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Looking for more business? Try this...


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-10-2011, 01:18 PM
Mattcrump's Avatar
Mattcrump Mattcrump is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Hoover, Al
Age: 33
Posts: 43
Rep Power: 5
Mattcrump is on a distinguished road
Default Looking for more business? Try this...

Hey guys, I am new the industry and have owned my company for 8-9 months now. I started with a push mower and an edger and weedeater and small blower that I bought from craigslist. I am now at around 60 customers and am about to be to the point where I hire a crew.

I have paid cash for everything I have except my toro 36inch walk behind. I financed it for just under $5,000 and will probably have it paid off in the next two months. I also have a 6x12 brand new landscape trailer, a commercial honda 21inch, Stihl weed eaters, edgers and hedge trimmers and two BR600 bp blowers.

My partner and I are both great networkers so we are always meeting new people and bringing in more business. However, it was tough at first and has been tough to get into the commercial properties. Recently I paid a buddy of ours who is good with computers to build us a cheap website. I don't care how great your website is or how much money you put into building it, it doesnt matter if the public can't find it. The website builders will never tell you that even though they are charging thousands to build it that less than 1% of people looking will ever come across it.

My buddy Jason did something called SEO coding which apparently has something to do with keywords in your website that Google recognizes more than others. Apparently there is some way to make your website much more searchable. Anyways, obviously the closer your site is to the first page on Google, means the more people will view your site.

To put it bluntly, I have been trying for 6 months to get my foot in the door with commercial properties. Jason finished out crappy little website last week that has our contact information very easily accessible. Nobody cares what all you have on your website as long as they can get ahold of you. Well in the last week I have had 4 different commercial companies email me asking for bids. To give you an idea of what type of commercial companies... I just put the first two under contract and am having to go out and hire two full time employees as well as spend about $20,000 in more equipment. I will have it paid off in the next six months with these two contracts alone. I am still waiting to hear back from one of the others that is double the size of the first two I signed. Plus if they accept my bid, they have 4 more local properties they want bids on as well.

I spent a couple hundred dollars and in a week, I had 4 commercial companies come and ask me to place a bid rather than me asking them if I could. One wasn't worth the money, three definitely were and I have already signed two of them.

If anybody wants my buddies contact info to help with their websites send me an email at Matt@fireandlawnrescue.com he is very affordable and has already made me thousands.

Matt
__________________
Matthew A. Crump
Fire & Lawn Rescue | Owner
Matt@FireandLawnRescue.com
205-999-3970
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-11-2011, 03:03 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,135
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Matt,

Were these new clients found by them filling out your website contact information first or had you met them in the past? Do you have any other suggestions to the new start ups on how to get more customers?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-11-2011, 10:00 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

He's right.

If people can't find your website, it isn't doing it's job.
(says the man with an unfinished website and no real keyword content to speak of)

There's a reason people pay money for good SEO.




Somewhat related, my Google Places listing finally became active a few weeks ago, and I've gotten a few calls that way. (I always ask how I was located)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-11-2011, 10:16 PM
Mattcrump's Avatar
Mattcrump Mattcrump is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Hoover, Al
Age: 33
Posts: 43
Rep Power: 5
Mattcrump is on a distinguished road
Default

Yea he's right.... I have a very basic website. It has a few before and after pictures and my services offered. Most importantly it has my contact page.

I had 4 residential phone calls just today while I was out cutting. One was for an area that we do not service. One was wanting a service we do not offer. The two others will have bids by tomorrow.

These were all complete strangers. Everyone that calls my office gets asked how they heard about us. We have had a few who have been referred. 90% of them found us on Google. SEO is huge!!!!!

The 4 commercial companies from last week were all from my website.

My advice..... pay for a basic website. Nothing over the top. Make it very easy to navigate and very easy to figure out how to get ahold of you. If it has that then it has done its job. Pay extra for SEO keywording. I have a friend who I highly recommend if you are unsure of a good company to do it for you.
__________________
Matthew A. Crump
Fire & Lawn Rescue | Owner
Matt@FireandLawnRescue.com
205-999-3970
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-11-2011, 10:19 PM
Mattcrump's Avatar
Mattcrump Mattcrump is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Hoover, Al
Age: 33
Posts: 43
Rep Power: 5
Mattcrump is on a distinguished road
Default

Another thing I have done was network with a local chemical fertilizer company. We have thrown business back and forth. I do not offer fertilizing as a service bc I dont have a license and dont want to pay a fine for doing it without one. He doesnt cut grass. However, he is the first lawn care company on Google search and gets calls all the time from people looking for lawn cuts. He refers me. I refer him to my customers who want chemical treatment.

Networking with other companies has been beneficial for me but the website has been by far the most beneficial.
__________________
Matthew A. Crump
Fire & Lawn Rescue | Owner
Matt@FireandLawnRescue.com
205-999-3970
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,135
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Matt,

What kind of price range would you suggest others looking to get their website search engine optimized, pay ?

Also, how long did it take for the changes to take effect?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Commercial Jobs
CurbAppeal1
03-25-2015 04:22 PM
Today 12:33 AM
by CCandALawnCare
8 272
How do you get...
ESREVER
03-25-2015 01:30 PM
Yesterday 11:09 PM
by SC93
9 247
35,000 Eddm
greenscaper123
03-18-2015 12:51 PM
Yesterday 10:51 PM
by SC93
22 600
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
Yesterday 10:14 PM
Yesterday 10:14 PM
by clarkslawn
0 25
Engine question
Blue Star Lawn Care
Yesterday 09:47 PM
Yesterday 09:47 PM
by Blue Star Lawn Care
0 24
Hydro oil
googus
Yesterday 06:45 AM
Yesterday 09:32 PM
by googus
2 54
First big mower decision?
SGL1
03-28-2015 08:58 AM
Yesterday 08:16 PM
by Just for Cuts
8 155
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 07:15 PM
Yesterday 07:39 PM
by SGL1
30 2,451
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
Yesterday 07:36 PM
by SGL1
16 603
Ferris FW35 questions
Chilehead
03-10-2015 08:31 PM
Yesterday 07:08 PM
by Dan Tanner
7 438
Bid for large home...
lxarth
03-22-2015 11:06 AM
Yesterday 07:03 PM
by avetslawncare
11 416
Covering a landscape...
Dan Tanner
03-29-2015 09:01 AM
Yesterday 06:55 PM
by Dan Tanner
5 135
Dethatching attachments
jcurr33
03-29-2015 08:56 PM
Yesterday 05:18 PM
by jcurr33
2 79
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
Yesterday 02:07 PM
by Steve
4 436
Trepidation about...
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 07:46 PM
Yesterday 01:40 PM
by Steve
3 208
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
Yesterday 01:36 PM
by Steve
16 3,496
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
03-29-2015 05:13 PM
by avetslawncare
8 254
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
03-29-2015 01:18 PM
by jrs.landscaping
5 156
Weed and Feed
robkattankate
03-19-2015 09:00 PM
03-29-2015 08:42 AM
by Dan Tanner
5 607
Mower vs lot size advice
jcurr33
03-25-2015 09:29 PM
03-28-2015 08:37 AM
by Dan Tanner
5 218
hoa bid need help
bigdaveha12
03-24-2015 08:29 PM
03-27-2015 11:17 PM
by lxarth
6 290
introducing myself
chris2500hd
03-24-2015 11:16 AM
03-27-2015 02:02 PM
by Steve
8 265
Flag or no flag
Matther777
03-24-2015 02:41 PM
03-27-2015 12:25 PM
by biglee
10 364
Office Administration...
Girlfriend
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
by Girlfriend
0 780
Is this tree beyond help?
SGL1
03-22-2015 05:35 PM
03-25-2015 08:55 PM
by SGL1
14 1,199
Opinions on truck wrap
Trupro
02-28-2015 03:21 PM
03-25-2015 07:54 PM
by Trupro
33 1,628
The New Wave!!!! Read...
Jamesw86
03-22-2015 08:33 PM
03-25-2015 02:50 PM
by Steve
10 353
grass in the gas tank
robkattankate
03-23-2015 04:37 PM
03-25-2015 02:36 PM
by Steve
5 231
Helping others
hansenslawncare
09-15-2011 08:50 PM
03-25-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
11 2,689
DOT Number
acrajchel
03-20-2015 05:56 PM
03-25-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
7 554
Michelin x tweel.
apmAkron
03-23-2015 04:22 PM
03-24-2015 12:40 PM
by Steve
3 157
spike aerator???
Bradcook21
03-21-2015 01:55 PM
03-24-2015 10:32 AM
by acrajchel
4 253
Hello from Maryland
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 12:44 PM
03-23-2015 07:33 PM
by michellemarvin
2 169
hello from south GA.
CCandALawnCare
03-23-2015 03:46 AM
03-23-2015 07:06 PM
by CCandALawnCare
2 148
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
03-23-2015 06:14 PM
by jethro
1,218 380,486
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 11:30 AM
03-23-2015 12:28 PM
by Steve
9 892
Should i take on this...
christw
03-17-2013 01:23 PM
03-22-2015 09:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
36 7,615
mower stalls when...
boog
03-19-2015 08:20 AM
03-21-2015 08:13 PM
by Wolf4dk
7 297
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
03-20-2015 10:00 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 4,042
Hello Emily Reyes from...
Webster14829
03-20-2015 11:23 AM
03-20-2015 03:36 PM
by Steve
2 202
Finally going to give it...
jcurr33
03-12-2015 08:09 PM
03-20-2015 03:31 PM
by Steve
10 590
Weed id?
SGL1
03-17-2015 08:20 PM
03-20-2015 02:37 PM
by Steve
6 306
Mobile small engine...
luckylogger
03-15-2015 02:05 PM
03-20-2015 06:17 AM
by jrs.landscaping
15 523
Brad Cook 21
SC93
03-16-2015 10:40 PM
03-19-2015 09:04 PM
by Bradcook21
4 489
honest opinion please
uppercut
02-17-2015 01:30 AM
03-18-2015 02:55 PM
by Steve
15 1,361
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 04:07 PM
03-18-2015 02:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
21 2,054
new to the site
bigdaveha12
03-17-2015 09:13 PM
03-18-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
1 234
Small dovetail truck...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-04-2015 06:47 PM
03-17-2015 10:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
17 900
New Site Hows it look
Infinitelawn
03-16-2015 10:32 AM
03-17-2015 08:15 PM
by SGL1
3 308
mulch questions
Bradcook21
03-08-2015 08:37 AM
03-17-2015 07:00 PM
by Bradcook21
23 1,045
» Popular Tags
apartment complex auger bark billy goat brushcutter blades blowout bob villa collections commercial design edging employee problems equipment rental ferris flyers foreman free advertising grass growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring husqvarna hydraulic introduction john deere quik trac landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website marketing more customers business mr dave new business ordinance past due patio install per hour charge pricing profit on employee pto push versus ride running a business scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shell small engine repair square foot sulky toro grand stand trailer tree trimmer rack truck new used landscape walk behind web design website website design winterization won't return
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy