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[CHEESE2009]

Also to note, if you have a ztm you can get jobs done a lot faster than by just using a 21 inch mower. Pros: Bigger deck, speed, less fatigue! With a 21 inch mower, every job can feel like a struggle and take up to 30 mins per property with trimming and blowing. A ztm turned that 30 minutes into 5 minutes - easy! Maybe I shall make another video, lol Thursday is tomorrow and I don't wanna film the same lawn again lol.. Any other lawn, the client is usually home which would be weird..... Now that I think of it, that's why I hate Fridays too, all my clients are home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Paineless Creations]

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Yep for some reason I always prefer them not home, I am not doing anything wrong. Its just I always worry about the speed. I think if they realized how fast we do there lawns they would hate to pay us. Plus you lose the wow factor. "Wow Factor" the joy of a customer coming home to a perfect lawn as they pull into the driveway from a hard days work at there job. Originally Posted by CHEESE2009 Also to note, if you have a ztm you can get jobs done a lot faster than by just using a 21 inch mower. Pros: Bigger deck, speed, less fatigue! With a 21 inch mower, every job can feel like a struggle and take up to 30 mins per property with trimming and blowing. A ztm turned that 30 minutes into 5 minutes - easy! Maybe I shall make another video, lol Thursday is tomorrow and I don't wanna film the same lawn again lol.. Any other lawn, the client is usually home which would be weird..... Now that I think of it, that's why I hate Fridays too, all my clients are home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Ducke]

Originally Posted by CHEESE2009

Also to note, if you have a ztm you can get jobs done a lot faster than by just using a 21 inch mower.

Pros: Bigger deck, speed, less fatigue!


With a 21 inch mower, every job can feel like a struggle and take up to 30 mins per property with trimming and blowing. A ztm turned that 30 minutes into 5 minutes - easy!

Maybe I shall make another video, lol Thursday is tomorrow and I don't wanna film the same lawn again lol.. Any other lawn, the client is usually home which would be weird..... Now that I think of it, that's why I hate Fridays too, all my clients are home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With small gates and small city lots I would hardly use anything other then a 21" .
Until I get some bigger lawns my Toro Super Recycler will have to do the trick.

[Hedgemaster]

Originally Posted by Paineless Creations

Yep for some reason I always prefer them not home, I am not doing anything wrong. Its just I always worry about the speed. I think if they realized how fast we do there lawns they would hate to pay us. Plus you lose the wow factor. "Wow Factor" the joy of a customer coming home to a perfect lawn as they pull into the driveway from a hard days work at there job.

Good point. Homeowners can't wrap their brains around paying $35-$45 for something that is completed in 15 minutes. On the other hand, if I'm busting my a$$ for 2 HOURS, they are HAPPY to pay it.

I just got a job today from a client who was not happy with her current (haha, I mean FORMER) lawn service. Aside from the fact that they raised her rate by ten dollars, and were overheard using foul language, "They were only here for ten minutes" was one of the comments she made to me.


CHEESE, your time estimate comparison is pretty accurate.
There's one lawn I do that takes me 20-30 minutes (with 21" Toro) to mow the back yard depending on how fast I feel like walking. The house behind it has same size lawn and their service uses a zero turn mower... FOUR freaking minutes, and he's done with the back.

[CHEESE2009]

If the client doesn't want me using the tractor due to a bad experience with a former service provider, I say;

"I don't blame you, a lot of guys around here just plow their lawns without thinking. I will show you what I can do this time, and if you have any problems with the job we will find another solution. The tractors stripes look really good when done right, and I want your lawn to stand out"

They are always willing to let me try it, and I have yet to hear any complaints.

Basically, I use their bad experience as a chance to shine. I tell them,
"The last guy didn't have a brain - I do".

I remember when I used to tell people,
"I don't use tractors, they destroy lawns, and I want your lawn to be perfect!" LOL!


It's usually the elderly who are the most intimidated by bigger machines, and large groups of people working on their property. They like to watch, and pay attention to what is happening without being overwhelmed. It's not a good thing for us, but that's the way they are and we have to deal with it.

[Hedgemaster]

There's a home down the street from me whose lawn IS being destroyed by a service that uses a zero turn - ruts everywhere.
The grass is fine, but there are rows of depressions from the machinery.

This is what I fear most about moving to a walk behind or riding mower. How much do I have to be concerned about messing up the lawn?

[MountainViewGreenskeeper]

The same as a push. You hopefully don't mow the same direction every visit for the last few years. Its just a little more weight per sq in; a lot more weight but bigger tires spread it out. If you are smart about it you will be fine.

[CHEESE2009]

Originally Posted by Hedgemaster

There's a home down the street from me whose lawn IS being destroyed by a service that uses a zero turn - ruts everywhere.
The grass is fine, but there are rows of depressions from the machinery.

This is what I fear most about moving to a walk behind or riding mower. How much do I have to be concerned about messing up the lawn?

It's pretty rare to ruin a lawn with a tractor, it's possible - but it seems to only happen on certain lawns. It's hard to describe which lawns, but you'll feel it.

You'll know to make wide turns, and to go slower.

[brian'slawncare]

i never thought about running two mowers at the same time. huh...

[MountainViewGreenskeeper]

Originally Posted by brian'slawncare

i never thought about running two mowers at the same time. huh...

They need to make a "roomba" witch if I spelled it right is a automatic room cleaner but for your lawn. now before you say they do I'm talkin the size of a zero turn where you just set it and go, then while thats going you trim/blow and/or do bushes.