Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Lawn Care Employees Discussions

Lawn Care Employees Discussions Discussions on lawn care employee related issues.

Employee Comp.


Lawn Care Employees Discussions

Discussions on lawn care employee related issues.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default Employee Comp.

So, I gave my employee a mower so he could cut his grass. His friends neighbor found out that he was a landscaper and asked him to cut her lawn he offered to do it with the mower I gave him on a weekly basis, he ended up using her mower and will be servicing her lawn weekly. What would you do. I think it BS but thought I should get some suggestions. I taught him how to cut, how long to cut the grass how often and how to bid. He still currently works for me.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 07-09-2011, 12:12 AM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Eh. Tell him you want your mower back.
If he wants to make money on the side let him buy his own equipment.

Also, the first person/property he hurts/damages with your mower may get sticky.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-2011, 12:53 AM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default

I gave the mower to him I didn't let him borrow it.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2011, 01:45 AM
cruzgardening cruzgardening is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 277
Rep Power: 4
cruzgardening is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard Elements View Post
I gave the mower to him I didn't let him borrow it.
that's what happens in the States man we area entrepreneurs haha but on a more serious note i would get another person to help me if it was interfering with his work but if wasn't i would just let him be and make sure he does not take more things like sprinkler heads, valves or any other things you might use for the yard cause he will be eating your profits there. So just talk to him and let him know you would rather him not take on any customers in your area but thats about all i can say.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2011, 08:53 AM
shadrach's Avatar
shadrach shadrach is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 256
Rep Power: 5
shadrach is on a distinguished road
Default

Unless you told him when you told him up front not to do that type of thing then I can't really see being mad. Let him keep that one but explain to him why he can't do it anymore. Putting together some type of employee handbook/checklist together $ making him sign off on it is not a bad idea either. If he told you about it I bet he didn't think you would have a problem with it.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2011, 11:21 AM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default

The part that bugs me is that we are all a team, I find work for us all. We knock doors etc. But then he finds work for just him just seems like an A$$ type thing to me?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-09-2011, 11:52 AM
MountainViewGreenskeeper's Avatar
MountainViewGreenskeeper MountainViewGreenskeeper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 473
Rep Power: 5
MountainViewGreenskeeper is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard Elements View Post
The part that bugs me is that we are all a team, I find work for us all. We knock doors etc. But then he finds work for just him just seems like an A$$ type thing to me?
Is he a part owner for the company? If not you have to remember that he is there to make money not help grow your company as you are doing. Ya you want that team spirit within a crew but he is there for him not you or the company. It is sad but true.

Now on the same token it is the same work as what he does for your company so a no competition agreement should have been made but that is up to you.
__________________
Colton
Mountain View Greenskeeper proudly offering yard care in the East Valley of Arizona.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-09-2011, 03:55 PM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default

I think I might make a no comp. agreement. I know he is there to make money for him self but if your employees are not there to build the company then what are they there for simple grunts? I pay myself as I am an employee and invest the rest back into the company.

What would you do if someone did this on a street that you already service would you keep them on? I feel he should have referred the company. I understand how some feel about "team spirit" but I feel in order to have competent professional people not the average layman mow-man then people have to have a sense of loyalty to the company. Whats keeping him from knocking on the door of my clients and doing te work for less than I do it. e now has a client on the same street. Would you hire an owner of a company that you compete with.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-09-2011, 05:26 PM
MountainViewGreenskeeper's Avatar
MountainViewGreenskeeper MountainViewGreenskeeper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 473
Rep Power: 5
MountainViewGreenskeeper is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard Elements View Post
I think I might make a no comp. agreement. I know he is there to make money for him self but if your employees are not there to build the company then what are they there for simple grunts? I pay myself as I am an employee and invest the rest back into the company.

What would you do if someone did this on a street that you already service would you keep them on? I feel he should have referred the company. I understand how some feel about "team spirit" but I feel in order to have competent professional people not the average layman mow-man then people have to have a sense of loyalty to the company. Whats keeping him from knocking on the door of my clients and doing te work for less than I do it. e now has a client on the same street. Would you hire an owner of a company that you compete with.
Well Im kinda in a different boat. The guys I use, the way I use them are independent contractors. So they kinda are more free to do what they want. Sure you want them to refer your company but it also not like he is going out and doing an estimate for your company and then saying hey I can do this for much cheaper on the side. My understanding from the way you stated it is, it is one of his neighbors. I would say just let it go. If he starts to get more you probably have a problem on your hands.

Also isn't this the same issue everybody is always talking about on this site low ballers and people that don't know what their cost are? Get insured and licensed if you are already find things the little guys can't do that will set you apart. Weather that be tree work, spraying for weeds(post, pre), fertilizer(more or less liquid anyone can do granules), sprinkler work, the other things.

To me the maintenance is just a foot in the door. Be better.

Hmmmz got a little carried away there I'll step down from the soap box.

In all seriousness. Either leave it alone or get an agreement set up that way when your guy wants to go make a few extra bucks he has to do something other then landscaping.
__________________
Colton
Mountain View Greenskeeper proudly offering yard care in the East Valley of Arizona.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-09-2011, 07:12 PM
Yard Elements Yard Elements is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 175
Rep Power: 5
Yard Elements is on a distinguished road
Default

I am licensed, bonded and insured. We currently employee four people including myself. Hiring independent contractors in IMHO is a little strange. We all wear uniforms and drive company trucks. I am trained in horticulture and so are my guys. We are not hacks that simply walk off the street and mow grass. He does know the cost because I am training him to be a supervisor and to bid jobs. I don't want to run the whole company forever, besides soon it will be too big to manage on my own.

Anyway I think I have a solution to the problem. I will provide a non-compete form but offer him a sales incentive program so he can make extra cash and build the company. Win win. Now the questions is what to offer him. how Much?

Any Ideas?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
employee pay 4 seasons maintenance Lawn Care Employees Discussions 20 04-20-2014 04:40 PM
Employee Pay? Lawndogg Lawn Care Employees Discussions 6 12-28-2010 05:57 PM
advice on workmans comp bizerker Starting a lawn care business. 4 11-19-2008 09:29 PM
Employee tiedeman Lawn Care Employees Discussions 3 02-21-2007 09:09 PM
Employee F.A.Q's Steve Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 0 08-03-2004 07:47 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
How do I approach...
Bradcook21
Today 01:48 AM
Today 04:00 AM
by jrs.landscaping
1 23
Hello
M2Dave
Today 12:32 AM
Today 12:32 AM
by M2Dave
0 15
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 04:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
100 5,910
Downed Tree Chop Bid
WesleySnips
08-16-2014 03:47 PM
Yesterday 01:44 PM
by SGL1
10 281
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
Yesterday 12:01 PM
by Steve
1 50
New Landscaping Business
rekon32
08-16-2014 02:26 PM
Yesterday 11:56 AM
by Steve
7 284
Fuel Can Spouts
Shark1611
08-16-2014 09:09 AM
08-19-2014 07:52 PM
by SGL1
8 206
60 inch honda/bunton...
pblawncare
08-17-2014 11:30 AM
08-18-2014 03:19 PM
by Steve
2 98
Replacement Parts -...
nicholas-KC
08-16-2014 08:40 AM
08-18-2014 03:16 PM
by Steve
4 146
Preparing the soil
Billy Goat
08-16-2014 06:18 PM
08-18-2014 03:01 PM
by Steve
1 94
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
08-18-2014 02:52 PM
by Steve
7 221
What to pay help
phlawncare
08-04-2014 08:33 PM
08-18-2014 10:33 AM
by jrs.landscaping
29 852
Hello
Jeff1
08-07-2014 11:18 PM
08-15-2014 11:53 PM
by Jeff1
11 381
Lie #2 RESIDENTIAL...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-06-2014 05:02 AM
08-15-2014 01:46 PM
by mattthelawnguy
54 6,294
Need help 30 HP koler...
Shady Grady
08-01-2014 03:31 PM
08-15-2014 08:46 AM
by kslawn
18 566
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
08-14-2014 02:37 AM
by BlackRain75
12 1,724
Stihl engine isn't...
Marcintosh
08-12-2014 08:30 PM
08-13-2014 03:34 PM
by Steve
3 151
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
08-13-2014 03:29 PM
by Steve
1 193
Hello from Jacksonville,...
JM Lawn Care
08-10-2014 07:15 AM
08-13-2014 07:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
9 292
Hello everyone new to...
maddyandrays
08-11-2014 04:51 PM
08-12-2014 08:58 PM
by Shark1611
2 150
Walk behinds
hpruitcei
08-07-2014 06:28 PM
08-12-2014 02:35 PM
by mattthelawnguy
7 397
New name help
stevef1201
08-10-2014 04:27 PM
08-12-2014 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 273
my little green dilemmas
Lawn Techie
08-03-2014 11:47 AM
08-11-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
7 389
what the best...
CleanCutsLLC
08-02-2014 01:02 AM
08-11-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
6 394
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
08-11-2014 01:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
13 672
Covering all the bases
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:11 AM
08-08-2014 01:41 PM
by Steve
1 222
New from Florida
ADE
08-06-2014 08:40 PM
08-08-2014 01:32 PM
by Steve
4 300
JOB - Landscape Install...
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
by janslawncare
0 188
Battery power tools or...
Steve
08-07-2014 12:24 PM
08-07-2014 05:18 PM
by mattthelawnguy
2 203
My client just told me...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-04-2014 08:39 AM
08-06-2014 11:14 PM
by grassdoctore
12 522
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
08-06-2014 02:03 PM
by Steve
13 1,141
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
08-06-2014 01:40 PM
by Steve
20 1,345
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
08-06-2014 10:29 AM
by eastsidelandcare
5 574
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
08-05-2014 07:12 PM
by TheBeast
30 1,932
Late charge
Simon Abousaada
07-30-2014 07:23 PM
08-05-2014 06:46 PM
by TheBeast
12 771
buy out a lawn care...
rvezakis
08-05-2014 01:38 PM
08-05-2014 06:40 PM
by TheBeast
10 472
Please help
unitedlawncare48867
03-26-2014 08:29 PM
08-05-2014 05:27 PM
by TheBeast
27 1,554
Help with Estimate
donslawns
08-02-2014 09:10 AM
08-05-2014 02:24 PM
by Steve
6 432
Stuck again!!!!
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-01-2014 11:02 PM
08-05-2014 09:05 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
10 445
Mow and leaf cleanup bid
SGL1
07-29-2014 07:28 PM
08-05-2014 07:22 AM
by petscanning
25 938
Building credit
Matther777
07-27-2014 05:20 PM
08-04-2014 06:53 PM
by kslawn
17 731
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
08-04-2014 01:09 PM
by Steve
48 5,752
long time no see
Tuscan Gardens
08-02-2014 03:21 PM
08-04-2014 12:04 PM
by Steve
1 271
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
08-04-2014 11:58 AM
by Steve
2 307
trimming back shrubs
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 06:14 AM
08-04-2014 11:52 AM
by Steve
6 414
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 06:13 PM
08-04-2014 11:50 AM
by Steve
3 342
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 08:51 AM
08-02-2014 07:55 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
24 3,485
Easy money
stevef1201
11-14-2013 10:17 AM
08-02-2014 01:03 AM
by stevef1201
3 1,495
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-01-2014 11:42 PM
by TNTurf
1,186 327,987
Echo Edger 'Neutral'
WesleySnips
07-25-2014 05:28 PM
08-01-2014 01:50 PM
by stevef1201
7 542
» Popular Tags
4wd advertisement article marketing auger bid butterfly gardens charge courtesy call credit card customers decorating estimate exmark ferris first truck georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business hardscapes health holiday holiday decorating holiday lighting how much to charge introduction john deere quik trac kansas city landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business book lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf lighting marketing monthly mow mulch mulch price new buisness patio install payment podcast property management company pto reo scag schedule scripts seo snow plowing starting a business start up lawn care business stihl theft toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack walker winter winter services
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:51 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:51 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy