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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:46 AM
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What is your view on why you like that better?
Clean Cut has probably had experiences like I've had in the past where once someone has an actual title they assume that responsibility and forget about actually working, they'll just watch or over think everything becoming arrogant and pissing the other guys off.

I like to have guys leading by example though it can be hard making sure several people are doing what they are supposed to be doing and doing it right there is always room for the lead guy to work and if there isn't then you don't need one or two of the less skilled guys.
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Clean Cut has probably had experiences like I've had
Fisher you are correct. I have promoted people in the past only because I needed a leader. Needless to say it was a disaster. The crew rejects the idea and skills needed were just lacking.
I have found it better to take a low profile approach to seeking out your leadership. Leaders seem to raise to the surface and the crew tells you who they are. Watch who the crew turns to for answers / direction. Then look for the qualities you need, work ethic, people skills.
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you guys did make me think about the supervisor position, they do get arrogant i lived through it working with the landscape company i was with a new supervisor thought he was better then many of the other guys and they even had problems to the point of fighting because one wanted to do something the other did not.

now i might do the level 1 level 2 and so on i think i like that idea but it would not be fair to have someone in level 1 for more then 1 year so the pay might cause a problem there.

i want to leave the same hourly rate for the guy i currently have and pay the other guy/guys $8/hr until they prove they deserve a raise, but then how do i go by giving them raises and only giving them $1 raises while my current guy is getting $4 on top of them?

i think there are lots of questions going through my head
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I like to have guys leading by example though it can be hard making sure several people are doing what they are supposed to be doing and doing it right there is always room for the lead guy to work and if there isn't then you don't need one or two of the less skilled guys.
like i said before we had landscape jobs and my base worker did lead by example keeping the pase for the rest of the other guys so i guess he can do it already
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i want to leave the same hourly rate for the guy i currently have and pay the other guy/guys $8/hr until they prove they deserve a raise, but then how do i go by giving them raises and only giving them $1 raises while my current guy is getting $4 on top of them?

i think there are lots of questions going through my head
Best practice to encourage our employees to keep wage conversions between yourself and the individual. Bad blood is usually the only out come when they compare among themselves. During performance reviews with employees I have asked them to direct all concerns about wage to me. After all I was the only one that could solve issues anyway.
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typically a raise is expected for a "promotion." going from helper to supervisor the guy is likely going to expect to get more than a buck more an hour.

Advice to op, make sure you bump his pay again after you expand your client list to whatever your new max is because of this move.

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