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Graphic design discussions for your Lawn Care Business. Logos, Postcards, Door Hangers, Flyers, etc. Show off your designs!
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:47 PM
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Oh I really like your logo designs!
What is your view on how best to judge when there is TOO much effect in a logo?
when readability suffers, then that is to much. general rule is usual only one or two. Look at some of the big corporations, they do not rely on pretty effects to get their brand image across. Small business owners can get by with a little more.

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Do you feel a logo should be able to be reproduced using only a minimal amount of colors?
Colors used should create harmony. I start designing anything whether a logo or a sign in black and white, if it works this way then it is good design. Some things you have your logo put on does count the number of colors used. You want to make sure your logo works as a one or two color design. Tshirt decorators charge you by the number of colors, each color constitutes them making an extra screen. Some places charge as much as 40.00 per screen in addition to the printing and tshirts. If your message can be printed in a single clor ink with the shirt providing the second color then you are charged for one screen fee. If your design has to be three or for colors to get your design to be seen then it can cost you an extra 40 to 160.00 for your shirts.
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Or what's your view on all that?
You can get by with multiple colors as long as it is done correctly. You have to think about what uses you are going to use your logo for. There is times when you need two logos one for regular print and then another for small print. Sometimes a logo can look really good at normal size but then when you make it small it loses all readability.


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Old 03-23-2011, 04:40 PM
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Why do all you guys say that everyone's logos look nice when they don't? Neither of the designs presented on this thread look good. One looks cartoonish and the other looks like it was obviously made by someone who doesnt know what they're doing.

Here's a word of advice. Hire a graphic designer to make your logo. For the couple hunderd you'll spend, you'll actually make yourself look more legit.

I attached mine below. I just started this year, handed out less than 400 flyers and I'm getting calls everyday. Way more than the 1% that people have suggested on this site. This site has a lot of good info, but I question what some people have been posting here.

Attached is a mock design. Disregard the website as this was on my first proof and I have decided to not do a site just yet.
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:48 PM
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First of all King, I am a professional. I am a professional sign maker. Secondly the logo I posted took a total of 3 minutes to put together. It is by no means a finished product. It was meant to show him an illustration what I was talking about. Third your logo is a simple font manipulation, without a graphic element. I find that the info at the bottom of your card gets lost in the graphics of the card, but this is just my opinion.
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Old 03-23-2011, 06:59 PM
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To be fair, he makes a good point. I see some amateurish, to downright bad designs that get high praises.

There may be several reasons for this, first being the fact that many people don't honestly know what is and isn't good design work. Some just post to be supportive, which is understandable, but not always helpful.
For the latter, it is better to point out potential issues, than to allow the person to move forward, spending their hard earned money on promotional pieces that may need to be reordered after finding a flaw in their original design.

The problem is that not everyone has an eye for this sort of thing and that's why it's not always the best idea to ask a bunch of "lawn people" what they think of a logo with a "grass" design in it. 9 times out of ten they will like it no matter how good or bad it is because it has "grass" in it.

Hell, I'm a graphic designer and I had to tweak my own logo after someone here pointed out a potential "flaw" in it.




Getting back to the OP's logo... what was stated earlier about "starting" with a black and white design is sound design advice. So long as your logo can work well like that, a more "fancy" VERSION (like the full color/detailed image first shown) of it is acceptable - IF it's used appropriately.
It's always good to have different versions for different applications.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:06 PM
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First of all King, I am a professional. I am a professional sign maker. Secondly the logo I posted took a total of 3 minutes to put together. It is by no means a finished product. It was meant to show him an illustration what I was talking about. Third your logo is a simple font manipulation, without a graphic element. I find that the info at the bottom of your card gets lost in the graphics of the card, but this is just my opinion.

Whether its a simple font manipulation or not, I think it looks pretty damn good and better than most of the stuff I've seen here. Not saying I'm the greatest here at all, but it's a simple logo that works well.

If you want to call font manipulation, fine, go ahead, I don't care.

Second, the wording in my grass was eliminated, hence when I talked about this being an initial proof.

All I said before was that people are praising anything and patting people on the back for bad work. I'm telling the guy that his logo wasn't any good. So, go and shoot the messenger.
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Well, this is ridiculous.

Everything is based off of opinions, and facts people may have heard one time on their educational journey to success.

Sometimes you gotta step back and say, are we debating opinions? That would make every point we make invalid.

You could say, "he said, she said" when it comes to statistics... but really... If you weren't there when these statistics became "true" and did your own hat trick research, then it's useless. It'd even be useless if you did, because your research might disappoint you while others appreciate it, vice-versa.

Until we can ask every single person we are catering to what they like, we will never know. If the majority here doesn't like something - there is most likely a majority elsewhere.



Anyway, the point of all this rant is just to let you all know my logo is the best in the world. I climbed mount Everest. From there, I took a flying vessel straight into the sun only to return with my logo and several battle scars which I had received from the great battle of the gods and myself. I had won, and so I return with this awesome greatness you can fry an egg on.




I'm going to bed, I don't know what the heck I just wrote... all I know is


this face... it's not good for advertising. People wont like it, it needs to work well in black and white, we live in the dark ages.

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Well, this is ridiculous.

Everything is based off of opinions, and facts people may have heard one time on their educational journey to success.

Sometimes you gotta step back and say, are we debating opinions? That would make every point we make invalid.

You could say, "he said, she said" when it comes to statistics... but really... If you weren't there when these statistics became "true" and did your own hat trick research, then it's useless. It'd even be useless if you did, because your research might disappoint you while others appreciate it, vice-versa.

Until we can ask every single person we are catering to what they like, we will never know. If the majority here doesn't like something - there is most likely a majority elsewhere.



Anyway, the point of all this rant is just to let you all know my logo is the best in the world. I climbed mount Everest. From there, I took a flying vessel straight into the sun only to return with my logo and several battle scars which I had received from the great battle of the gods and myself. I had won, and so I return with this awesome greatness you can fry an egg on.




I'm going to bed, I don't know what the heck I just wrote... all I know is


this face... it's not good for advertising. People wont like it, it needs to work well in black and white, we live in the dark ages.


LOL! Thanks everyone for you input. I see I have a lot to think about. I will let you all know what I come up with.
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Well ultimately the beauty of it all is that you can go with what you have now and change it later.

For instance.

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^^^ Yes, it can change, but none of the basic rules pointed out by WilliamsLawn should be ignored in the process.

There are simply unavoidable truths to advertising and graphic design that can not be ignored.
Well, they CAN be, but the results are less than impressive.

The internet, and availability of graphics software to the "general public" has really made a mess of things to the extent that anyone with a computer can pass themselves off as a graphic artist - or at least they can fool those who don't know any better into thinking they are.

Just like woodworking, landscaping, or repairing engines - graphic design is part technical skill, and part natural talent. The first part you can "fake" - the other you can't.
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Has anyone made their own LOGO? I am interested getting one and wanted to see how others pieced theirs together what website or software did you use? Any help would be appreciated.
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