Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Was my bid to high or was I LOWBALLED!!!!


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-09-2011, 08:34 AM
winkie61 winkie61 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fayetteville,NC
Posts: 54
Rep Power: 6
winkie61 is on a distinguished road
Question Was my bid to high or was I LOWBALLED!!!!

:Hi out there, I'm starting to get more calls in for bids to do jobs because of referrals from other customers who appreciate my work. I also have my website finally up and running. www.vclawnservice.com stop by and check it out. I will definitely appreciate some feedback. However, I did a bid for a potential client and here is a description of services along with the bid amount. Lawn size is 12,917 sq ft. Initial service charge was 150.00 a little leaves but alot of edge work. 35 Shrubs to be trimmed at 5.00 per= 175.00, 8 Crepe Myrtles to be pruned at 30.00= 240.00 one of the Myrtles she wanted trimmed just below her fascia board on the side of the house and not trimmed all the way down like the other 7. She also wanted 2 shrubs removed 25.00=50.00,She wanted pine bark nuggets for a 1022 sq ft mulch bed which would require 86 bags @ 3.00per bag= 86x3=258 + 8% sales tax= 278.64 x 2 (my charge for the install) = 557.28 rounded it to 560.00, My Dump fee was 50.00 for a total of 1,225.00 She said that she had other estimates and that I was much higher. However, I'm here in Fay, NC where this is the home of the 82nd Airborne Division and the area was not effected by the economy as the rest of the US. (Keep in mind the actual price for the mulch would have been 2.00per bag= 86x2=172.00+8% sales tax=185.76 x 2= 371.52 round up to 375.00) Should I have used the 2.00 format for the Mulch or use the current 3.00 formula which I charged an additional 1.00 per bag. I would love to hear some opinions out there on my prices per service. I know we have lowballers out here but I want to make a living and not become someone's yard boy. Please I would love to hear some opinions.

Last edited by winkie61; 03-09-2011 at 08:36 AM.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-09-2011, 08:55 AM
jymie's Avatar
jymie jymie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hamburg New York
Posts: 912
Rep Power: 7
jymie is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by winkie61 View Post
:Hi out there, I'm starting to get more calls in for bids to do jobs because of referrals from other customers who appreciate my work. I also have my website finally up and running. www.vclawnservice.com stop by and check it out. I will definitely appreciate some feedback. However, I did a bid for a potential client and here is a description of services along with the bid amount. Lawn size is 12,917 sq ft. Initial service charge was 150.00 a little leaves but alot of edge work. 35 Shrubs to be trimmed at 5.00 per= 175.00, 8 Crepe Myrtles to be pruned at 30.00= 240.00 one of the Myrtles she wanted trimmed just below her fascia board on the side of the house and not trimmed all the way down like the other 7. She also wanted 2 shrubs removed 25.00=50.00,She wanted pine bark nuggets for a 1022 sq ft mulch bed which would require 86 bags @ 3.00per bag= 86x3=258 + 8% sales tax= 278.64 x 2 (my charge for the install) = 557.28 rounded it to 560.00, My Dump fee was 50.00 for a total of 1,225.00 She said that she had other estimates and that I was much higher. However, I'm here in Fay, NC where this is the home of the 82nd Airborne Division and the area was not effected by the economy as the rest of the US. (Keep in mind the actual price for the mulch would have been 2.00per bag= 86x2=172.00+8% sales tax=185.76 x 2= 371.52 round up to 375.00) Should I have used the 2.00 format for the Mulch or use the current 3.00 formula which I charged an additional 1.00 per bag. I would love to hear some opinions out there on my prices per service. I know we have lowballers out here but I want to make a living and not become someone's yard boy. Please I would love to hear some opinions.
I have found that most people will say "your bid is much higher" in an attempt to get the lowest possible price out of you. You mentioned that you doubled the mulch cost to cover your install, I would say then that adding the extra dollar per bag would then be unnecesary. Can you post a picture from an overhead shot of the site? Bing maps is a good tool also.

Last edited by jymie; 03-09-2011 at 08:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-09-2011, 09:32 AM
Fisher Fisher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: White Bluff, TN
Posts: 156
Rep Power: 5
Fisher is on a distinguished road
Default

I might would have offered a small percentage off the whole bid and just said that was the best I could do. I would keep the $1 mark up on the mulch (especially if your price is lower than if she'd have went and paid for it herself) as it would cost you near that to have it delivered. Time picking up and loading materials I believe should be figured into a bid somewhere.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-09-2011, 02:15 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 7
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by winkie61 View Post
::I know we have lowballers out here but I want to make a living and not become someone's yard boy. Please I would love to hear some opinions.
I think you may have answered your question with your last comment about "just being someone's yard boy". If a lower price would make you feel like being someone's yard boy, then your price is right on. I've had clients say the same thing about being high and have learned that usually they don't end up being happy with the level of service they recieved from the lower bid.

What you need to keep in mind is that it takes money, good equipment, knowledge, experience and pride in workmanship to do a job right. Knowledge, experience and pride in workmanship are assets you can market and every customer will have different value on them. Feel confident with your bid, you'll end up winning more than you lose in the long run.

Lloyd
Blue's YardFX
Camrose, Alberta
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-10-2011, 01:37 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,458
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Should I have used the 2.00 format for the Mulch or use the current 3.00 formula which I charged an additional 1.00 per bag. I would love to hear some opinions out there on my prices per service. I know we have lowballers out here but I want to make a living and not become someone's yard boy. Please I would love to hear some opinions.
How long did you figure it would take you to install the mulch?

Also is there a way for you to get this mulch in bulk, at a bulk rate price and not bagged?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-10-2011, 07:17 AM
winkie61 winkie61 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fayetteville,NC
Posts: 54
Rep Power: 6
winkie61 is on a distinguished road
Default Was my bid to high or was I lowballed

Steve, I cannot get the pine bark mulch in bulk only in bags for this area.
Pine bark mulch is not that much in demand for this area. I just wanted to know if my prices per service was in the neighborhood for the landscape market or was I to high for the market?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-10-2011, 10:43 AM
winkie61 winkie61 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fayetteville,NC
Posts: 54
Rep Power: 6
winkie61 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by winkie61 View Post
Steve, I cannot get the pine bark mulch in bulk only in bags for this area.
Pine bark mulch is not that much in demand for this area. I just wanted to know if my prices per service was in the neighborhood for the landscape market or was I to high for the market?
also it would have taken us between 1 1/2hrs - 2hrs to install the mulch
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-10-2011, 02:43 PM
Liberty Landscaping LLC Liberty Landscaping LLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Woodbridge, NJ
Posts: 243
Rep Power: 6
Liberty Landscaping LLC is on a distinguished road
Default

I personally buy it all in bulk. I have an ez-dumper so it saves delivery. If you buy in bulk or alot they normally deliver for free. I would have tried to sell her on another style mulch. I am not sure about your area for pricing. I normally break down the products and labor for big jobs. I have an hourly wage worked out for myself and whoever I will hire and guesstimate time. I normally round up. In the end if it was less time I say listen I was able to cut you a break here and they love me for being honest and up front. Try it out I esp do that with exsisting customers. If it isn't and existing customer I will cut them a break but not as big knowing it's a one time deal. Then hand them a few cards and flyers and say if you were happy pass them around to friends and family. It has given me a few more customers and it was only 20-50 dollars I cut them and it made out in the end. I know people in the business so I ask them what they charge. It makes it easier because then there isn't a lot of undercutting going on. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-10-2011, 02:48 PM
Liberty Landscaping LLC Liberty Landscaping LLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Woodbridge, NJ
Posts: 243
Rep Power: 6
Liberty Landscaping LLC is on a distinguished road
Default

I fogot if you are insured. Tell them I am fully insured and insurance is expensive but it protects you as well as me. I am honest with everyone. Call her up and say is there any questions you have on the bill or do you need anything explained about how we will perform the work. I might be a little more expensive in some areas but I am up front honest and personable with clients. I shake hands, smile, dress nice, and give out my card. I have gotten accounts over others for that reason and they say you were a little more but that's what sold us was your attitude and explinations. Just what works for me...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-11-2011, 12:28 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,458
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
She wanted pine bark nuggets for a 1022 sq ft mulch bed which would require 86 bags @ 3.00per bag= 86x3=258 + 8% sales tax= 278.64 x 2 (my charge for the install) = 557.28 rounded it to 560.00,
(Keep in mind the actual price for the mulch would have been 2.00per bag= 86x2=172.00+8% sales tax=185.76 x 2= 371.52 round up to 375.00) Should I have used the 2.00 format for the Mulch or use the current 3.00 formula which I charged an additional 1.00 per bag.
also it would have taken us between 1 1/2hrs - 2hrs to install the mulch
Ok lets break this down.

Say 2 man hours to install this total?

Your cost for the mulch is $375.

You are charging the customer $560 for mulch and install.

($560 - $375) / (2 man hours) = $92.50 per man hour for this mulch job install.

Is $92.50 the hourly fee you are shooting for on all your services? Does this seem high, just right, or low to you?

How does this price compare to the amount you are charging per hour for lawn care or other services?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
just want to say high fatboy1450 Introduce Yourself 2 01-05-2011 05:44 PM
Getting high end customers Steve Lawn Care Marketing & Post your marketing material for review! 9 08-14-2010 09:30 AM
High Points StartALawnCareBusiness HardcoreUnemployable.com 6 08-11-2008 07:05 PM
High Gas Prices TnT Outdoor ervices General Business Discussions 3 05-15-2008 06:46 PM
Some high res. fills for the backgrounds AMW Graphics Truck & Trailer Sign Design, silk screened apparel & uniform discussion 1 09-26-2007 12:14 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
I have a great idea!
biglee
04-05-2015 06:20 PM
Today 05:52 AM
by bridgetdevers
5 669
Unemployment rates drop,...
Steve
Yesterday 12:40 PM
Yesterday 03:53 PM
by GreenWorx
1 46
Before & After tree...
COREtreeservice
07-01-2015 09:20 PM
07-01-2015 09:20 PM
by COREtreeservice
0 62
Dogs
Mr. Mow
06-29-2015 02:37 PM
07-01-2015 11:28 AM
by Steve
6 1,825
Ready to learn and get...
Koley Lawn & Landscape
06-28-2015 05:16 AM
07-01-2015 11:26 AM
by Steve
8 1,819
Three Stripe Land Care...
hammr04
06-30-2015 07:19 PM
07-01-2015 11:24 AM
by Steve
1 62
Just about mid year, how...
GreenWorx
06-24-2015 07:05 PM
06-30-2015 07:41 PM
by hammr04
5 1,879
Country Life Lawn Care
darleneh
06-29-2015 11:24 AM
06-30-2015 01:25 PM
by Steve
3 1,720
Rubber mulch...
avetslawncare
06-24-2015 09:28 PM
06-29-2015 09:23 PM
by Chilehead
6 1,837
I dont know what to do...
Bradcook21
06-21-2015 08:49 AM
06-29-2015 02:30 PM
by Mr. Mow
11 2,090
Marketing ideas
xandrew245x
04-29-2014 06:35 AM
06-25-2015 07:11 PM
by GreenWorx
34 5,685
Never ending sod jobs
avetslawncare
06-05-2015 09:46 PM
06-25-2015 11:42 AM
by Steve
11 2,319
Weed and Feed Service...
mike94740
06-23-2015 05:50 PM
06-24-2015 09:56 PM
by avetslawncare
2 1,775
Trimming hedges / trees,...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
06-23-2015 07:08 PM
06-24-2015 09:59 AM
by Steve
1 1,776
Hi Everyone from Arkansas
KellyMarie
06-04-2015 04:16 PM
06-23-2015 01:34 PM
by KellyMarie
4 2,047
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
06-23-2015 06:36 AM
by GreenWorx
7 2,276
problems with a customer...
LawnCareMan280
06-16-2015 10:26 PM
06-22-2015 11:11 AM
by Steve
6 2,049
Please review this FREE...
markty
06-21-2015 07:42 AM
06-22-2015 11:00 AM
by Steve
1 1,799
A good commercial bid...
burtle
06-20-2015 09:09 PM
06-22-2015 10:56 AM
by Steve
1 1,859
What would you do with...
holymoly
06-20-2015 06:48 PM
06-22-2015 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 1,804
New Member just joined...
vgoleco@hotmail.com
06-19-2015 03:49 PM
06-22-2015 10:42 AM
by Steve
2 1,831
Credit Cards - What's in...
Shark1611
06-16-2015 03:04 PM
06-21-2015 07:24 PM
by Chilehead
4 1,920
Blade usage
Wolf4dk
06-16-2015 12:18 AM
06-21-2015 05:35 PM
by kslawn
4 1,937
Hello, I am new to the...
adamslawnservices
06-17-2015 08:06 PM
06-19-2015 10:28 AM
by Steve
3 1,863
Is it too late to do...
markty
06-16-2015 05:28 PM
06-19-2015 10:22 AM
by Steve
4 1,939
First commercial bid
SGL1
06-12-2015 08:57 PM
06-18-2015 05:04 PM
by SGL1
9 2,300
Needing a website built
burtle
06-17-2015 09:02 AM
06-18-2015 11:02 AM
by Steve
7 2,006
I have been rude and...
biglee
06-15-2015 10:11 PM
06-18-2015 10:46 AM
by Steve
10 2,093
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
06-17-2015 08:38 AM
by burtle
9 3,182
Customer keeps adding...
Mr. Mow
06-13-2015 06:22 AM
06-16-2015 10:23 AM
by Steve
11 2,204
Pass discounts onto...
burnell76
06-03-2015 06:33 PM
06-16-2015 10:02 AM
by burnell76
3 2,028
burned grass only where...
nhauto
06-15-2015 05:28 PM
06-16-2015 09:45 AM
by Steve
2 1,901
Half year mark review.
Steve
06-02-2015 11:24 AM
06-15-2015 01:04 PM
by Steve
18 2,615
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
06-15-2015 01:01 PM
by Steve
86 9,671
New Member
Bruce Fehr
06-05-2015 07:13 PM
06-15-2015 12:53 PM
by Steve
6 2,035
New to the business,...
CarefreeMowing
06-12-2015 02:36 PM
06-15-2015 12:50 PM
by Steve
1 1,915
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 11:45 AM
06-13-2015 08:48 AM
by holymoly
45 11,998
New to the forum, new to...
CarefreeMowing
06-11-2015 12:35 PM
06-12-2015 10:44 AM
by Steve
2 1,834
problems with a customer
LawnCareMan280
05-19-2015 06:28 PM
06-11-2015 10:50 PM
by stallman419
8 2,379
Website Review
Outdoordesignsknox
06-08-2015 08:44 PM
06-11-2015 09:48 PM
by Just for Cuts
13 2,262
another newish job for me
holymoly
06-07-2015 08:34 AM
06-11-2015 10:05 AM
by Steve
8 2,070
Anyone need help? I have...
biglee
05-06-2015 12:22 PM
06-10-2015 01:45 PM
by holymoly
15 2,969
Hello from the GREAT...
gbfarmsllc
06-09-2015 11:10 AM
06-10-2015 01:29 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 1,903
Hey guys and gals, I'm...
Joeyhall
06-03-2015 03:54 PM
06-08-2015 02:15 PM
by chris2500hd
8 2,145
Mowing Bermuda...
Mr. Mow
06-02-2015 12:45 PM
06-08-2015 12:45 PM
by Steve
12 2,298
Hey Guys
PrattLandscaping
06-07-2015 06:37 PM
06-08-2015 12:23 PM
by Steve
2 1,917
Share your stolen...
SGL1
05-27-2015 09:05 PM
06-08-2015 11:54 AM
by Steve
25 2,851
Hello there My name is...
zwalk1839
06-04-2015 11:10 PM
06-08-2015 11:52 AM
by Steve
4 2,030
Laid off oil field...
Mr. Mow
05-30-2015 09:03 AM
06-08-2015 06:20 AM
by Mr. Mow
4 2,135
How do you find one time...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
06-02-2015 09:57 PM
06-05-2015 09:49 PM
by avetslawncare
4 2,062
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping advertising apartment complex apartment lawn care estimate applying bark blowout bob villa collections commercial curb appeal services demonstration design door hangers edging employee problems equipment dealer equipment rental facebook flyers free advertising free lawn care google growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring how to husqvarna increase customers jobs landscape landscape services landscaping lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave new business ordinance past due patio install per hour service plowing pricing push versus ride scripts secrets to landscaping shell shreaded small engine repair snow plowing sq ft square foot trailer trailer mate pro tree tree pics trimmer rack up sell employee web design website website design winterization wood www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy