Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

price list!


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-17-2011, 08:21 PM
Dynasty's Avatar
Dynasty Dynasty is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 13
Rep Power: 8
Dynasty is on a distinguished road
Default price list!

what is a good way to come up with a price list? Cause i am constantly asked what would it cost to get there yard cut. If I had a basic list it would make it more easier to answer there question! I am it the missiouri area!
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 01-17-2011, 09:38 PM
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 74
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 0
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty View Post
what is a good way to come up with a price list? Cause i am constantly asked what would it cost to get there yard cut. If I had a basic list it would make it more easier to answer there question! I am it the missiouri area!
You don't want a price list, but a MINIMUM price list.


Which is very very clever, I have done it.

This way, it allows you to deal with people better and smarter when it comes to offering discounts/ promotions.

You can't offer $5.00 off a $5.00 service, and with all your customers priced differently, similar situations have the potential to happen.

If all of your customers lawns started at (example) $100/month, you can easily figure out a percentage to knock off on a promotion.


I wish you the best of luck.


What I want to do in the future, when I get more volume.

I would like to have the price of my "additional" services vary during the time of year.

Example;
Gutter Clearing will be priced higher during the time of year when I am too busy with other projects. If someone hires me at that time, at least it will be worth it to me.


////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Write down a list of services you offer, get into detail.

Lawn Maintenance alone can break down into certain services;
Mowing, Trimming, Clean-up (blowing grass clippings back onto the lawn)

You can offer MOWING for less, but trimming/clean-up will cost more when put together with mowing.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-17-2011, 10:13 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 8
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty View Post
what is a good way to come up with a price list? Cause i am constantly asked what would it cost to get there yard cut. If I had a basic list it would make it more easier to answer there question! I am it the missiouri area!
I'll share my secret price sheet with you for a small fee.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-18-2011, 02:02 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,574
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
what is a good way to come up with a price list? Cause i am constantly asked what would it cost to get there yard cut. If I had a basic list it would make it more easier to answer there question! I am it the missiouri area!
This is a great question and I think Scott did a great job answering.

Ultimately, you really can't create a price list for a service where the variables change from lawn to lawn.

What you can do to make it easier on yourself is figure out how much you are charging per lawn per sqft.

Measure each of your lawns with a surveyor's wheel and figure out the sq.ft. of the property and then divide the price you are charging by the sq ftof the lawn.

ex. $30 / 1,000 sqft lawn = $.03

Now once you know that, as you get new customers, you should be about to take their sqft and multiply it by that figure you got $.03.

So if a new customer calls and you go over there to find the lawn is 1,500 sq ft. You can plug that into your equation.

ex. 1,500 sqft X $.03 = $45

If your price per sq ft is accurate, then you should be able to scale up or down pretty easily and still be charging an accurate amount based on what you need to charge and make a profit for.

As you experiment with this, you may find, you are making more money on smaller lawns than you are on larger lawns. The reason for this tends to be, you figure you got this great big lawn and you are making more money on it than a smaller lawn so you just guesstimate a higher figure but you are not pricing it properly based on the time it will take you.

Let me know if this helps and what you come up with.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-18-2011, 06:58 AM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 8
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
... ex. 1,500 sqft X $.03 = $45 ...
I don't like how a fixed scale like this works. using 3 cents per square foot means a 4 acre property, taking approximately 3 hours, would cost over $5200 for one cut. Over $1700 per hour.

Using my pricing schedule 4 acres costs about $240.

Last edited by mark123; 01-18-2011 at 07:06 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-18-2011, 07:29 AM
shahoo80 shahoo80 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 6
shahoo80 is on a distinguished road
Default I tired this last year, was a big headache

what I did was charge I think so much per 1,000 sq. feet then added a 15.00 per stop charge. Also it was stated that this was for minimal trimming. This gave them a basic price before you actually put a number on the bid.

I used this on Craigslist ads because of the tire kickers. Gave them a base price and made sure they were ok with that before I drove over for the sales pitch and actual estiamte. Just weeded out alot of the tire kickers first.

For example:
5000 sq. ft.
$1.50 per 1000 sq ft.= $7.50
Stop Charge $15.00
Total=$22.50
then usually added 3 to 5 extra for excess trimming.

Like I said I tried this as gimmie so people could have price in mind before driving all over for the tire kicking bids. But ended up being more of a hassle.

I think we are always trying to tweak our systems in one way or anther just trying to keep an edge on the competition. I am going to try a different pricing guide this year again to see how it works we will see.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-18-2011, 07:59 AM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 8
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shahoo80 View Post
what I did was charge I think so much per 1,000 sq. feet then added a 15.00 per stop charge. ...
That seems to be the perfect balance. X per 1000 sq. ft. + stop charge. The stop charge give you your minimum. If you want $20 to be your minimum then make your stop charge $19 and round up. That way you can line up some small lawns of 800 sqft each and do 4 in an hour. $80 per hour!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Ummm... do people actually go out and measure their property to see how much it will cost them to hire you?
I can't see that happening when it's easier to just ask you "How much?"


People are like water - they take the path of least resistance.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-19-2011, 01:34 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,574
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I used this on Craigslist ads because of the tire kickers. Gave them a base price and made sure they were ok with that before I drove over for the sales pitch and actual estiamte. Just weeded out alot of the tire kickers first.
Did you ever run into any problems where you quoted one price but when you got to the location, you knew you had to charge more and that caused an issue with the customer?



Quote:
Like I said I tried this as gimmie so people could have price in mind before driving all over for the tire kicking bids. But ended up being more of a hassle.
Can you tell us more why this wound up being more of a hassle?


Also, I wonder, if you try to weed out 'tire kickers' and want to lower the amount of estimates you give, isn't that going to be counter productive? Every time you are being called to give a quote, doesn't that give you a stage to make your sales pitch and also point out other issues/services the customer might not have considered?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-20-2011, 12:35 AM
shahoo80 shahoo80 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 45
Rep Power: 6
shahoo80 is on a distinguished road
Default Craiglist Tire Kickers

Was usually not a problem with a phone quote because of 2 reasons, first google earth fins the address and scale it out gets you pretty close to the size of the yard and layout. It also lets you see potential problems if they are big enough.

It ended up being a hassle for several reasons, I would go to the customers house go to the door do the intros and listen to what the customers wants and needs then head out to the yard. Almost always the customer says well my lot is this size and when you roll it out it's always bigger. So right off the bat the customer is thinking you are padding the size. I tried to combat that by getting the customer to walk with me for 2 reasons I got him involved in writing the measurement down for me just so they could see I was not trying to pad the size and it gave me great time with customer to point out any problems and throw the sales pitch to them. So after it was more and more of hassle I started changing my ad and shying away from giving price per 1000 sq. ft.

I learned alot about the tire kickers around here and learned big lessons. Yes I am considering lowering some pricing but in certain instances which I may be rethinking again if fuel keeps going up....

But back to the tire kickers early in the season and being first full year of business I was excited eager and just chomping at the bit to work. Which this is all fine and dandy but you have to be smart which I learned. My biggest problem was not asking enough probative questions. After you talk to enough people you start to pick up on indicators that they are shopping around or tire kicking. Everyone that starts out makes mistakes and hopefully learns and uses that informaton to move forward and if we dont well the business does not stay long.
I am still thinking about lowering my prices for 2 locations that I work in, I have run the numbers over and over and think that I can make more doing this, only because it's all close together no winshield time at all and I can really rack up the accounts in a day.
I am just ready for the season to start again,Got all my ads done and ready to go in the papers and magazines, have my door hangers printed and ready, new shirts and hats hanging in the closet and one can only do so much cleaning and maint. on equipment.HAHA,,,,
But since it just dumped another 8" of snow it's back to plowing for now.
But hey I am not complaining money is money.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Christmas Wish List? Steve General Talk 0 11-24-2006 08:47 AM
Route List gene gls Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 6 04-07-2006 08:58 PM
Route List gene gls Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 03-30-2006 03:25 AM
Route List gene gls Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 3 03-26-2006 07:16 PM
customer list T. King Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 5 11-28-2005 10:41 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Sample commercial bid
burtle
Yesterday 06:02 PM
Today 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 78
Your 2015 summer review.
Steve
09-01-2015 11:01 AM
Today 10:09 AM
by Steve
4 156
SCAG Tiger Cat DECK...
rower30
08-24-2013 10:07 AM
Today 08:50 AM
by Sunpointair
15 4,980
best way to.....
Wolf4dk
Yesterday 11:35 AM
Today 06:45 AM
by Chilehead
4 82
John Deere 667a
acrajchel
08-30-2015 10:00 AM
Yesterday 07:45 PM
by Just for Cuts
5 129
Dane Scag
Steve
08-28-2015 12:29 PM
08-28-2015 12:29 PM
by Steve
0 104
24 and 50 acre cemetery...
grassmasterswilson
08-18-2015 10:09 AM
08-26-2015 02:42 PM
by Steve
13 643
Rookie business question...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
08-05-2015 05:20 PM
08-26-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
3 437
How to clean an old...
rmccutchan
08-16-2015 05:23 PM
08-26-2015 02:31 PM
by Steve
9 461
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
08-26-2015 12:25 PM
by kslawn
19 3,823
Needing a website built
burtle
06-17-2015 09:02 AM
08-25-2015 11:31 AM
by acrajchel
9 2,513
Big mowing job
Bradcook21
07-30-2015 03:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:23 AM
by acrajchel
17 1,052
ZTR Review
Shark1611
05-31-2012 10:42 PM
08-25-2015 11:16 AM
by acrajchel
8 3,801
Hi Everyone
mmays29
08-25-2015 08:16 AM
08-25-2015 11:15 AM
by Steve
3 144
Should I buy this Exmark...
googus
07-03-2015 09:22 AM
08-25-2015 11:08 AM
by acrajchel
11 1,271
Old Business New Owner
Toyman
06-17-2014 08:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:00 AM
by acrajchel
16 1,655
Hi everyone! We're new...
alltrades
08-22-2015 12:46 PM
08-24-2015 10:41 AM
by Steve
2 199
CAn I get some help with...
rootytalbot
08-11-2015 06:14 PM
08-24-2015 10:36 AM
by Steve
12 597
Hi
Wemowjunction
08-16-2015 08:45 PM
08-20-2015 01:46 PM
by Steve
11 447
Drive cable bad?
SGL1
08-10-2015 11:16 PM
08-20-2015 01:41 PM
by Steve
5 405
Hey there everyone
Cole8999
08-16-2015 04:42 PM
08-18-2015 04:35 PM
by Steve
3 284
Help with a truck
bdodson89
04-27-2015 08:15 PM
08-18-2015 11:47 AM
by rmccutchan
7 1,047
I need some aeration...
rootytalbot
08-14-2015 12:32 PM
08-18-2015 07:59 AM
by rootytalbot
7 502
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-17-2015 04:34 PM
by Steve
1,229 406,429
Whats wrong with this...
GreenWorx
07-28-2015 07:56 PM
08-16-2015 11:42 PM
by rmccutchan
3 632
What's your next...
Steve
05-15-2015 11:54 AM
08-16-2015 11:09 PM
by SC93
16 1,288
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
08-14-2015 11:08 PM
by scaypa
95 11,549
New Biz
kufnerins
08-14-2015 05:52 PM
08-14-2015 08:56 PM
by Steve
1 237
Chemical and Fertilizer...
rmccutchan
08-09-2015 10:36 PM
08-13-2015 11:11 PM
by rmccutchan
6 448
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
08-13-2015 02:10 PM
by rootytalbot
12 2,123
Hello all thinking about...
bernie
08-11-2015 04:28 PM
08-13-2015 10:33 AM
by Steve
8 401
Logo Help Font Color
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:26 PM
08-12-2015 03:50 PM
by Steve
4 384
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
07-07-2015 06:15 AM
08-12-2015 12:30 AM
by Jeff1
20 1,864
My new mower
Chilehead
08-08-2015 09:09 PM
08-11-2015 08:36 PM
by Chilehead
9 570
Thought this was a good...
Just for Cuts
08-06-2015 03:38 PM
08-11-2015 10:54 AM
by Steve
8 552
Plowing pricing
jcurr33
08-08-2015 04:58 PM
08-11-2015 10:51 AM
by Steve
6 562
Should I upgrade my back...
googus
08-07-2015 10:50 AM
08-11-2015 10:44 AM
by googus
7 471
Keeping it clean....
Wolf4dk
08-09-2015 11:31 PM
08-11-2015 06:34 AM
by Chilehead
7 393
I have been rude and...
biglee
06-15-2015 10:11 PM
08-10-2015 09:41 PM
by stallman419
12 2,786
Newbie Saying Hi.
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:22 PM
08-10-2015 11:20 AM
by Steve
1 282
How much do I charge to...
Chris Herrera
08-06-2015 09:30 PM
08-09-2015 11:31 AM
by biglee
2 495
scag SWZT review!
mattthelawnguy
07-23-2015 02:28 PM
08-07-2015 03:26 PM
by Steve
17 1,190
Best commercial contract...
sanlanct
08-04-2015 12:18 PM
08-06-2015 06:20 AM
by sanlanct
2 426
I came across this on a...
rootytalbot
08-02-2015 11:04 AM
08-05-2015 08:17 PM
by SC93
9 661
Help bidding a hedge...
hopolb33
08-02-2015 06:09 PM
08-05-2015 02:07 PM
by Steve
3 462
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping advertising aerocore applying bark billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush contract help curb appeal services demonstration design door hangers edging employee problems equipment dealer equipment rental facebook flyers free advertising free lawn care google growing a lawn care business hiring how to hydro increase customers jobs landscape landscaping landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave mulch new business ordinance per hour charge per hour service plowing pricing profit on employee roundup scag secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shell shreaded solo solo backpack sprayer sq ft square foot swzt tree tree pics up sell employee walk behind web design website website design winterization wood www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:53 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:53 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy