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[Hedgemaster]

Originally Posted by The Cleaning Doctor It might help if you all post what browser you are using to view the site with. They do not all show up the same. PITA for designers. Death to IE. Firefox (2.0.0.20) I'm on an old Mac with a fairly outdated OSX 10.3.9 Maybe it's just me.

[Yard Elements]

Lawn care business tips

Webpage is OK. As far as the browers go, you simply need to download most of them and cross browser check your site, all designers do this. I would not try to code HTML or XHTML unless you have too, most templates are not that great either. Get Dreamweaver, and Photoshop, and Illustrator. Use illustrator for Vector art that you need to blow up, business cards, vinyl etc. Use dreamweaver and draw absolute Dive tags and edit the images. It's so easy and is pretty close on all browsers. Use photoshop to edit your images. I also didn't really like the lawn mower, picture with the faces. You can also use illustrator to draw a webpage then export to html. Boughter you site is pretty fresh. Nice job on the background graphics. I personally don't like to call my company "lawn care" or "mowing" because people assume that that is all that you do this may limit the services they call you for. My company name is "landscape Services" and some people find it strange that I clean gutters etc. just people are SLOW

[Yard Elements]

The reason i said the page was OK was because I feel that a "unprofessional" webpage can actually be a bad thing. Not that yours is horrible just saying in general, a bad webpage is worse than no webpage. I feel the same about signs. I sometimes see crappy spray painted signs, to me all that says is my company is broken.

[mark123]

Originally Posted by Yard Elements

... Use dreamweaver and draw absolute Dive tags and edit the images. It's so easy and is pretty close on all browsers. ...

I'd advise against using absolute positioning on major page elements. There are so many gotchas with absolute positioning that I'd just say don't use it at all.

[mark123]

Originally Posted by Yard Elements

The reason i said the page was OK was because I feel that a "unprofessional" webpage can actually be a bad thing. Not that yours is horrible just saying in general, a bad webpage is worse than no webpage. I feel the same about signs. I sometimes see crappy spray painted signs, to me all that says is my company is broken.

It's a good point. I always say "having a poorly designed web site is like handing someone a dirty and torn business card".

[Yard Elements]

I've made lots of webpages with AP Div tags and never had an issue in dreamweaver what issues have you had.

[mark123]

Originally Posted by Yard Elements

I've made lots of webpages with AP Div tags and never had an issue in dreamweaver what issues have you had.

Show me one of your pages and I'll show you is something is wrong with position:absolute;. It's rarely necessary and usually detrimental.

[Yard Elements]

Also mark how did you get you pics that pop up all nice like that when you click on them? thats great. Any suggestion on tags and coding? I am starting my site in the next week or so. thanks !

[mark123]

Originally Posted by Yard Elements

Also mark how did you get you pics that pop up all nice like that when you click on them? thats great. Any suggestion on tags and coding? I am starting my site in the next week or so. thanks !

Google around for "lightbox". That's the old version so you'll probably want to look for a jQuery plugin that does something similar.

Here are a few tips for beginners: http://imaginekitty.com/steps-to-bui...oper-web-page/

[mark123]

Originally Posted by Yard Elements

I've made lots of webpages with AP Div tags and never had an issue in dreamweaver what issues have you had.

I wanted to bring this topic back up and perhaps offer a few more tips. My point of not using absolute positioning unless you know what you're doing (and if you did know what you're doing you wouldn't use it ) brings up another issue. Every time I point it out everyone says "well, it looks fine on my computer". I say that's fine if you are making a web site for yourself. I make my sites for the viewer, not for myself.

You just can't assume that everyone has your browser or even your browser settings, even if you have default settings. You also can't assume that everyone can see or hear as you do.

I find that the use of absolute positioning on web pages shows a little bit of "control freak". You want to control what the end user sees but that's not what web pages are about. Let go a little bit and give the end user the choice of manipulating the pages to their own comfort level. Don't force them into your mold.

Also, in the name of all that is Holy, don't make me listen to music on your site. The default option for background sounds is OFF and the default option for videos is PAUSED. Let me choose if I want thrash metal blasting through my speakers at 2 am. Thanks.