Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Load of dirt


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-16-2013, 09:24 PM
Greg'slawnandlandscape Greg'slawnandlandscape is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Jacksonville north Carolina
Posts: 401
Rep Power: 3
Greg'slawnandlandscape is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Load of dirt

Yesterday before my accident I dropped off a load of dirt. The customer asked for a pickup sized load so I quoted 45 for topsoil when I went to drop it off she said that the dirt was not enough and she wouldn't pay 45 for it. I explained to her that that was a truck load 2000 pounds is what I asked to have dropped in also the capacity for a 1500 so after back and fourth arguing over her saying her f150 could hold three times as much I dropped the price because I didn't want to take it home but what do I do if they refuse to pay do I just bite they bullet and take it with me or what I am very good with my prices and never had this happen when the customer tells me exactly how much they want it would have been different if she said can u drop off a load of dirt because that leaves room for a lot of dirt or a little but she specified a pickup truck load. How would you handle this.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Hedgemaster Hedgemaster is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,772
Rep Power: 0
Hedgemaster is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
She DIDN'T tell you "exactly" how much.

She said a "pickup sized load". How much IS that, exactly?

When you bought the soil, did they charge by the yard, or "by the pickup"?

Bulk material is sold in specific measurements for a reason.



Maybe she was just upset because you don't use periods, or comas.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-16-2013, 10:14 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgemaster View Post

Maybe she was just upset because you don't use periods, or comas.
lol

Dirt is usually sold by the ton. So when she said load you shoudlve converted the sale to tons. Then if she argues with you about it not being a ton. You pull out the weighted receipt. Easy as pie!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-17-2013, 08:59 AM
Greg'slawnandlandscape Greg'slawnandlandscape is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Jacksonville north Carolina
Posts: 401
Rep Power: 3
Greg'slawnandlandscape is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
lol

Dirt is usually sold by the ton. So when she said load you shoudlve converted the sale to tons. Then if she argues with you about it not being a ton. You pull out the weighted receipt. Easy as pie!
They load it by scoop two and half scoops is 2000 pounds an trust me it wasn't a little dirt but for now on I will pull across the scale. And here is her exact words from the text " I need a pickup truck bed of dirt" she didn't know I was bringing a trailer she thought I had a pickup and if I had a pick up That was a 1500 i would never over load it with more than 2000 pounds. Thanks for the advice if you have the whieght ticket they can't argue
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-17-2013, 09:17 AM
SNethercutt SNethercutt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 202
Rep Power: 3
SNethercutt is on a distinguished road
Default

I would ask her to go put 3x that in her f-150 and haul it home, and if she does you will spread it free. Otherwise pay what she agreed to.

Her tires wouldn't make it out of the dirt yard. And the oil from her shocks would be everywhere. Not to mention a bent frame.

Make customers be very specific. If they say "I want a pickup bed load" explain a pickup bed holds this much. Then they say OK. You bring them that much and its the end of the story. Sounds to me like she was vague for a reason. Wants something for nothing.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-17-2013, 09:25 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
lol

Dirt is usually sold by the ton. So when she said load you shoudlve converted the sale to tons. Then if she argues with you about it not being a ton. You pull out the weighted receipt. Easy as pie!

i have never heard of soil, mulch or any other product that can absorb or trap water being sold by weight.
it is sold by volume not weight.

anyone who sells soil by weight is ripping people off.

1 cubic yard of top soil averages about a ton in weight and if it was wet it could weight as much as a ton and a half.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-17-2013, 09:32 AM
SNethercutt SNethercutt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 202
Rep Power: 3
SNethercutt is on a distinguished road
Default

Here you can buy it both ways depending on where you go. Where consumers go its by the size, yard or half yard.

You can get it by weight if you buy straight from the provider, because they have 5 yard buckets and of course that won't fit in a truck.

Although there is a Mexican fella that comes into the yard I use to work at, and puts 5 yards of mulch in a long wheel base f150. But I wouldn't recommend that. His tires were over inflated.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-17-2013, 09:40 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg'slawnandlandscape View Post
They load it by scoop two and half scoops is 2000 pounds an trust me it wasn't a little dirt but for now on I will pull across the scale. And here is her exact words from the text " I need a pickup truck bed of dirt" she didn't know I was bringing a trailer she thought I had a pickup and if I had a pick up That was a 1500 i would never over load it with more than 2000 pounds. Thanks for the advice if you have the whieght ticket they can't argue
i never heard that term "scoop" before referring to how they load a truck.
they use a loader to put the product on your truck not a "scoop" and loaders come in various sizes ranging from a half yard bucket to a 10 yard bucket and bigger.
most landscape suppliers use machines that have 1 yard buckets to better measure how much product they are giving you because the bigger the bucket they use there is more room for error in giving people more product then they are paying for.

i could put 2,000lbs of weight on a passenger car but that does not mean i would do that and a 1500 series truck is not rated to carry a ton and it does not mean you can not get a ton in it but you will end up destroying the trucks suspension and pretty much beating the crap out of it.

a 1 ton truck is a 3500 series truck.

it appears that you and the lady take the advertisements on tv for trucks quite literally.

did your accident by chance involve brake failure ?

Last edited by dpld; 03-17-2013 at 09:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-17-2013, 09:52 AM
ratchetmaster2 ratchetmaster2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 185
Rep Power: 4
ratchetmaster2 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg'slawnandlandscape View Post
she wouldn't pay 45 for it.
45.....DOLLARS?

Are you kidding me?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-17-2013, 10:22 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratchetmaster2 View Post
45.....DOLLARS?

Are you kidding me?


that is what i was thinking, i don't if you and me are thinking that for the same reason but either way charging 45.00 is ridiculously low and refusing to pay 45.00 for someone you put through the trouble that would not have been bothered if you did not call in the first place is as low as the dirt you dumped on the ground.

i know prices vary from state to state but they can not be that far off.
good quality top soil in my area cost about 30.00 per cubic yard and the minimum delivery charge is 50.00 regardless if you only want a wheel barrow load delivered.

and by real top soil i don't mean any old crap sub soil dirt ran through a screening machine that gets passed off as top soil for a discount.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dirt jonathan thomas Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes 1 03-01-2012 03:26 PM
Help with fill dirt quote, please. SpokaneSRC Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 23 07-06-2011 03:09 PM
What the heck do I do with the dirt? Growing Green Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 9 01-24-2011 09:15 AM
Down load will not work Miller Rules Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 05-26-2005 06:09 PM
Down load will not work Miller Rules Community Assistance 0 05-26-2005 05:13 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Dane Scag
Steve
Yesterday 12:29 PM
Yesterday 12:29 PM
by Steve
0 50
24 and 50 acre cemetery...
grassmasterswilson
08-18-2015 10:09 AM
08-26-2015 02:42 PM
by Steve
13 465
Rookie business question...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
08-05-2015 05:20 PM
08-26-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
3 365
How to clean an old...
rmccutchan
08-16-2015 05:23 PM
08-26-2015 02:31 PM
by Steve
9 366
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
08-26-2015 12:25 PM
by kslawn
19 3,674
Needing a website built
burtle
06-17-2015 09:02 AM
08-25-2015 11:31 AM
by acrajchel
9 2,433
Big mowing job
Bradcook21
07-30-2015 03:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:23 AM
by acrajchel
17 936
ZTR Review
Shark1611
05-31-2012 10:42 PM
08-25-2015 11:16 AM
by acrajchel
8 3,713
Hi Everyone
mmays29
08-25-2015 08:16 AM
08-25-2015 11:15 AM
by Steve
3 93
Should I buy this Exmark...
googus
07-03-2015 09:22 AM
08-25-2015 11:08 AM
by acrajchel
11 1,130
Old Business New Owner
Toyman
06-17-2014 08:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:00 AM
by acrajchel
17 1,537
Hi everyone! We're new...
alltrades
08-22-2015 12:46 PM
08-24-2015 10:41 AM
by Steve
2 145
CAn I get some help with...
rootytalbot
08-11-2015 06:14 PM
08-24-2015 10:36 AM
by Steve
12 464
Hi
Wemowjunction
08-16-2015 08:45 PM
08-20-2015 01:46 PM
by Steve
11 364
Drive cable bad?
SGL1
08-10-2015 11:16 PM
08-20-2015 01:41 PM
by Steve
5 329
Hey there everyone
Cole8999
08-16-2015 04:42 PM
08-18-2015 04:35 PM
by Steve
3 222
Help with a truck
bdodson89
04-27-2015 08:15 PM
08-18-2015 11:47 AM
by rmccutchan
7 933
I need some aeration...
rootytalbot
08-14-2015 12:32 PM
08-18-2015 07:59 AM
by rootytalbot
7 350
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-17-2015 04:34 PM
by Steve
1,229 405,793
Whats wrong with this...
GreenWorx
07-28-2015 07:56 PM
08-16-2015 11:42 PM
by rmccutchan
3 563
What's your next...
Steve
05-15-2015 11:54 AM
08-16-2015 11:09 PM
by SC93
16 1,204
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
08-14-2015 11:08 PM
by scaypa
95 11,381
New Biz
kufnerins
08-14-2015 05:52 PM
08-14-2015 08:56 PM
by Steve
1 194
Chemical and Fertilizer...
rmccutchan
08-09-2015 10:36 PM
08-13-2015 11:11 PM
by rmccutchan
6 371
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
08-13-2015 02:10 PM
by rootytalbot
12 2,038
Hello all thinking about...
bernie
08-11-2015 04:28 PM
08-13-2015 10:33 AM
by Steve
8 339
Logo Help Font Color
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:26 PM
08-12-2015 03:50 PM
by Steve
4 317
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
07-07-2015 06:15 AM
08-12-2015 12:30 AM
by Jeff1
20 1,763
My new mower
Chilehead
08-08-2015 09:09 PM
08-11-2015 08:36 PM
by Chilehead
9 477
Thought this was a good...
Just for Cuts
08-06-2015 03:38 PM
08-11-2015 10:54 AM
by Steve
8 475
Plowing pricing
jcurr33
08-08-2015 04:58 PM
08-11-2015 10:51 AM
by Steve
6 438
Should I upgrade my back...
googus
08-07-2015 10:50 AM
08-11-2015 10:44 AM
by googus
7 406
Keeping it clean....
Wolf4dk
08-09-2015 11:31 PM
08-11-2015 06:34 AM
by Chilehead
7 332
I have been rude and...
biglee
06-15-2015 10:11 PM
08-10-2015 09:41 PM
by stallman419
12 2,714
Newbie Saying Hi.
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:22 PM
08-10-2015 11:20 AM
by Steve
1 237
How much do I charge to...
Chris Herrera
08-06-2015 09:30 PM
08-09-2015 11:31 AM
by biglee
2 373
scag SWZT review!
mattthelawnguy
07-23-2015 02:28 PM
08-07-2015 03:26 PM
by Steve
17 1,101
Best commercial contract...
sanlanct
08-04-2015 12:18 PM
08-06-2015 06:20 AM
by sanlanct
2 371
I came across this on a...
rootytalbot
08-02-2015 11:04 AM
08-05-2015 08:17 PM
by SC93
9 607
Help bidding a hedge...
hopolb33
08-02-2015 06:09 PM
08-05-2015 02:07 PM
by Steve
3 405
recycler toro 22"
rvezakis
08-03-2015 12:10 PM
08-04-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
1 289
Hello Everybody
budspop
07-30-2015 11:42 AM
07-31-2015 12:28 PM
by Steve
1 279
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping advertising aerocore applying bark billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush collections contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design door hangers edging employee problems equipment dealer equipment rental facebook flyers free advertising free lawn care google growing a lawn care business hiring how to hydro increase customers jobs landscape landscaping landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave mulch new business ordinance past due per hour charge per hour service plowing pricing profit on employee roundup scag secrets to landscaping sell the vision seo shell shreaded solo solo backpack sprayer square foot swzt tree pics up sell employee walk behind web design website website design winterization wood www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:53 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:53 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy