Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Graphic And Web Design Support Forums > Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions.

Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions. Need a lawn care business website built? Talk about search engine optimization. Or ask your lawn care and landscaping business web building related questions here. Show us your landscaping business web site for review.

My new Business...What do you think about my website?


Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions.

Need a lawn care business website built? Talk about search engine optimization. Or ask your lawn care and landscaping business web building related questions here. Show us your landscaping business web site for review.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 10-29-2010, 07:15 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

There is no set count on what to use but the rule of thumb is 4-6% so if you have 100 words then you should have 4-6 keywords. Not different ones, the same key word. Now you can have another 4-6 % of a different key word.

Less than that and it under performs. More than that and it looks like spam. That is what caused Google to discount the value of meta tags because web builders stuffed them with the same key word over and over.

By the way Jay was the first one to receive the SEO report on his site. It was 80 pages long and maybe he will drop in and let us know if he learned anything from it and the kind of information that it supplies. He has some work to do but it tells him where to do it.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #22  
Old 10-29-2010, 07:30 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cleaning Doctor View Post
... By the way Jay was the first one to receive the SEO report on his site. It was 80 pages long and maybe he will drop in and let us know if he learned anything from it and the kind of information that it supplies. He has some work to do but it tells him where to do it.
May I ask how much that would cost for my site?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-29-2010, 08:31 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

Sent a Private Message
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-30-2010, 07:58 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Yea I'd like to hear what Jay learned from it and what he is doing with that information.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-31-2010, 06:02 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

I would love to hear what he is implementing also.

Here are some screen shots from a report. I had to black out the site name to protect the innocent..... LOL

You will notice that keyword optimization is below 50% in the body of the page. The report will also give you suggestions on where to fix the issues.

The report will also give you info on your competitors and their keywords etc.

Unfortunately I can't show you any of these types of pages as there is too much info about the site the reports were run against.

The attachments are real web site results and are for examples only. I will never post a report with anyone's info or with the ability for someone to figure out which site it was run on.

All I can say is that this particular site is in the pacific NW.

Text, Text, Text guys. Rankings will go up with more text than fancy flash or animation.

Flash or Animation looks cool but if you never get found on Google, what use is it? Plus, too much of this will cause your page to be slow to load. Have you ever clicked away from a page because it loaded too slow? People want info and they want it now. We are in an instant gratification society so you better be ready to serve it up or they will click on another site.

I am not against flash or animation but most tend to overdo it.

If you look at my wood restoration site, you will see some Java with the photos and the reader board but there is also a lot of supporting text there. You will notice that the photos take some time to load, but in the mean time the text is there for the potential customer to read. I still have a lot of tweaking to do and some pages to finish but I wanted to start getting it crawled so by spring it is rocking.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Keywords in Body text.JPG (123.8 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg Onpage Optimization.JPG (81.1 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg Page Size.JPG (14.7 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg Recommend.JPG (22.6 KB, 5 views)
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-31-2010, 07:45 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,688
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

So then maybe they need to double the amount of keyword usage in the body of the site?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-31-2010, 07:50 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

Not necessarily, If you look at the 4th photo, they are only using 162 words on the page and the SEO guide is telling them they need to be around 1300. There are so many factors that go into the rankings that you can not concentrate on one aspect. It may be that they have to add the key word 2 times to get up hear 100% optimization but it may also be that they have to add 500 words before they start to move up in %.

This software compares your site directly with your competitors in your area and if you can beat their % then you should rank higher in the results.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-31-2010, 08:31 PM
jaytime25 jaytime25 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 5
jaytime25 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cleaning Doctor View Post
Not necessarily, If you look at the 4th photo, they are only using 162 words on the page and the SEO guide is telling them they need to be around 1300. There are so many factors that go into the rankings that you can not concentrate on one aspect. It may be that they have to add the key word 2 times to get up hear 100% optimization but it may also be that they have to add 500 words before they start to move up in %.

This software compares your site directly with your competitors in your area and if you can beat their % then you should rank higher in the results.


i have to say i got a report done by this guy and he was pretty informative. Ive been trying to tweak my site. Ive gotten it from off the top 100 on page rank to 62 on google and 9 on yahoo or there abouts. I have been out of town and will be paying him to list in directories. I just wish i had the cash to pay 250 a month for him to do the optimization. I like to do work with people that help me out, just is out of my budget. Im just at a catch 22 right now, i need optimization to get business, but i dont have the business to pay that much for it right now. I tell my self, if i just get 1 more job a month i could afford it, but i havent been seen to get that business
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10-31-2010, 08:34 PM
jaytime25 jaytime25 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 5
jaytime25 is on a distinguished road
Default

and i have since done even more adjusting to my website such as my h1 heading, some more keywords on home page and backlinking. Curious to see where it goes once it gets cached again
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-31-2010, 09:07 PM
The Cleaning Doctor's Avatar
The Cleaning Doctor The Cleaning Doctor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 927
Rep Power: 6
The Cleaning Doctor is on a distinguished road
Default

That is great to see it is working.

I did some checking after your first post and you are correct, you are moving up. Patience and steady work will eventually get you there.

One thing that will help your rankings guys. Take a look at my signature and that of Steve. You will see key word linking. Line mine Wood Restoration and Organic Lawn Care are both linked to my site. Don't just link to your home pages but also link to interior pages. This way Google will rank your interior pages as well and you can start to have more than one listing on the results pages.

If you always link to one page, that is the one that will rank. Most likely the only one that will show up in the results page.
__________________
Pat
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to use a squeeze page on your lawn care business website. GopherHaul 40 Lawn Care Steve GopherHaul Lawn Care Business Show, Video, Book & Podcast Discussions. 0 08-18-2009 02:49 PM
How to use a squeeze page on your lawn care business website. GopherHaul 40 Lawn Care Steve Lawn Care Business Marketing - GopherHaul Forum News 0 08-18-2009 02:47 PM
Create your business website and domain for $6.99/yr Green_Day Promote your products or services 0 04-02-2009 04:08 PM
Contact Forms For Your Business Website EatingEmoKids General Business Discussions 13 02-24-2009 12:17 AM
Vote for Best Website & Business Forms Steve General Business Discussions 4 04-30-2005 04:38 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
I'm BACK!
SuperiorPower
12-16-2014 11:08 PM
Today 01:58 PM
by SuperiorPower
6 201
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
Yesterday 09:45 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
189 16,615
Georgia Boys!
Chilehead
12-18-2014 10:23 PM
Yesterday 09:36 PM
by Chilehead
2 83
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 08:15 PM
Yesterday 07:48 PM
by SuperiorPower
9 308
Hello from Md
homey
12-17-2014 06:55 PM
Yesterday 06:00 PM
by homey
5 164
Repair or replace the...
lxarth
12-17-2014 05:07 PM
Yesterday 05:44 PM
by stevef1201
7 210
Has Obamacare helped or...
Steve
12-18-2014 04:37 PM
Yesterday 05:43 PM
by stevef1201
3 103
what do you "love" to...
calebmoss
07-06-2011 10:05 PM
12-17-2014 05:09 PM
by Chilehead
28 8,942
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 02:56 PM
12-17-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
23 2,973
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 09:51 AM
12-17-2014 09:40 AM
by SuperiorPower
34 6,117
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
12-17-2014 09:13 AM
by SuperiorPower
15 1,316
New to Gopher Haul-from...
323k13l
12-12-2014 10:34 PM
12-15-2014 02:58 PM
by Steve
3 290
hi
creteland
12-12-2014 09:06 AM
12-15-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
5 291
New addition to my small...
googus
12-12-2014 07:36 PM
12-15-2014 07:47 AM
by googus
4 359
Ferris IS700Z
rmccutchan
12-14-2014 01:10 AM
12-14-2014 11:41 PM
by rmccutchan
4 264
Charge what the market...
Billy Goat
12-09-2014 12:39 PM
12-14-2014 06:39 PM
by biglee
20 810
Hi from IL
steveinil
11-25-2014 02:07 PM
12-12-2014 07:18 AM
by steveinil
4 808
Utility Company Right of...
eastsidelandcare
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
12-11-2014 04:54 PM
by eastsidelandcare
0 281
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
12-11-2014 04:50 PM
by eastsidelandcare
33 4,081
suggestions on full lawn...
Brian3137
12-10-2014 07:18 PM
12-11-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
6 391
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 11:20 PM
12-11-2014 09:43 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
18 3,368
Hello from SW FL!!
5StarLawnscaping
12-05-2014 02:35 PM
12-10-2014 02:45 PM
by WesleySnips
7 626
Echo pb200 blower fuel...
googus
12-06-2014 09:03 PM
12-09-2014 06:35 PM
by Steve
3 479
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 09:36 AM
12-09-2014 06:24 PM
by Steve
36 9,807
Are you prepared for the...
Steve
12-02-2014 04:13 PM
12-09-2014 06:22 PM
by Steve
7 900
Email Address Name
Just Cuts
12-07-2014 09:49 PM
12-08-2014 03:15 PM
by Steve
3 430
Inspection form
stevef1201
12-07-2014 10:38 AM
12-08-2014 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 425
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
12-08-2014 12:37 PM
by jrs.landscaping
108 34,189
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
12-07-2014 06:35 PM
by stevef1201
24 1,706
Innovation by mandate
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 01:33 PM
12-06-2014 03:27 PM
by SGL1
12 974
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 10:07 PM
12-05-2014 11:06 AM
by Steve
9 2,260
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
12-04-2014 01:32 PM
by stevef1201
15 1,453
How many hours is too...
Just Cuts
12-04-2014 09:00 AM
12-04-2014 01:02 PM
by Just for Cuts
6 601
Does this sound like a...
googus
12-03-2014 07:47 AM
12-04-2014 12:37 PM
by Steve
5 683
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
12-04-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
14 1,226
New website
SGL1
12-02-2014 10:55 PM
12-03-2014 11:17 PM
by BLC7
19 855
Websites, how long...
Dan Tanner
03-09-2014 08:29 AM
12-03-2014 11:12 PM
by SGL1
21 3,237
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 11:04 PM
12-03-2014 10:36 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
8 1,870
GPS trackers for...
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:09 PM
12-03-2014 07:17 PM
by Steve
8 709
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
12-03-2014 06:31 PM
by SGL1
17 1,453
Hiring Subs over Temps
Billy Goat
12-02-2014 06:26 AM
12-03-2014 01:24 PM
by Steve
3 637
Thanksgiving cards
Steve
11-10-2008 11:57 AM
12-02-2014 11:11 PM
by SGL1
11 9,526
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
12-02-2014 02:17 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 1,484
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 07:13 PM
12-02-2014 08:47 AM
by SGL1
6 1,499
old contracts
bayoubandit
11-29-2014 11:10 AM
12-01-2014 11:20 AM
by Steve
3 711
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
12-01-2014 10:54 AM
by Steve
9 1,278
Lawn care truck
Steve
10-10-2009 03:40 AM
12-01-2014 10:45 AM
by Steve
32 15,182
Intuit Quickbooks...
CDLAWNCARE
11-30-2014 10:19 AM
11-30-2014 10:19 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
0 616
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 12:18 PM
11-28-2014 01:36 PM
by Just Cuts
1,196 355,735
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
09-30-2014 06:42 PM
11-28-2014 10:49 AM
by Steve
13 2,324
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying bid bob villa bush care commercial decorating deliquentaccounts demonstration ditches edging employee problems ferris first truck four wheel drive gopherhaul grass hardscapes hills hiring how much to charge how to hydraulic installation introduction landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo managing a lawn care business mulch mulch price past due patio install per hour charge podcast profit on employee reo scag v-ride scripts shell snow snow plowing sprayer starting a business starting a lawn care business start up lawn care business steve sulky toro tractor auger trailer mate pro tree truck new used landscape turfgrass consulting up sell employee walk behind won't return wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy